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Old 18-03-2010, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay_
so double standards it is then as breaking the law costs everyone money
How does my mate smoking weed cost anyone anything? How does me driving at 90mph cost anyone any money? I fail to see how any of what I've said could be construed as double standards.

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really lol im honoured please explain prey tell
Because you have offered by far the most violent suggestion for those who grass, and then stated that 'grassing' in certain circumstances is ok - plus I like winding you up and knew you'd bite
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At the end of the day, EVERY SINGLE PERSON would 'grass' in a certain situation, whether it involves a family member or friend being mugged/hurt for example, or driving without insurance, speeding, rape, drugs, murder etc etc etc. If anyone denies that they are clearly lying.

What i dont understand is some people come on here saying they would never grass, and its the lowest of the low etc etc. These people are the hypocrits and seem to be avoiding answering the questions that are put to them for that very reason. If your going to talk bollocks, then at least stick to it. You WOULD grass on someone if they mugged your mum/sister/nan and you couldnt get to them but knew who did it. Accept it, and accept that your just the same as everyone else, but the scale of what you would spill the beans for may be different to someone elses depending on how you judge it.

The end.

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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Behind their back Dave, what would doing it in front of them solve? Again, the hard macho shit is what its all about it apears!

If i knew, for example, the guy over the road always went to the boozer after work and had at least 5 pints, then drove home, onto my estate where mine and my friends kids play, risking their lives, you think it is wrong for me to make a phonecall to the police about it to get him caught? You think i should tell him, or tell the police then tell him it was me, to risk my property or families lives yet again if he decided to take revenge becasue afterall if hes a big enough prick to do what hes doing, then hes sure enough to take things further!!!!!!

I do not see how you lot who think its wrong to grass have the cheek to call those that would hypocrits!
Its not about breaking the fucking law why cant folk get their heads around that! Some of the users that cant seem to get their heads around it have suprised me!

I speed of course i do. Thats not the point. If i regulary went fast down a street where there were houses, kids etc then yeah id expect to be grassed!
I used to take E's and coke when i went out on a weekend, that affected me, no one else. If i had been going out robbing to pay for then, and someone knew and grassed, fair do's!

No one else??? total and utter bollocks!!!! just shows how ignorrant you can be when its yourself thats commiting the crime.

Where do you think the money went??

To fund the world wide habbit of even more, whether you like it or not.

How many people die each year in columbia due to drugs???


1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 thousand easy.


But hey it didnt effect anybody but you thats right
Old 18-03-2010, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Behind their back Dave, what would doing it in front of them solve? Again, the hard macho shit is what its all about it apears!

If i knew, for example, the guy over the road always went to the boozer after work and had at least 5 pints, then drove home, onto my estate where mine and my friends kids play, risking their lives, you think it is wrong for me to make a phonecall to the police about it to get him caught? You think i should tell him, or tell the police then tell him it was me, to risk my property or families lives yet again if he decided to take revenge becasue afterall if hes a big enough prick to do what hes doing, then hes sure enough to take things further!!!!!!

I do not see how you lot who think its wrong to grass have the cheek to call those that would hypocrits!
Its not about breaking the fucking law why cant folk get their heads around that! Some of the users that cant seem to get their heads around it have suprised me!

I speed of course i do. Thats not the point. If i regulary went fast down a street where there were houses, kids etc then yeah id expect to be grassed!
I used to take E's and coke when i went out on a weekend, that affected me, no one else. If i had been going out robbing to pay for then, and someone knew and grassed, fair do's!
so what your saying is you will be held accountable so at least fair play lee but the way people bang on is comical ! uninsured drivers cost them money so does any sort of crime but they dont mind drugs ect because recreational so when there dealer get locked up who pays that bill
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Originally Posted by Jay_
so what your saying is you will be held accountable so at least fair play lee but the way people bang on is comical ! uninsured drivers cost them money so does any sort of crime but they dont mind drugs ect because recreational so when there dealer get locked up who pays that bill

My point totally mate, dont throw stones out glass houses
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
How does my mate smoking weed cost anyone anything? How does me driving at 90mph cost anyone any money? I fail to see how any of what I've said could be construed as double standards.



