I'm looking to buy a DVD player,

now it states in my TV manual that I should use the composite inputs, but disable progressive scan as the telly does it itself. (deinterlaces the image and makes it progressive scan itself)

"better then your dvd player"

what the fook do they know what type of dvd player i'm buying, i don't even know wich one yet myself.

Is this bullshit ? Is it a good or bad thing the telly does it itself and that you can't disable it on the telly, so you have to disable it on the dvd player ?
It does this on all inputs, even when watching normal cable, that difference is stunning, even my mom could see it.

 

If your telly has component inputs (usually a gree, blue and red RCA connector), then you can feed component in from the DVD player (if it has those too).

Composite it just about the worst signal you can use for video, S-video much better, then RGB/Component is best.

Unless you TV is an LCD or Plasma, it won't de-interlace nothing, CRT TV's work of an interlaced signal afaik.

Best thing to do is get the best DVD player you can afford, if it has component out, and your TV accepts it, use this connection, otherwise use RGB, then s-video. But NOT composite.

Hope this helps
Greg

 

sorry yes, it's component imputs.

Just worried bout the fact i have to disable progressive scan on the dvd player.
as the telly does it itself (lcd telly).

I'm a bit in doubt the telly does it "better" then the dvd player.

 

What is composite?

 

Joris_FRST At the end of the day, it's up to your eyes to decide which item does the conversion, your telly may have a better conversion circuit than a Ł50 DVD player, but not necessarily better than a Ł1000 player.

Thrush A video picture is made of many signals, component has all these mixed together on two wires and have to be separated again in the television. This process of joining them then splitting them reduces ultimate quality.
S-Video is slightly better as it carries the signal over four wires (I think), so not quite so much mixing/demixing.
Component/RGB carries the signal over 6 wires, so that's better still. In broadcast (e.g. BBC), they use ten wires to keep everything separate

Worst of all is the arial cable that comes from the top of your roof, that has to carry video+audio at the same time, plus no home grade equipment can encode stereo over an RF (aerial) connection so at best you would get mono if you used that.

Now, with digital it's a completely different world, we've had coax/optical digital connections for a while, it is now possible to interconnect equipment such as DVD players and projectors/plasma using digital signals, but it is very much early days and only very expensive stuff caters for that.

Look here for a better explanation http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Article...Connectors.asp phew.

Hope this helps.

 

Joris_FRST At the end of the day, it's up to your eyes to decide which item does the conversion, your telly may have a better conversion circuit than a Ł50 DVD player, but not necessarily better than a Ł1000 player.

Thrush A video picture is made of many signals, component has all these mixed together on two wires and have to be separated again in the television. This process of joining them then splitting them reduces ultimate quality.
S-Video is slightly better as it carries the signal over four wires (I think), so not quite so much mixing/demixing.
Component/RGB carries the signal over 6 wires, so that's better still. In broadcast (e.g. BBC), they use ten wires to keep everything separate

Worst of all is the arial cable that comes from the top of your roof, that has to carry video+audio at the same time, plus no home grade equipment can encode stereo over an RF (aerial) connection so at best you would get mono if you used that.

Now, with digital it's a completely different world, we've had coax/optical digital connections for a while, it is now possible to interconnect equipment such as DVD players and projectors/plasma using digital signals, but it is very much early days and only very expensive stuff caters for that.

Look here for a better explanation http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Article...Connectors.asp phew.

Hope this helps.

 

Okay, but what cable is the one known as "composite" (as in scart, RGB, etc..)

Mines connected via scart in one room, and red, white and yellow phono in another room (i know red and white are the L + R audio and yellow is the video) - never seen one connected using RGB (as in red blue and green phono's)

The DVD I have connected via scart also has the r/w/y and r/b/g, as well as digi coax audio and optical (TOS) - presume these are both outputs? Also have S-Video on the DVD, but the TV does not have an S-video in....

 

According to google results - this is composite;



I thought these were supposed to be a good connection? So is using a scart>scart better for a DVD player then?

 

Thrush,

Composite it not really a cable per say, it's a standard for transmitting video over a cable. The cable that carries the composite signal in the picture above is the yellow one, the red and white ones carry audio.

It is not a good connection from a picture quality point of view, if your DVD/TV support better then you should try and switch to something better.

As for scart-scart, again, it depends on your kit.
Scart is capable of transferring composite, s-video and RGB all in one cable (scart is actually 21 cables inside if fully wired).

If your DVD supports RGB output and your tv supports RGB input, both over scart, then this is what you should use. Audio will also be carried by the scart connection.

Otherwise, if your TV supports s-Video over scart, then you should be able to use this too.

