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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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advice please been at pod today with my mates 2wd saph and just cant get traction cus 1 wheel is spinning all the time so he's thinking about getting it welded up firstly is easy to weld up and how do you do it? and will it brake like a normal diff will once welded... he only uses it at pod no on the road really...

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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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if only 1 wheel is spinning your diff is fucked
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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thats why he suggested welding it up! I thought sum1 on here wud have welded there diff up!
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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Send a PM to JB Fletch. He knows exactly how to do it
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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Get a decent Diff SIMPLE!!!!
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:06 AM
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Im rockin a welded diff in my saph at the mo
good fun but horrible when on full lock or cornering slowly at the petrol station while your car jerks around and tyres screech whilst everyone looks at you lol
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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its not that hard to do - do a google or youtube search
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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Weld the plant & sun gears together & to the casing Easy.

But dont weld the entire hole up with the planets are as you still gotta be able to take the diff apart, you should be able to get to the circlips that hold the driveshaft bells in.

Only things that'll give up after that are the CWP & snappin drive shaft bells in half or where the pinion bolts onto the prop.

But it is a hell of alot stronger I went from breakin 28 diff's in a year to about 7 I think so you could say their 4 times as strong lol

You can see from this pic what I mean, ignor the failed CWP lol


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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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cheers jb thats a great help! is it weldable just by taking the end casing off or do you have to take the internals out aswell? looks like this is my next job... weld all the gears together and what you mean by weld the casing aswell?
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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On both of mine i just dropped the back plate off sprayed brake cleaner to clean it out then i welded the sun and planet gears and the pin the whole jon lot together and they have both taken abuse especially the 3dr 1.
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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right so basically weld everything together lol...
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
if only 1 wheel is spinning your diff is fucked
I thought one wheel wonders are the norm when it comes to open diff's?
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeshi
I thought one wheel wonders are the norm when it comes to open diff's?
they are, but the cossie doesn't have an open diff
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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If spinning one wheel and wanting to repair, it probably just needs a rerate or replace with a plated diff.

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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
they are, but the cossie doesn't have an open diff

might aswell have they never work properly
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben M
might aswell have they never work properly
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Weld the plants & suns to the diff casing. Dont weld in the centre cos if you bust anything you wont be able to take the diff apart

You can weld it in situ if you want but be sure to give it a huge clean after cos splatter from the welder could get on the CWP & damage em the second the drive the car.

Last one I did was in situ & has lasted so far (bout 6 months now)

Will try find more piccy's

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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Pic's



Dead one lol


Thought I had more pic's than that !!

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 06:56 AM
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i put a plate in there as well on mine so that the only things that could possibly break could be the pinion or crownwheel. i removed mine, drained out all the old oil, cleaned it thoroughly with brake cleaner and stuffed it full of rag to catch any spatter.


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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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just found this on google

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so literally just weld all the gears together and to the case looks nice and simple to do
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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just buy a quaife atb
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan_3
just buy a quaife atb
There's a 'slight' price difference between a Quaife, and some welding though!
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
There's a 'slight' price difference between a Quaife, and some welding though!
Also whats the point if its just going to be used on the 1/4 and no road use. £1k for the ATB or £100 for a standard one welded up, no brainer for me if i was doing straight line stuff.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Agreed, a Quaife ATB is FAR from ideal for drag racing, a welded actually has quite a few benefits.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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the car has done 800 miles in just under 2 years and thats with me running the new engine in!!! he just literally takes it for m.o.t each year and drives it to santa pod for the ford shows.....
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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I see sorry
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Old Jun 10, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
they are, but the cossie doesn't have an open diff
Sorry my mistake haha, I should pay more attention next time
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