Because you have offered by far the most violent suggestion for those who grass, and then stated that 'grassing' in certain circumstances is ok - plus I like winding you up and knew you'd bite
dude i havnt bit at anything just chewing the fat as for violence ask neil what im guna do to you at central day
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
Me and my half dead nan would have better chance catching them than the so-called police!!

And probably do more justice
Ha, fair point.

Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
but they happilly forget the damage their mates are doing by buying drugs from dealers as its not in total connection with them, but in the real world it costs them 100 times more than non insured drivers
How? How does my mate buying drugs off the local dealer cost 100 times more than uninsured drivers? The only time it costs me money is if I score from him (not that I'd do such a naughty thing)

Originally Posted by S1rst
At the end of the day, EVERY SINGLE PERSON would 'grass' in a certain situation, whether it involves a family member or friend being mugged/hurt for example, or driving without insurance, speeding, rape, drugs, murder etc etc etc. If anyone denies that they are clearly lying.

What i dont understand is some people come on here saying they would never grass, and its the lowest of the low etc etc. These people are the hypocrits and seem to be avoiding answering the questions that are put to them for that very reason. If your going to talk bollocks, then at least stick to it. You WOULD grass on someone if they mugged your mum/sister/nan and you couldnt get to them but knew who did it. Accept it, and accept that your just the same as everyone else, but the scale of what you would spill the beans for may be different to someone elses depending on how you judge it.

The end.
I think that is utterly well said, at the heart of the issue - We'd ALL grass, just some more easily than others.
Old 18-03-2010, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Depends. If I thought there could be repercussions that would affect my family in any way then I wouldn't grass.

It also depends on the issue. If it was a guy I worked with for example, I'd give them a chance to get insurance and tell them to their face that they need to sort it out. I wouldn't see the point in sneaking behind their back.
I agree with Dan. I think it is perfectly acceptable to tell the Police about someone who is doing something they really shouldn't. I can say this, because I don't do the things that shouldn't be done! Drinking and driving can kill someone. If you drive uninsured, and kill someone or put them in a wheel chair, who pays for it...!?! It's a v serious matter, not like doing 85 on the motorway which we all do.
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Originally Posted by Jay_
dude i havnt bit at anything just chewing the fat as for violence ask neil what im guna do to you at central day
Just don't hit the face And if you do, I'll grass you up!
Old 18-03-2010, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Just don't hit the face And if you do, I'll grass you up!
ill hand you dialled mobile just before you go to sleep

only joking i have a better idea well neil found it funny
Old 18-03-2010, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord



I think that is utterly well said, at the heart of the issue - We'd ALL grass, just some more easily than others.

EXACTLY mate!!


Old 18-03-2010, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA
No one else??? total and utter bollocks!!!! just shows how ignorrant you can be when its yourself thats commiting the crime.

Where do you think the money went??

To fund the world wide habbit of even more, whether you like it or not.

How many people die each year in columbia due to drugs???


1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 thousand easy.


But hey it didnt effect anybody but you thats right
You could go on about where the money goes with everything you buy. Its not about the money and ive never once said it is! Its principal, but generally it will involve money, doesnt everything.

Its like grassing the benifit theif who has nothiong wrong with him yet gets ŁŁŁ per week! My Dad had to constantly have check ups to see if he could stay on disablility allowance and was 100% genuine! Yet some folk only use crutches to go to the doc for checkup, then theyre off doing 18 holes at the weekend with out a bugy etc! Cunts. Its principal but you could relate it to money as thats what the issue is over!

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Old 18-03-2010, 09:34 PM
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I see this topic has gone well.............
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[quote=Lee Reynolds;4799161]You could go on about where the money goes with everything you buy. Its not about the money and ive never once said it is![/quote]



Did i say you personally have??


It was the general attitude from all the "happy grasses"
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Originally Posted by Rab
I see this topic has gone well.............
It's been a very stimulating debate! Obviously I'm correct, and pretty much everyone else (especially Jay) is wrong, so I'd say it has gone very well!
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Originally Posted by NUTTIN RILLA

Did i say you personally have??