You need to have a look at both your TV and DVD's manuals to figure out what you can or can't do.
Note: You MUST use a fully wired scart cable, some have unconnected pins

Good luck.

 

r/w/y is probably audio (red and white) + Composite (Yellow)

r/b/g is probably component out, not RGB. I would guess it reads something like Yb Yp Pb next to the connectors.

It is possible that your TV will support S-Video over scart in which case you can get a s-video to scart converter and plug the s-video in your dvd and scart in your telly to have a better picture quality than composite.

Do you think it's a minefield ???

 

I have seen the S-video/scart adapter thingies - like this you mean?



So take S-vid from DVD into that and then just normal RCA L+R (red/white) into it aswell?

How much improvent is it gonna be over scart>scart, as the pic is pretty fooking clean/clear now I'll tell ya...

 

Pants
------
Composite (Yellow Phono)
S-video (multi pin din plug or via SCART socket)
RGB (SCART SOCKET)
Component (Red, Blue & Green Phono)
Component HD (480, 720 & 1080 modes) - (same as previous)
Best
-----

That is your order of inputs crap quality to best.

Some (and only a few) very high end CRT TV's have component input, as this is normally left for decent plasma's and high end projection units.

Hope this helps.

 

Thrush,

I take it you mean to update the composite connection you have, is that where the picture is clear ?

To be honest, if you are using composite with a 14" TV, it will be clear regardless, try a 36" widescreen or more and it will be a different story altogether.

The above plug WILL ONLY WORK if your TV can accept s-video on the scart connector though, it won't convert to anything.

 

Right, the TV that has the DVD connected by a scart connection is a 28" widescreen. Picture is very clear and clean and audio seems very good. But I am always looking for better

The inputs on the back of the TV are as follows;

RF
AV Scart 1
AV scart 2
blue and green phono's

and red and white phono's out

The DVD players has the following connections;

Scart (out)
Video (yellow phono) (out)
red'n'white audio (out)

digital;
coax phono (black) out
optical (TOS) out
S-video (din) out

The TV has AV selector for AV1, AV2, and Svideo (but don't have an Svideo port on the actual TV)

 

You need to find out what the DVD can output on scart, with yours it sounds like it could do:
-RGB
-S-video (although you said you had a separate s-video out, it sort of looks like a PC keyboard/mouse connector)
-Composite

Then you need to find out what your TV can accept as input on the AV Scart 1 and 2.

S-video on your TV will probably be accepted on one or both of your scarts, your tv manual should tell you.
Likewise, your TV may accept RGB on one or both of the scarts.

So,
-if the DVD and TV support RGB, use a scart cable and connect the cable to the appropriate AV input on the TV (best option)
-If the DVD has an s-video out, use a connector like the one you found on google, and run a good quality s-video cable from the dvd to the adaptor and plug the adaptor in either AV1 or AV2 scart, depending on what your TV supports.
You will also need to run separate audio (red and white) cables from the DVD to the TV unless you are using a home cinema amp, cos svideo cables don't carry audio (not so good option).
-If the DVD has s-video out on the SCART connector, run a scart from DVD to TV AV input which supports s-video on SCART. This will carry both audio and video and is slightly worse than above because SCART cables are not usually very good (unless you pay a fortune for them).

Whatever you do, if you end up buying cables, make sure you can return them if it don't work I'd hate for you to spend money and find it makes no difference or doesn't work. Trust your eyes, not anyone's advice. As long as you're happy, that's the main thing.

Jeez - This is really difficult to explain in text, and that's not a reflection on you thrush, it should be easy but for some reason I find it difficult

 

I appreciate your trying Frog

So I think the best thing to do is leave it as normal scart>scart then.....

Whats the age old saying? If it ain't broke.......

 

LOL - nooooooooooooooo, not after all this.....






































You're right - hope you learnt something though

 

I think mine can do both ?

Component (Red, Blue & Green Phono)
Component HD (480, 720 & 1080 modes)

It's HD TV ready ?

 

Just now have to find a decent DVD player that plays Divx and comes with a nice amplifier for home cinema.

 

There's a dutch company that does dvd players that play divx, either burnt on DVD or from a PC across a network, can't remember their name though

 

Kiss ? it's swedish, but quite crappy in the reviews.
was interested in them for all the nice gadgets they have, but picture quality not so good apparantly.

 

been surfing on phillips website,

interesting things so far : LX7500 , LX8500W and LX8300SA

not too many inputs on them though, but support divx and crap.
Been reading the manual of the 8500 and progressive scan is just line doubling, so not bothered if tv does it or dvd player, and you can disable / enable it, so can disable it to let the tv do it automatically.

This shit is hard
Now have to find a more or less decent video player for the missus her old films Can connect it with the scart to the dvd player maybe ?