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12-06-2010, 03:22 PM
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, holland seems to get on allright with it legalized but not in public apart from cafes etc so why cant this country adopt that policy and take it out of the hands of criminals??Same as america did with proabition in the 20,s
Then you get the argument it can cause side effects, so can many other things and if we believed everything we was told we wouldnt do or eat anything because it is bad for you, sick to death of being told by people what i can do with my own body as long as i aint hurting anyone else its my choice aint it??
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12-06-2010, 03:32 PM
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If Warren had seen just one room in a house with a window covered/smell etc, then I probably would have disagreed with the "grassing" (lol).
But this is more likely one of Vietnamese houses, staffed by illegals (who are the ones who always end up doing the time, not the big bosses) and are more than likely stealing the electric, and the weed would probably be sold wet and sprayed with gritty crap, so on this occasion I would have to agree with Warren.
There is a case coming to Court soon that might see ALL drugs (including beer!) either legalised or criminalised. Basically instead of arguing with the law, they are challening the application and discrimination of the law instead. Look up Edward Stratton.
BTW, Portugal legalised weed a while ago, and by all accounts the situation there seems to have got better.
But this is more likely one of Vietnamese houses, staffed by illegals (who are the ones who always end up doing the time, not the big bosses) and are more than likely stealing the electric, and the weed would probably be sold wet and sprayed with gritty crap, so on this occasion I would have to agree with Warren.
There is a case coming to Court soon that might see ALL drugs (including beer!) either legalised or criminalised. Basically instead of arguing with the law, they are challening the application and discrimination of the law instead. Look up Edward Stratton.
BTW, Portugal legalised weed a while ago, and by all accounts the situation there seems to have got better.
12-06-2010, 07:19 PM
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not checked for ages. got bored of waiting! will look when i go past on monday!!
Taking weed while suffering a mental health condition is a very bad idea phil 
I couldnt give 2 shits if some of the dealers/growers are on here. They wont do shit all and even if they were stupid enough to try, they would regret it!! I can be a nasty piece of work when i choose to be!
exactly! nothing nice about the kind of scum who mass grow weed. Its about profit and thats it. Its common to sprinkle ground glass into the buds during growing to increase the weight and hence profit. Just like all street drugs, youve no idea what you are getting!
Cant see it being legalised any time soon. Although weed is different to alcohol, most politicians and lords are too thick to know that and will just look at the alcohol problems we have and assume we'd have similar problems with everyone being stoned etc.
The only reason i can see to legalise most drugs in some way is to bankrupt the criminal gangs. Hence heroin on prescription for addicts. Medical majiuana etc.
We need some informed and unbiased research on these drugs so that a rational decision can be made on legalisation. Most research is biased either pro or against.
Just remember, under current national politcal thinking and policy making, had alcohol and tobacco been invented recently, they would both be illegal. Its only the thousands of years of mainstream use thats made them socially acceptable and hence legal by default here.
I couldnt give 2 shits if some of the dealers/growers are on here. They wont do shit all and even if they were stupid enough to try, they would regret it!! I can be a nasty piece of work when i choose to be!
But this is more likely one of Vietnamese houses, staffed by illegals (who are the ones who always end up doing the time, not the big bosses) and are more than likely stealing the electric, and the weed would probably be sold wet and sprayed with gritty crap, so on this occasion I would have to agree with Warren.
Cant see it being legalised any time soon. Although weed is different to alcohol, most politicians and lords are too thick to know that and will just look at the alcohol problems we have and assume we'd have similar problems with everyone being stoned etc.
The only reason i can see to legalise most drugs in some way is to bankrupt the criminal gangs. Hence heroin on prescription for addicts. Medical majiuana etc.
We need some informed and unbiased research on these drugs so that a rational decision can be made on legalisation. Most research is biased either pro or against.
