I want to use coil on plug when i get round to doing the engine build for the jwrc fiesta and the coil on plugs i have seen on cossie's before need the rocker machining out and taping etc etc and its a fair bitt of fluffing about so put me off,

BUT.......i see these on a julian godfrey engine when i was at lydden hill watching the rally cross at the weekend and they are exactly what i am after, i will ring julian to ask him if need be and to get a price but as im not ready to buy them just yet i thought id ask on here if anybody knows what they are from?





stupidly i didnt get the part number off the sticker as i forgot

thanks Marc

 

cant help with the cop, but fuck me that engine looks impressive.
get any pics of the inlet setup?

what are the 2 ht leads on the inlet?and the 2 blu hoses that look like theyre comin off the fuel rail and going onto some sort of alloy block ontop of the plenum

 

look like Honda motorcycle ones - have a search for Denso 129700-3881 or Honda 30700-MBW-61

 

as jon has said above, looks like the cbr ones i see all the time.

 

Presume it's a balance bar off the throttle bodies so you get a common map reading (among other things) for all cylinders, not just 1

 

Have heard some nissan ones fit direct like these as well, sure it was from some micras at least.
tabetha

 

Lovin that oil filler cap :O

 

It's not a filler cap, it's welded over then machined to that finish as the engine is dry sumped,

Julian wants Ł65 a plug for these ones

 

I know it isnt a filler cap lol

 

Will grab a Cbr one tomorrow and get numbers and a price, might even be able to get you time served items

 

and me

I got this one direct from cosworth, proper dry sump version with a few other things missing as well

 

some toyota yaris ones are direct fit as been told by a few .
not sure personally ,but thats what ive heard

 

Think yaris ones have a mouting lug rather than an interference fit

 

yes the yaris ones need the castles on the head machining down and need a m6 bolt to hold them down ,

ill see if i can find a pic of my rocker

 

here you go , a pic of the yaris cop arrangement




beef

 

Marc, I'll get some number and photos of the Honda coil up soon

 

TOYOTA Yaris DENSO 90919 - 02244
Been looking at these too, you can get 4 for the price of a tuners 1

 

did you ever manage to get the honda part number etc ryan?

thanks
Marc

 

i read somewhere that the Denso 129700-3881 or Honda 30700-MBW-61 only takes a spark plug with a threaded top? is that true? as that will limit spark plug options

 

They look like 2 pin DENSO motorbike coils as found on virtually all modern bikes (there all the same) from what I've found between manufacturers.

I used them on my engine about 6 years ago and they worked OK but I changed them for a different type in the end

They are Capacitor Discharge Ignition so will require an amplifier to work correctly

I got some Magnetti Marelli ones that are inductive for Ł45 each in the end

 

I'm trying these on my 500..

 

are they the toyota cop Martin?

 

No, They're off a Honda Civic Type R.

 

I have these also on mine.

 

oopps

 

Mark/Martin - are they the inductive type so i wont need an extra direct fire/charge unit just to run them?

 

are they part number 099700-070?

And also do you know if they take a normal plug and not the threaded top plugs, i assume they accept normal kind as they are secured to the rocker cover via a bolt,

 

yes they are inductive, and they will take a std plug.

the hardest thing i found to get when i decided to use them was the multiplugs, could get the pins for the plugs, just couldnt get the actual plastic sockets. got sorted in the end though.

 

Can you run these off the weber marelli p8 running waste spark then? Or do you need a ecu with coil drivers or something?

These look similar http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-C...Q5fAccessories

 

Hi. I use the same coils on my engines.its denso from Suzuki gsx 600 motorbike

 

Only 5 years late lol im pretty sure mk has found out what cop they are by now

 

is there an advantage using the gsxr denso ones against the honda type,the gsxr version are only around Ł10 each which would make a cheap conversion

 

The gsxr type require a seperate driver unit to fire them whereas the honda Toyota units are all in 1

 

your right,looks easier and simpler to fit the the honda type

 

one other thing, what amplifier/driver is used with the denso coils if its a waisted spark system already

 

We use the denso ones because they are reliable with 3 bar of boost.
They do need mods to the cam cover and we machine the plug tops down or use Denso plugs as a cheaper alternative...
Nothing secret about what we use just ask us directly.....