stewart84

hi im new to this, i have a mondeo mk3 2001 1.8 petrol and its slow wots the best things todo to get more power and go thank you

Oranoco

Honestly? Put a "For Sale" sign in the window and buy something else

stewart84

Car full service history and one other owner 50 thou on clock

Martin-Hadland

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Use it as a Taxi?

phil_focus

in a heavy car like the mondeo, the 1.8 is never gonna be nippy. even if you tune it you wont have the divability you'll get with a bigger engine as it just wont produce the torque!!

sell it and either buy one with a bigger engine or buy a smaller lighter car.

Oranoco

Sorry mate, I could blow smoke up your tailpipe and tell you to buy a load of bolt on stuff but it wouldn't be the right answer

Lambchop

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Get a twin turbo zet bolt on turbo with a stainless exhaust whistle and a double woppleganger stage 2 chip. They go well on that

burnzy

the usual route of k&n panel filter, de-cat and exhaust, and maybe some irridium plugs, it'd help but not alot tbh, making sure it's got good new oil and is serviced properly is also a good start as it'll make the car feel and run better.

unless money is no object then it'd be a turbo conversion and such like, but if your looking for good proformance then oranoco's advice is best

Cragrat

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First checj its insuredfor fire n theft....guess the rest mate

Honestley though bud as said above chop it in for a more performance orrientated model

Glenn_

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I would just get rid and get a V6 mondy.You could put a filter on it and a stainless exhaust but it will still be slow.

Rab

Sell it. Buy a faster car. Best bet.

Lambchop

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I'd get an st220 engine in there. Then go race some bikes!

yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

gazdon

swap it for a rs500 plus cash your way

foreigneRS

is there a bigger waste of money?

Lambchop

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You have heard of the scottish parliament?

pani_k

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I have a 1.8 focus that's quite well tuned and goes well enough but if I told you a list of mods that would guarantee some more power and torque as said above the sheer weight of the car would render the effect of every modification almost non existent. Can advise on how to get about 130-135bhp and 140ft.lbs or so of torque but still won't be much quicker at all.

Best bet is sell up and buy a ST200. I like them, good motors, got enough poke to haul around a Mondeo quick enough from day to day that's for sure.

Rab

burnzy

well for starters there only about Ł25-30 off the bay you can go into halfrauds and buy a set of normal plugs for that price, and they do work tried and tested you don't see the improvement as much in a big 4 stroke but every little helps, they do improve mpg slightly and i notice a smoother idle, and put into 2-strokes they can make a big difference as 2-strokes seem to show more improvement from small mod's like this, so i no they deffo work even if in a big 4-stroke you don't seem to notice it as much.

focusrrx87

Well a mate had mk3 1.8 mondy it had scorpion cat back decat pipe drilled air box with k&n filter and a bluefin it made 145.5bhp on the rollers good torque curve. Id recommend those mods, it Went ok But it was never what id call quick. Performance3000 do full turbo conversion, seeing as u asked what can be done to your car thought id answer it, instead of the usual passionford bullshit answer of sell your car.

RWD_cossie_wil

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Bs do they improve mpg, the Ecu will still chuck the same amount of fuel in vs airflow, all the plugs do is ignite that mixture!!

Just service it and drive it, TOTAL waste of time doing anything else to it, save your money for a better car!

pani_k

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What I would've suggested anyway had the OP asked or along them lines but just a few points to note.

1) Kerb weight of about 1600kgs means that changes will make less significance.

2) VERY Optimistic dyno readout there. Genuine 135 or so tops bhp with breathing mods and that's with a manifold change. My modification list is much more extensive than that and I have got a Dyno dynamics printout of 145.2bhp but had a little tweak of the map since then but no real power gain I don't think more response. So 145 is WAY optimistic for a 1.8.

3) ST200 are as cheap as chips nowadays anyway and will more cost effective I think by the time you mod your existing 1.8 to get 130-135bhp much more worth it to get a ST200 loads of car for the money imo.

4) Wouldn't trust Performance 3000 with a wheelbarrow never mind my car.

burnzy

whats the point of a lambda sensor then?, and how come you cossie boy's take a shine to racing plugs if "all they do is ignite the fuel", on paper yes that's all they do but the better the spark the better it ignites the mixture, meaning a slight increase in power allowing for less throttle to get the same response giving slightly better fuel consumption.

edit: taken from wiki

Modern spark-ignited combustion engines use oxygen sensors and catalytic converters in order to reduce exhaust emissions. Information on oxygen concentration is sent to the engine management computer or ECU, which adjusts the amount of fuel injected into the engine to compensate for excess air or excess fuel. The ECU attempts to maintain, on average, a certain air-fuel ratio by interpreting the information it gains from the oxygen sensor. The primary goal is a compromise between power, fuel economy, and emissions, and in most cases is achieved by an air-fuel-ratio close to stoichiometric. For spark-ignition engines (such as those that burn gasoline, as opposed to diesel), the three types of emissions modern systems are concerned with are: hydrocarbons (which are released when the fuel is not burnt completely, such as when misfiring or running rich), carbon monoxide (which is the result of running slightly rich) and NOx (which dominate when the mixture is lean). Failure of these sensors, either through normal aging, the use of leaded fuels, or fuel contaminated with silicones or silicates, for example, can lead to damage of an automobile's catalytic converter and expensive repairs.

focusrrx87

That's only 20bhp over standard the 1.8 duratech is 125bhp standard so all those mods should see 20bhp. Thought u had a focus?

pani_k

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Yeah I do mate. Still stuck in focus mode though as I forgot mondy's changed 3 years before the focus over to the duratecs .

But yes usual breathing mods apply and point 1 still stands kerb weight of 1600kgs will render bhp/tonne gain very small.

phil_focus

the mk1 focus uses the black top zetec e engine which in 1.8 form produces 115bhp and 2l form 130bhp.

focusrrx87

Was on about Mondy mate.

phil_focus

i know but from what you said it sounded like you thought the focus had the duratec in too so i was tryin to set you straight

never mind, confusion over

Luis Strachan

if youve got the money get a ko3 or ko4 turbo on it, the audi 1.8ts run a ko3 and could do 200hp, plenty aftermarket so if ur gonna go to the effort forged con rods, cams, port the head bolt on the st body kit and wheels, woul be pretty different, iv got a 1.8 and a st220 but with the 1.8 being so light on the front the more power the more wheel spin, port the head and plonk the 2l injectors in with exhaust and intake, remap 150 and call it a day!

GVK.

10 years later.

xr_craig

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Chances are most of it will have rusted away by now so it will probably be a bit quicker. Or in the bin.

jameswrx

Finally OP can get on with the build after some solid advice.

The original replies did make me laugh though, all of them were exactly what I was thinking when I read it.