Just remember, under current national politcal thinking and policy making, had alcohol and tobacco been invented recently, they would both be illegal. Its only the thousands of years of mainstream use thats made them socially acceptable and hence legal by default here.
12-06-2010, 07:26 PM
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Frankly, I've only registered on this forum to reply to this thread. A friend of mine, member of your forum, showed me your post warren, and couldn't speak his mind of course, considering this is a closed-minded and ignorant net community by the looks of it, and he probably would have had much trouble. I don't really care what you do with this account, ban it, delete my post, whatever, I just HAVE to speak my mind on this.
Why in God's name did you report this to the police? Do you realize you have just RUINED an INNOCENT man's life???? ( yes, INNOCENT ). Weed( marijuana, cannabis sativa, whatever) has been given to us by GOD and has been used on our planet for millenia. It has absolutely no major side effect and I won't even mention it's completely devoid of HARMFUL ones. On the other side, it kills cancer cells in patients with pulmonary cancer, it is a most natural and helpful treatment for insomnia, stress, anxiety, anger, and whatnot, and the SAFEST treatment ever discovered by modern and ancient medicine alike for chronic pain!
It has truly been made illegal a couple of decades ago by the companies producing plastics, synthetic fibers, and all this polluting crap, considering HEMP can be succesfully used in making: paper, parachutes, sacks, everything you can image. It is organic, it degrades naturally, it grows masterfully in even the most horrific of conditions, and it is CHEAP.
I work 2 jobs, raise a kid, and smoke marijuana almost every fucking day! Physical addiction is unheard of, considering I can go months without taking it if I do want to. My mother smokes and has been smoking since before I was born , is a director of a company, also works another job. All my friends smoke it, some of them with really high-paying jobs, some managers, some directors. I can truly say it has cured me of some horrific problems, including chronic insomnia I've has since childhood, acute anxiety and stress, and best of all, it has oberall made me a better, more sociable, approachable and friendly person. IT DOES THIS TO EVERYONE WHO USES IT.
And you, "my friend" have just reported a grower to the police, on the premises that he is a GROWER, thus, a criminal. No, my good man, he is A PROVIDER of a natural, centuries-old organic cure to all of us who use it and reap it's benefits. He would NOT be a " criminal " had marijuana not been illegal, which is a cartload of CRAP. Anyway, a good future is foreseen as many states in the USA are already decriminalising and legalising it. Spain, Italy, Holland have already made it an accepted plant, and many more countries are opening their eyes and their minds to the wonder that is MARIJUANA.
On the other hand, you, in your fictional ivory tower consider HEROIN a better bet for legalisation, a SYNTHETIC and HARMFUL drug responsible for the deaths of thousands around the globe. I can bet that if all those addicts have had acces to legal and plentiful marijuana from the beggining they would not be in the situation they are in now.
It is people like you, ignorant, closed-minded, unaware of the truth and believing of all the bullshit the government spoon-feeds you that promote marijuana as a "DRUG" and as a clear proponent for Illegality.
I hope that one day someone does to you the harm and injustice you have just brought upon the poor soul growing that fantastic medicine, treatment and plant, someone who in no way whatsoever has done YOU any harm, directly or indirectly, has not interfered in your life in the slightest and would not have affected you in any way, had you not gotten the sudden urge to report him to your idiot friends, the police.
Know this: I am not in any way a native speaker of english, considering I am romanian. On the other hand I seem to have better grammar and diction than you( I actually wrote all this in 7 minutes ), plus I have a complete grasp of 4 other languages. ALL THIS THANKS TO THAT SATANIC DRUG THAT IS MARIJUANA! I hope you pay for what you did to that man.... Handle this post or my account in any way you like, I just HAD to express my sincere opinion.
Best regards, Raziel.