It was the general attitude from all the "happy grasses"
It's just you and Jay who have been going on about the costs of recreational drugs though?

I personally don't see how soft drugs cost society anywhere near the same as uninsured drivers. I'm happy to be proved wrong, and maybe I'm being naive, but not all drug use involves Mr Big, cartels, and multi-million pound transactions.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
It's been a very stimulating debate! Obviously I'm correct, and pretty much everyone else (especially Jay) is wrong, so I'd say it has gone very well!

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I cant beleive the snitches that has been revealed!!!!

Guys on here be VERY careful what you say...and dont ever say you fucked a 13 year old when 17 ROFL!!!! opps
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Dan,

your not bothered about recreational drugs, but what if they then got in a car and driven it etc....drink driving etc...would you grass then.

i have grown up in a place where grassing people up is looked down on,everyone sorts things out themselves, no matter what it is.

you are either a law abiding citizen or your not...thats it.
When I was a lad, if I grassed on my family for the things they did, I'd be home alone and visiting them all once monthly. I kept my gob shut because I wanted my food on the table mainly.

That's kind of a joke before you all rush to the telephone. Damn 999 would be engaged with you lot...

Benni.
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Originally Posted by Ima Racing
I cant beleive the snitches that has been revealed!!!!

Guys on here be VERY careful what you say...and dont ever say you fucked a 13 year old when 17 ROFL!!!! opps
Whats your address again Phil, want to send a cheque for that fuel pump!
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
It's just you and Jay who have been going on about the costs of recreational drugs though?

I personally don't see how soft drugs cost society anywhere near the same as uninsured drivers. I'm happy to be proved wrong, and maybe I'm being naive, but not all drug use involves Mr Big, cartels, and multi-million pound transactions.
so soft drug dealers as you put it dont go to prison then at tax payers expense ohh and lets not forget the scrote stealing your stereo to sell for gange as he cant afford it as his car insurance is to expensive

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Dan,

its not the cost/money etc...its the crime.....as peeps have said.

if you don't see how drugs, soft or not,as they ALL start with soft drugs,is anywhere the same as uninsured drivers...why....wrong is wrong.

what if they got in a car and drove it....thats more dangerous than no insurance is it not.
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Originally Posted by Jay_
so soft drug dealers as you put it dont go to prison then at tax payers expense ohh and lets not forget the scrote stealing your stereo to sell to but gange as he cant afford it as his car insurance is to expensive
Then legalise soft drugs - and grass up the stereo thief to the cops - Job done!
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Dan,

its not the cost/money etc...its the crime.....as peeps have said.

if you don't see how drugs, soft or not,as they ALL start with soft drugs,is anywhere the same as uninsured drivers...why....wrong is wrong.

what if they got in a car and drove it....thats more dangerous than no insurance is it not.
You're having a different argument Dave. You see wrong as wrong, but I see gradations of wrong. I don't condone any kind of inebriated driving, and I don't buy into the silly 'soft drugs are a gateway to hard ones' nonsense.

I don't really see the point you're trying to make to be perfectly honest.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Then legalise soft drugs - and grass up the stereo thief to the cops - Job done!
or stop taking drug that will inevitably cost our nhs money in the long run then the deal will get a job stacking tins in morrisons and the stereo thief wont need your stereo as theex drug dealer says no to drugs
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I reckon someone should do a new post:

" How do i avoid the snitches whilst 39 drunk driving in my glass house puffing on endo with a 14 year old bitch"

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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
How does my mate smoking weed cost anyone anything? How does me driving at 90mph cost anyone any money? I fail to see how any of what I've said could be construed as double standards.



every whole saled drug earns people money so your line of coke or hash to heroin funds people like terrorists so all the thousands of soft drugy user's buying there little bit of harmless shit help fund people like this
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1141351.html

which make a few percent on your insurance look pathetic
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Originally Posted by Jay_
every whole saled drug earns people money so your line of coke or hash to heroin funds people like terrorists so all the thousands of soft drugy user's buying there little bit of harmless shit help fund people like this
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1141351.html

which make a few percent on your insurance look pathetic
Are you genuinely saying that by smoking weed I'm funding terrorism??
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yes little by little your funding alsorts including crime ! imagine you and ur little homies each week paying for your little score soon mounts up into a nice cash pile well done
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Originally Posted by Jay_
yes little by little your funding alsorts including crime ! imagine you and ur little homies each week paying for your little score soon mounts up into a nice cash pile well done
I'm calling the Police...

