bigphill25

alright im looking at gettin a hot hatch got just over £9k to spend. Want to be able to leave outside as not got anywer to store it so thats the cossies out of the pic as would want one tucked up at night lol Ive been looking at mk4 r32's, mk1 focus rs, astra vxr, vec vxr just dont know was hoping for some advice or what you would recomend

Chip

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Clio 172 cup for about 4K and keep the change

Darylc.

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Mk1 FRS, though most are more than £9K. ST maybe? I'd avoid VXR's at all costs, not just because they're vauxhallsbut because they are unreliable (so i've been told). Also they look bland.

Chip

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VXR's arent unreliable, they are good cars, but I would avoid one anyway as they desperately need a diff but dont have one.

Phil2002

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focus rs!

Darylc.

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I swear i read about someone on here who had a corsa VXR that was always broke?

SiZT

mk1 rs or meganne 225

Chip

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LMAO

So one person had a broken VXR corsa and you write off the entire VXR brand?

How the fuck can you justify saying go for an RS then?

Tank Mike

bit more than 9k but my mate has an R26 F1.

Propper propper bit of kit!

Or as Chip said, 172/182 and send the change on bettering it.

Billy_RS

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Clio 172, cracking car for the money.

Darylc.

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Not the only one, just saying I hear people slating them quite alot. Anyway, they're vauxhalls, so therefor shit

MarkyMark

one of these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-HONDA-S20...#ht_726wt_1137

Chip

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If I live to be 100 I bet I wont hear of as many broken VXR's as I know of RS's mate

Chip

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Great cars, but hardly a "hot hatch"

bigphill25

had a look and a few mk1 focus rs about for my budget. Had a look at the st's dunno bout them cant make me mind up.

Chip

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Mk1 RS is likely to hold its value better than an ST I reckon

Tank Mike

I think the mk1 RS Focus drives more like a hothatch than an ST. The ST drives like a fast Focus. The MK1 RS has more feel.

My 2p worth anyway

Oranoco

Seeing as you're in Liverpool wouldn't a tank be more suitable?

Mk1 Focus RS, Civic Type R, Seat Leon Cupra R. To be fair mate you have loads of options

Fiddy

VXR'S are a relatively new vauxhall brand chip, so the only RS you can compare them to is the Mk1 FRS, and new FRS.

If were talking older RS, you would have to compare them to GTE/GSI, and there not exactally renound for there reliabilty, porous heads, piss poor transfer boxes etc

Chip

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Ive never heard of any GTE/GSI with a piss poor transfer box, and the porous head thing is blown all out of proportion, its not a big deal at all in reality.
The XE engine from the older hot vauxhalls is amazingly reliable in the main.

Mint FRST

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Hate to slate the VXR brand but it is speak as you find. Know owners of both Corsa and Astra guise who have suffered with clutch, turbo and sterring problems.

That said still rate them especially the Corsa...

focusrrx87

think he's on about transfer boxes from let calibra's and cav's

Chip

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The boxes themselves are fine, its the owners and the supporting components that are shite

Albino Deano

I am a ford man all the way but if u want a fast and reliable hot hatch for the money u have to go for a Honda bullet proof engines, a good ek9 type r civic 1.6 180 bhp standard got a diff as standard recaros and handle like on rails very good road or track cars POWER OF DREAMS.

Fiddy

i agree, in all honesty, i love ashtray GTE valvers, had a lot of fun in them back in the day, the XE is a good engine, so is the LET. but, porous heads arnt uncommon, and cav and calibra turbo's left vauxhall 4WD, but they didnt stay that way for long. but imho, its swings and roundabouts comparing GTE/GSI to old RS, and VXR to new RS.

danneth

easy question

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1650182.htm

Ebonycossie4x4

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so that transfer box in the cavs and calibras was a well made, reliable box was it?

Ebonycossie4x4

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i honestly think astra VXRs are a terrible drive with poor handling. (I have driven 2)

problem is i have never driven a focus rs so i cant compare, have driven an ST and although it didnt feel as fast as the VXR it did feel more planted and i could throw it into the corners better.

alan12112

Focus mk2 st

Good looking
Good handling
Fast
Within your price range!

MarkyMark

too true, but feck it, its nearly summer

Slackbladder

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mate got a mini cooper S... thats good fun fun for sure...

Mike C

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Why does it have to be a hatch? Any specific reason?

smithy20vt

Not specifically a hatch but the DC5 Integra is a nice car in that price range

RichieST

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I'll agree with you on that one! The ST is a quick car, but any plonker could get behind the wheel of it and make it go quickly. FRS would be much more of a driver's car. I only chose the ST as it makes a better daily driver for what I wanted it to do!

jamesXXX

Ive got a 2006 197 clio sport, it will beat anything round the twisties, proper brakes, 24000 miles, maybe for sale if you are loooking?

Escy

My choice would be an Alfa Romeo 147 GTA. I know they aren't technically the best car out there but as a package for a road car I think they have the lot. Great engine (3.2 v6 250bhp), lovely leather interiors, look amazing, not over the top or chavvy.

I love them.

S3an

maybe not a hatchback but would be my weapon of choice for £9k

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1757837.htm

gjh

Now there's a suggestion.

nick8saff

+1

Love my focus RS but family saloon needed now. In the for sale ads if your intrested

carlos1395

since no one has said it
how about a mazda 3 mps nearly 260 bhp standard very reliable and you can get a 3 year old one for £9000