Why in God's name did you report this to the police? Do you realize you have just RUINED an INNOCENT man's life???? ( yes, INNOCENT ). Weed( marijuana, cannabis sativa, whatever) has been given to us by GOD and has been used on our planet for millenia. It has absolutely no major side effect and I won't even mention it's completely devoid of HARMFUL ones. On the other side, it kills cancer cells in patients with pulmonary cancer, it is a most natural and helpful treatment for insomnia, stress, anxiety, anger, and whatnot, and the SAFEST treatment ever discovered by modern and ancient medicine alike for chronic pain!
It has truly been made illegal a couple of decades ago by the companies producing plastics, synthetic fibers, and all this polluting crap, considering HEMP can be succesfully used in making: paper, parachutes, sacks, everything you can image. It is organic, it degrades naturally, it grows masterfully in even the most horrific of conditions, and it is CHEAP.
I work 2 jobs, raise a kid, and smoke marijuana almost every fucking day! Physical addiction is unheard of, considering I can go months without taking it if I do want to. My mother smokes and has been smoking since before I was born , is a director of a company, also works another job. All my friends smoke it, some of them with really high-paying jobs, some managers, some directors. I can truly say it has cured me of some horrific problems, including chronic insomnia I've has since childhood, acute anxiety and stress, and best of all, it has oberall made me a better, more sociable, approachable and friendly person. IT DOES THIS TO EVERYONE WHO USES IT.
And you, "my friend" have just reported a grower to the police, on the premises that he is a GROWER, thus, a criminal. No, my good man, he is A PROVIDER of a natural, centuries-old organic cure to all of us who use it and reap it's benefits. He would NOT be a " criminal " had marijuana not been illegal, which is a cartload of CRAP. Anyway, a good future is foreseen as many states in the USA are already decriminalising and legalising it. Spain, Italy, Holland have already made it an accepted plant, and many more countries are opening their eyes and their minds to the wonder that is MARIJUANA.
On the other hand, you, in your fictional ivory tower consider HEROIN a better bet for legalisation, a SYNTHETIC and HARMFUL drug responsible for the deaths of thousands around the globe. I can bet that if all those addicts have had acces to legal and plentiful marijuana from the beggining they would not be in the situation they are in now.
It is people like you, ignorant, closed-minded, unaware of the truth and believing of all the bullshit the government spoon-feeds you that promote marijuana as a "DRUG" and as a clear proponent for Illegality.
I hope that one day someone does to you the harm and injustice you have just brought upon the poor soul growing that fantastic medicine, treatment and plant, someone who in no way whatsoever has done YOU any harm, directly or indirectly, has not interfered in your life in the slightest and would not have affected you in any way, had you not gotten the sudden urge to report him to your idiot friends, the police.
Know this: I am not in any way a native speaker of english, considering I am romanian. On the other hand I seem to have better grammar and diction than you( I actually wrote all this in 7 minutes ), plus I have a complete grasp of 4 other languages. ALL THIS THANKS TO THAT SATANIC DRUG THAT IS MARIJUANA! I hope you pay for what you did to that man.... Handle this post or my account in any way you like, I just HAD to express my sincere opinion.
Best regards, Raziel.
I also work 2 jobs have 4 kids and manage just fine without smoking this shit.
most normal people would report this to the police as i would but obviously not those who just care about there next joint.
12-06-2010, 07:53 PM
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weed smokers are far too lazy to be bothered going out robbing! even if we did the paranoia would be mental! Legalise everything and control it then its all taxed and happy and the government will have a massive ammount of extra tax coming in and we will be happy because its being taken away from the hands of criminals who probably have their finger in alsorts of things that are much worse also! problem solved! but it will never happen! the government only listen to what the public (well the press) say/want! they wont even listen to their own drug advisors who keep resigning as everything they test or find out is ignored!
Sorry rant over I know people wont agree and im totally cool with that but realistically its the only way it will work! plus with all that extra tax think how much that would help the current economic problems we are facing!
Sorry rant over I know people wont agree and im totally cool with that but realistically its the only way it will work! plus with all that extra tax think how much that would help the current economic problems we are facing!
