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Old 19-05-2010 | 11:43 AM
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Default Name the first 4x4 turbocharged 4 door saloon???

Had this discussion last night with my mate and we were trying to think of the first production saloon car (4 door) that was turbocharged and had 4x4???
Basically the discussion started form 4x4 saphs and other comparable cars of that era, but moved onto this.

Anyway, in my mind I'm thinking the first car in this category was a Renault 21 turbo Quadra, no idea when they came out but they must be older than a 4x4 saph??? Other contenders were Lancia delta (but wasn't that after a saph) and also Audi quattro, but it was a 3 door.
Anyway, maybe missing an obvious car from our discussion, so please feel free to discuss!
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Lancia HF4wd and Lancer Evo 1 maybe
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Good question! 21 Quadra was 90? Has to be the first of the Intergrales I would have thought.
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1979 Subaru Leone?

edit. the delta was first produced in 1987 as 4x4 and turbo, although not really a saloon

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Evo was early 90s.

HF 4WD was 1986.
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1979 Subaru Leone?

edit. the delta was first produced in 1987 as 4x4 and turbo, although not really a saloon

Think that'sa winner! 1982 for the turbo model.
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Never heard of that Subaru????
Thought all the HF turbos were FWD???
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Weren't there some really old Mitsi Lancer Turbo's too? Not sure if they were 4x4 though...
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Originally Posted by rog
Never heard of that Subaru????
Thought all the HF turbos were FWD???

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Actually Leone came with a turbo from 1985. They did a HF Turbo 4WD from 86 apparently.
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I may be wrong but im sure there is a Bently turbo R 4x4 available from 1984.

And that is a biggggg saloon!
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Originally Posted by RS LOZWORTH
I may be wrong but im sure there is a Bently turbo R 4x4 available from 1984.

And that is a biggggg saloon!
You sure it's a 4x4?
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
You sure it's a 4x4?

Ive just looked abit more into it and they did make a 4x4 turbo R except its an estate lol, never seen one on the road before but if you have a look on google images theres a few on there.
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Sure we had a 82 Audi 200 turbo that was 4x4 < even if this is correct its still not as old as the Subaru.
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Originally Posted by RS LOZWORTH
Ive just looked abit more into it and they did make a 4x4 turbo R except its an estate lol, never seen one on the road before but if you have a look on google images theres a few on there.
Isn't that the Jankel one?
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Isn't that the Jankel one?
i think it is yeah, strange looking thing looks like a hurse!
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Weren't there some really old Mitsi Lancer Turbo's too? Not sure if they were 4x4 though...
1981 that came out. RWD though.

Delta HF Turbos are FWD. HF Intergrales 4WD. Not a saloon anyway though...
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Originally Posted by RS LOZWORTH
i think it is yeah, strange looking thing looks like a hurse!
It's not a 'production' one then technically, as Jankel do crazy aftermarket conversions.
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for some reason saab came to mind..not sure about model..i'll investigate a bit
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i remember reading somewhere that the first car produced with a turbo was the oldsmobile cutless jetfire or something. it had a garret on it in 196?? 4?
no idea when the first turbo 4x4 saloon came out tho :S
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Nissan Bluebird Turbo? not sure when the 4x4's came out though, thinking 1984...
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i thought it was the old audi quattros that were used in rallying.
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Wot were Montego Turbos, 2wd???
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Saab 900.. Or Volvo 240 turbo??
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Saab 900's were fwd, I had one last year but it was a 1997 model, not sure on the classic shape though
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Originally Posted by Mike C
1981 that came out. RWD though.

Delta HF Turbos are FWD. HF Intergrales 4WD. Not a saloon anyway though...
Although there was a Delta HF 4wd before the Integrale....

As said all hatchbacks though
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bristol was probably first uk built turbo in this country,alas not 4wd........
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
i thought it was the old audi quattros that were used in rallying.
Not 4 door though. I thought Twellsie had it with the Subaru Leone, but 4x4 and turbo was available only on the pick up (Brat) and Station Wagon!

Are we allowing the Integrale, as that's technically a 5 Door.

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What about the Subaru RX? - first out 1985 (possibly 1984)
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Renault 18? i know they did a turbo version and i am sure they did a 4x4 esate version so may have done a saloon aswell
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Interesting thread.
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Originally Posted by callycat
Renault 18? i know they did a turbo version and i am sure they did a 4x4 esate version so may have done a saloon aswell
No. Turbo released in 81, and 4x4 only available in estate.
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the first audi 200 turbo quattro 10v must have been around 1986.
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lancer ex 2000 turbo was 1980 but not sure if it was 4x4,i think it was
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Originally Posted by dovboy
the first audi 200 turbo quattro 10v must have been around 1986.
1985 according to this

Originally Posted by dovboy
lancer ex 2000 turbo was 1980 but not sure if it was 4x4,i think it was
RWD.
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Oof!!

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yea thats the isma trans-am version for silouette(sp)racing in the usa.

it sounds even better than it looks if thats possible!
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Oof!!


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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Good question! 21 Quadra was 90? Has to be the first of the Intergrales I would have thought.
The first quadra was actually developed in 88 and was based on the Phase 1 versions, but it wasnt launched until the Phase 2 versions had been out for a year or so in 1990.

Audi 200 Quattros where definitely earlier as the guy I bought my first 21T off had one....I'm sure that was on a C plate.
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Audi 200 I'd say. 1985.

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