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Old 28-05-2010, 06:45 AM
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Default AP 362mm brake discs - cheapest place for new ones, or part worn / used

As title, anyone know where to get some AP 362mm brake discs for sensible money?

I'm very skint following my engine rebuild and Ring Trip all in a 3 week period, but need some new discs to keep my car on the road.

Think new they're £600 ish for a pair

Anyone know who's cheapest for them? Or has anyone got an old pair, even heavily worn pair or single disc they fancy selling me?

One of mine is cracked, so not keen on driving the car at the mo.



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Old 28-05-2010, 07:07 AM
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compbrake to replacemants at a pretty reasonable price, thats where i got my 330's from, half the price of AP's IIRC.
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Old 28-05-2010, 03:25 PM
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Kinell si there's only 2 places you need to brake on the ring
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Originally Posted by WongRS
compbrake to replacemants at a pretty reasonable price, thats where i got my 330's from, half the price of AP's IIRC.
I wouldn't touch that crap with a barge pole. It's been nearly a year and half since I sent my brake kit back to them from my last Evo. Still no refund or replacement Utter shite company. Fortunately for them their dealer (in the form of Tony NutsRus) is sound as they come.

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Will, will be on the blower to you in a few mins

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Kinell si there's only 2 places you need to brake on the ring
Yep, both from 160+ mph.... so at both places my brakes get a good roasting! Lovely big brake kit the APs, but a tad pricey!
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Originally Posted by Si B
I wouldn't touch that crap with a barge pole. It's been nearly a year and half since I sent my brake kit back to them from my last Evo. Still no refund or replacement Utter shite company. Fortunately for them their dealer (in the form of Tony NutsRus) is sound as they come.



Will, will be on the blower to you in a few mins



Yep, both from 160+ mph.... so at both places my brakes get a good roasting! Lovely big brake kit the APs, but a tad pricey!
Bugger, mine came fairly quick and seems to be doing ok at the mo, i have heard bad reports though.
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Maybe need bigger brakes ?, I know Roosie has 380mm with 6 pots ex le mans car but were still pricey.
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could try Martin or Mike Simon.
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can tony at touring cars nit help? might be worth a call or look on his site
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How old are they Si, I'm guessing they don't come under any sort of warranty then?
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Disc size and age has virtually no bearing on this , the clamping forces exerted in the varying temperature ranges of use between general road car use and trackday use is what creates these issues. Discs are consumables,expensive ones but nevertheless consumable and need changing frequently , the bigger they are the more expensive sadly .
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Si, dont buy any until you've called me!
Old 30-05-2010, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WongRS
Bugger, mine came fairly quick and seems to be doing ok at the mo, i have heard bad reports though.
Delivery if sorted by Tony is normally A1, aftersales if done by Compbrake is normally Z1 Billion, or whatever the opposite of A1 is

Powervane rotors (which were the ones Compbrake supply) are made of crap metal. On my friend's Cossie kit, using DS2500s as he normally did with his AP bells and calipers, they warped and hotspotted something cronic. Skimmed them and then used pads that I use all the time on the Evo - turned the discs into a load of metal filings that stuck to his polished wheels, and to the immaculate paint down the side of the car.

I had the same problem with their discs on my last Evo, using their "Hawk Blue" pads. Everytime I braked, you could see the sparks flying down the side of the car at night like some kind of comet / Catherine wheel

Took ages to sort the paintwork on my Evo.

And like said, the Evo brake kit I had has been back to Compbrake 3 times - split brake line that could have killed me, leaking pistons that fall out when you take the brake pads out (as if that's right ?)...

Still waiting a refund or complete replacement, and they've had them back over a year and a half. Probably 2 years now, they went back last time I was at RS Croft

I'll let you make your own mind up about them

Originally Posted by tabetha
Maybe need bigger brakes ?, I know Roosie has 380mm with 6 pots ex le mans car but were still pricey.
tabetha
I think 362mm is large enough for now, but yeah, could get 380s in there if I had too, think there's enough clearance under the wheels.

Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
could try Martin or Mike Simon.
Cheers Dave, yep Martin sorted out some AP discs and DS3000 pads for me after the Compbrake crap fooked up my good mates Cossie mentioned in the story above.

Originally Posted by Ben M
can tony at touring cars nit help? might be worth a call or look on his site
Have emailed him and had one back, just need to get some proper measurements back to him. Sadly no ex touring cars use my size, so looks like new ones are going to be needed.

Originally Posted by COCHYN
How old are they Si, I'm guessing they don't come under any sort of warranty then?
Pass on the age, but not new by any means... and they have been well hammered to be fair

I need to meaure them, nut I suspect they were coming to the end of their life minimum thickness wise anyway.

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Disc size and age has virtually no bearing on this , the clamping forces exerted in the varying temperature ranges of use between general road car use and trackday use is what creates these issues. Discs are consumables,expensive ones but nevertheless consumable and need changing frequently , the bigger they are the more expensive sadly .
Cheers for the email earlier Tony, will mail you back when I know the size / PCD info you need.

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I'll call on Tuesday Martin



On the MLR they suggested trying GGR of all places. Called them and they can do them for £420 the pair inc VAT. Much less than I feared they would be. Need to check PCD to see if the discs they use are the same as mine.