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this has got to be the best post of the thread,our country is billions in debt.why dont the government jump on the band wagon and make some of the ŁŁ back off all the people that take drugs in this country.at the end of the day its thier choice,no 1 forces people to take them,so why let the drug barons make all the money,holland has the right idea!!1
I don't care who smokes or does what but its what it causes that creates the problem, maybe it should be legalised.
12-06-2010, 08:30 PM
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but thats down to the fucking stupid government, its ok to get smashed out of your head on beer and wreck town centres every weekend but smoke the weed and your a criminal, hypocrisy by the laws of the land at its finest, holland seems to get on allright with it legalized but not in public apart from cafes etc so why cant this country adopt that policy and take it out of the hands of criminals??
Same as america did with proabition in the 20,s
Then you get the argument it can cause side effects, so can many other things and if we believed everything we was told we wouldnt do or eat anything because it is bad for you, sick to death of being told by people what i can do with my own body as long as i aint hurting anyone else its my choice aint it??
, holland seems to get on allright with it legalized but not in public apart from cafes etc so why cant this country adopt that policy and take it out of the hands of criminals??Same as america did with proabition in the 20,s
Then you get the argument it can cause side effects, so can many other things and if we believed everything we was told we wouldnt do or eat anything because it is bad for you, sick to death of being told by people what i can do with my own body as long as i aint hurting anyone else its my choice aint it??
12-06-2010, 08:34 PM
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My brother smokes it, and it turns him into a prick.... Drugs are just crutches for weak people IMHO, very very sad so many people get addicted to it, then try to justify it.
12-06-2010, 08:44 PM
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I dont know anyone who smokes weed who doesnt work never mind rob for it and a hell of a lot of people smoke it, not just chavs who the government and tabloids would lead you to believe, their is no issue in holland why cant we do this here??
,government still believe making it illegal will stop peeps what a joke, all the taxpayers money wasted when you could legalize it and make money off it like alchohol or are you on the bandwagon that canabis is more dangerous than alchohol which is legal??
12-06-2010, 08:46 PM
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weed is not addictive which has been proved. i go months without it then enjoy a smoke for a week or two, dont believe everything you read about and people dont turn into pricks when they have a drink do they??!!
12-06-2010, 08:49 PM
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I think the point he was getting at was it doesnt effect people as much as is it thought. As in he can operate exactly the same as non smokers of the 'shit'. There is zero physical addiction so people dont really worry about there next joint fix.
12-06-2010, 08:50 PM
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Walking round an area in town and i could strongly smell weed
Bit strange as there was no one about so i did a bit of investigating and found this:
all the windows foiled and bin bagged up, one corner had started to peel and i could see a "snakes wedding" of wires on what little bit of floor i could see. And the place seems to have forced ventilation as a strong smell of weed was coming from the wall vents and the airflow seemed quite strong
I wonder how long it will be until the police raid the flat now ive reported it to the police???
Bit strange as there was no one about so i did a bit of investigating and found this:
all the windows foiled and bin bagged up, one corner had started to peel and i could see a "snakes wedding" of wires on what little bit of floor i could see. And the place seems to have forced ventilation as a strong smell of weed was coming from the wall vents and the airflow seemed quite strong I wonder how long it will be until the police raid the flat now ive reported it to the police???
lol how can anybody be that stupid ffs
well spotted mate 
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imho you should legalize it or at least have a level playing field and ban all drugs including alchohol which IS addictive and turns a lot of people into violent animals!!, not all, the same as weed affects SOME people
Why is it socially acceptable to go out and get blasted out of your head on beer but stop in and have a few bifters and your a scumbag????????
and dont give me the legal argument because i bet most people on here break the law in one way or another.
Why is it socially acceptable to go out and get blasted out of your head on beer but stop in and have a few bifters and your a scumbag????????
and dont give me the legal argument because i bet most people on here break the law in one way or another.
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12-06-2010, 09:06 PM
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ive just been reading through this and im gonna give my unbiased opinion on it. i used to smoke weed, then went on to pills and finished on cocaine. was over a period of about 7 years, i managed to stop all of that but i cannot stop smoking
weed chills you out, pills make you love everyone and sniff well good buzz but not so good listening to your heart beat 1000 times a minute at 5 in the morning lol
but any of the above with alcohol and its a completely different story, i would usualy get pissed first then get on it and thats when i would get viscious.
but the long term effects on your brain from drugs is definitely there where alcohol isnt imo. but i suppose it must affect everyone different as none of us are the same.
imo puff should be legal as theres more voilance that spurs from alcohol than puff. the government would make ŁŁŁŁŁŁ and they could regulate it.
i havnt touched any drugs for about 5 years now and i wont ever again i dont think.
cocaine ruins lives and thats a fact, but weed is no better or worse than alcohol imo.
weed chills you out, pills make you love everyone and sniff well good buzz but not so good listening to your heart beat 1000 times a minute at 5 in the morning
lolbut any of the above with alcohol and its a completely different story, i would usualy get pissed first then get on it and thats when i would get viscious.
but the long term effects on your brain from drugs is definitely there where alcohol isnt imo. but i suppose it must affect everyone different as none of us are the same.
imo puff should be legal as theres more voilance that spurs from alcohol than puff. the government would make ŁŁŁŁŁŁ and they could regulate it.
i havnt touched any drugs for about 5 years now and i wont ever again i dont think.
cocaine ruins lives and thats a fact, but weed is no better or worse than alcohol imo.
12-06-2010, 09:07 PM
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imho you should legalize it or at least have a level playing field and ban all drugs including alchohol which IS addictive and turns a lot of people into violent animals!!, not all, the same as weed affects SOME people
Why is it socially acceptable to go out and get blasted out of your head on beer but stop in and have a few bifters and your a scumbag????????
and dont give me the legal argument because i bet most people on here break the law in one way or another.
Why is it socially acceptable to go out and get blasted out of your head on beer but stop in and have a few bifters and your a scumbag????????
and dont give me the legal argument because i bet most people on here break the law in one way or another.
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12-06-2010, 09:14 PM
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, beer is not good for you, its addictive and can kill you quite easily if abused but its legal so thats ok
That is why the argument on weed cant be justified but people just ignore it, ban weed ban alchohol, would people stop drinking if it was illegal, i dont think so, alcholol would just be sold by criminal gangs, see theres a link here somewhere.
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13-06-2010, 09:52 AM
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Oh, and on the Portugese thing, sorry, it's not legal, just decriminalised. You are allowed to carry 2.5g on you.
13-06-2010, 11:20 AM
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14-06-2010, 03:22 PM
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thats the trouble people just jump on the bandwagon, i know which i would rather do, go out on the town blow god knows how much on beer, puke it up probably get in a fight and feel like shit in the morning or spend 20 squid on some weed have a laugh and get up in the morning with no sideeffects whatsoever, beer is not good for you, its addictive and can kill you quite easily if abused but its legal so thats ok
That is why the argument on weed cant be justified but people just ignore it, ban weed ban alchohol, would people stop drinking if it was illegal, i dont think so, alcholol would just be sold by criminal gangs, see theres a link here somewhere.
, beer is not good for you, its addictive and can kill you quite easily if abused but its legal so thats okThat is why the argument on weed cant be justified but people just ignore it, ban weed ban alchohol, would people stop drinking if it was illegal, i dont think so, alcholol would just be sold by criminal gangs, see theres a link here somewhere.
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Weed should be legal imo, me and a mate went up London on Sat to watch the England match!!! We had a jopint each before we got on the train, shared one at the station at the other end, quick pint, smoked 1 each before kck off, then one after the game before the train home!!