Would rather direct my money to one of the traders on here though if they can do cheap!! Was hoping someone had a tired old pair they could sell me cheap in the short term, as I don't think I can afford £420 this month
Old 30-05-2010, 10:49 PM
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Same happened to my AP discs Si - Massive crack from bell to edge, was scary stuff! They were old and had been abused so i wasn't complaining on their life span...





Tony (nuts-rs) might be one to have a word with.......
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si ill swop my scooby ( though ill fix the broken speed sensor) and ill buy you a set of discs in the deal too,,,,,,, cant say fairer than that can i,,,,,,,,, well worth a shot
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not good things from Comp brake Si.

i have heard about the cracking and warping from the AP discs too.

do most people use the AP discs?
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Originally Posted by Si B
Delivery if sorted by Tony is normally A1, aftersales if done by Compbrake is normally Z1 Billion, or whatever the opposite of A1 is

Powervane rotors (which were the ones Compbrake supply) are made of crap metal. On my friend's Cossie kit, using DS2500s as he normally did with his AP bells and calipers, they warped and hotspotted something cronic. Skimmed them and then used pads that I use all the time on the Evo - turned the discs into a load of metal filings that stuck to his polished wheels, and to the immaculate paint down the side of the car.

I had the same problem with their discs on my last Evo, using their "Hawk Blue" pads. Everytime I braked, you could see the sparks flying down the side of the car at night like some kind of comet / Catherine wheel
Nice, sounds like ds3000 behaviour! looks cool as hell, no good for your car though!
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Originally Posted by Smit
Same happened to my AP discs Si - Massive crack from bell to edge, was scary stuff! They were old and had been abused so i wasn't complaining on their life span...
Tony (nuts-rs) might be one to have a word with.......
Looks nasty Smit, not good when they go, especially when using the car hard!

Tony deals with the Compbrake stuff I'm trying to avoid, but ta for the tip off

Originally Posted by Ginge !
si ill swop my scooby ( though ill fix the broken speed sensor) and ill buy you a set of discs in the deal too,,,,,,, cant say fairer than that can i,,,,,,,,, well worth a shot
Thanks, but no ta me old mucka!

Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
not good things from Comp brake Si.

i have heard about the cracking and warping from the AP discs too.

do most people use the AP discs?
Hi Dave,

The smaller heat cracks I've seen on loads of AP discs, and lots of Evo OE Brembo discs that get used hard on track. Normally not a problem, just need to keep an eye on them. Big cracks like mine and Smit's are when the problems really start Mine had small hairline cracks since I bought the car, but has done loads of track days and 2 Ring trips without breaking. Till now!

Originally Posted by WongRS
Nice, sounds like ds3000 behaviour! looks cool as hell, no good for your car though!
Ain't that the truth! My AP kit with genuine discs and Carbotech XP10 pads has been frankly awesome, but the bills to keep the brakes A1 are a tad scary! The pads are £220 odd. So worth it when hammering around at speeds over 160 mph on the Ring



I've copied and pasted a post I put up on the MLR with the same subject:

....thanks Paul, I've virtually settled on buying new AP discs from a trader I've used a few times from the Ford world, but I'd be keen to know prices for your discs anyway.

Sadly I've been burnt with an old 6 pot kit I had on my last Evo - used Powervane rotors via Compbrake and had problems with them, so a bit hesitant to use anything other than genuine AP now.

I think this post will prove useful for other people when they come to look for brake disc options. If you don't mind, can you post your prices on here? PFC have a good reputation on here, I'm sure other readers of this post in future would consider your kits without hesitation

For reference, GGR want £420 for a pair of 362mm * 32. Speak to Andy from there, he's very helpful.

Touring Car Spares gave me a very very good price which was a genuine bargain. Tony Ryan is the man to speak to and is a very nice bloke to deal with.

Reyland Motorsport is the company I'm going to use, and he's getting the discs for a tad more than TCS, but he's been so helpful to me over the years that he's getting my business despite being slightly dearer. Customer loyalty in exchange for decent service. Martin Hadland is the gent to speak to there


Thanks everyone who's posted or PM'ed

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While pricing discs....

Who's cheapest for a pair of 330x32mm floating AP's ? 203mm PCD 12 bolt. CP3581 1130/1131

The thought of £250+vat a pop really doesnt impress me !
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
While pricing discs....

Who's cheapest for a pair of 330x32mm floating AP's ? 203mm PCD 12 bolt. CP3581 1130/1131

The thought of £250+vat a pop really doesnt impress me !
Steve, I'd give either Martin Hadland or Tony Ryan a call based on what I've found

Can anyone tell me what floating discs are all about? And whether they'd be worth going for in my application?
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Originally Posted by Si B
Steve, I'd give either Martin Hadland or Tony Ryan a call based on what I've found

Can anyone tell me what floating discs are all about? And whether they'd be worth going for in my application?
A bit like motorbikes. Basically, they should never warp, as the disc will always run true in the caliper as it isnt rigidly mounted. Or if they do warp a bit...less chance of you actually feeling it at the pedal.

But over time, both the floater bobbins and disc itself do wear....and they can rattle a bit. Or a lot.
My car is pretty noisy, and at times the rattle annoys me ! Mostly on slower roads with the window open mind.

I was considering some of the second hand discs Tony has for sale. But after speaking with the people who supplied my brakes, I think its maybe not tbe best route to take.
He has some 332x32 discs, but I'd need new bells made, and pad swept area is different too.

I'd probably just be better off buying new discs.
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