On the train home there were loads of pissed up England fans, signing songs, jumping around, banging windows, while we sat there peacefully buzzing, laughing at the fuckers!! On the train there was a few women prob aged around 45-50, they looked pretty scared, and eventually moved and sat behind us!!
Ive smoked green everyday for just over 4 years, have held done my job, (boss has never even questioned if i smoke) smoke at work when his not around, BUT i do hate goin without a smoke!! So i guess im addicted, a few years ago i lost me license and turnt into a pisshead, i no what id rather be
On the train home there were loads of pissed up England fans, signing songs, jumping around, banging windows, while we sat there peacefully buzzing, laughing at the fuckers!! On the train there was a few women prob aged around 45-50, they looked pretty scared, and eventually moved and sat behind us!!
Ive smoked green everyday for just over 4 years, have held done my job, (boss has never even questioned if i smoke) smoke at work when his not around, BUT i do hate goin without a smoke!! So i guess im addicted, a few years ago i lost me license and turnt into a pisshead, i no what id rather be
14-06-2010, 03:48 PM
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Weed effects people in different ways so it should NOT be legalized.
I have smoked it for ten years, rarely do now and I'lll openly admit I am totally different once I've had a smoke, not through choice, it just effects me that way.
I have smoked it for ten years, rarely do now and I'lll openly admit I am totally different once I've had a smoke, not through choice, it just effects me that way.
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Weed should be legal imo, me and a mate went up London on Sat to watch the England match!!! We had a jopint each before we got on the train, shared one at the station at the other end, quick pint, smoked 1 each before kck off, then one after the game before the train home!!
On the train home there were loads of pissed up England fans, signing songs, jumping around, banging windows, while we sat there peacefully buzzing, laughing at the fuckers!! On the train there was a few women prob aged around 45-50, they looked pretty scared, and eventually moved and sat behind us!!
Ive smoked green everyday for just over 4 years, have held done my job, (boss has never even questioned if i smoke) smoke at work when his not around, BUT i do hate goin without a smoke!! So i guess im addicted, a few years ago i lost me license and turnt into a pisshead, i no what id rather be
On the train home there were loads of pissed up England fans, signing songs, jumping around, banging windows, while we sat there peacefully buzzing, laughing at the fuckers!! On the train there was a few women prob aged around 45-50, they looked pretty scared, and eventually moved and sat behind us!!
Ive smoked green everyday for just over 4 years, have held done my job, (boss has never even questioned if i smoke) smoke at work when his not around, BUT i do hate goin without a smoke!! So i guess im addicted, a few years ago i lost me license and turnt into a pisshead, i no what id rather be
half the window covers are gone and its empty inside. Front door is boarded up.
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15-06-2010, 01:29 PM
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You have got some very overinflated and uneducated views on cannabis, its production, and its effects.
"John Beddington, the Chief Scientific Adviser to the UK Government stated that he agreed with the views of Professor Nutt on cannabis. When asked if he agreed whether cannabis was less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, he replied: "I think the scientific evidence is absolutely clear cut. I would agree with it."
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But there has been massive amounts of research Warren! But unless its perceived to be a vote winner the unbiased information is ignored. Professor David Nutt put his very wise cards on the table about reclassifying cannabis and the Government sacked him!!
You have got some very overinflated and uneducated views on cannabis, its production, and its effects.
"John Beddington, the Chief Scientific Adviser to the UK Government stated that he agreed with the views of Professor Nutt on cannabis. When asked if he agreed whether cannabis was less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, he replied: "I think the scientific evidence is absolutely clear cut. I would agree with it."
You have got some very overinflated and uneducated views on cannabis, its production, and its effects.
"John Beddington, the Chief Scientific Adviser to the UK Government stated that he agreed with the views of Professor Nutt on cannabis. When asked if he agreed whether cannabis was less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, he replied: "I think the scientific evidence is absolutely clear cut. I would agree with it."