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Originally Posted by Jay_
yes little by little your funding alsorts including crime ! imagine you and ur little homies each week paying for your little score soon mounts up into a nice cash pile well done
Nice moral high-ground there Jay. Shame it's not true.
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Originally Posted by Jay_
all this i pay extra blah blah blah is fuckin comical as there are a element that will always drive without insurance it been done since the law was introduced so to a degree you will always pay a small percentage and insurance extra for insurance to maintain profit . So either dont pay it or get the fuckin bus
there was no MIB in the beginning, so there were no payments made because of uninsured drivers, and therefore no extra charge on the rest of us
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
How does me driving at 90mph cost anyone any money? I fail to see how any of what I've said could be construed as double standards.
theory says that if nobody ever exceeded the speed limit, yourself included, there would be no need to have spent taxpayers (other people's as well as yours) money on speed cameras
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
theory says that if nobody ever exceeded the speed limit, yourself included, there would be no need to have spent taxpayers (other people's as well as yours) money on speed cameras
Speed cameras are self funding. The irony is that they only exist to pay for themselves.

Plus only 5% of all injury accidents occur over the posted speed limit, so speed cameras can do nothing to combat 95% of accidents, meaning they're largely useless and a waste of money - but that's a different soap box!
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Nice moral high-ground there Jay. Shame it's not true.
Are you sure about that mate?

I love all the "I would never grass, I hate grassers " etc. Fine, but as has been mentioned, there is a line that if crossed then this changes. Just have the balls to say so.

IMHO there is no such thing as honour amongst thieves and people will give info on anyone IF it will help them.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
How does my mate smoking weed cost anyone anything?
Well given the increased chance of your mate developing a mental illness that the state ends up having to treat, its a bit like the odds of someone driving uninsured having an accident that costs the system money to pay for the damage they do surely?
Like uninsured drivers many people who smoke weed wont cost anyone a penny, but like uninsured drivers there is a chance they will, at least with alcohol or tobacco for example you pay the state a premium that goes towards paying for the damage it might cause you to do to yourself, hell even mcdonalds has tax attached to it, with weed you arent paying any tax premium at all to insure against the potential cost so you would have to be pretty silly not to realise that on average it costs the state, am amazed someone fairly bright such as yourself would miss something so glaringly obvious.

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Please remove your tongue from his arse and fuck off. No one cares about your opinion.

you obviously did care enough to comment you stupid muggy cunt. Fuck off

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Originally Posted by arch
Are you sure about that mate?
Yes. I'm quite sure the drugs my social group partakes in has absolutely nothing to do with the arms trade, terrorists, or the Triad.

Originally Posted by arch
I love all the "I would never grass, I hate grassers " etc. Fine, but as has been mentioned, there is a line that if crossed then this changes. Just have the balls to say so.
I have repeatedly said that I would grass in certain circumstances. It's the billy-big-bollocks wannabee gangsters on here that have said they'd never grass.

Originally Posted by Chip
Well given the increased chance of your mate developing a mental illness that the state ends up having to treat, its a bit like the odds of someone driving uninsured having an accident that costs the system money to pay for the damage they do surely?
Like uninsured drivers many people who smoke weed wont cost anyone a penny, but like uninsured drivers there is a chance they will, at least with alcohol or tobacco for example you pay the state a premium that goes towards paying for the damage it might cause you to do to yourself, hell even mcdonalds has tax attached to it, with weed you arent paying any tax premium at all to insure against the potential cost so you would have to be pretty silly not to realise that on average it costs the state, am amazed someone fairly bright such as yourself would miss something so glaringly obvious.
The chances of him/them developing a mental illness are virtually non-existent. As you're well aware the danger zone is for those in their early to mid teens. The risk of developing mental illness in later life because of cannabis is virtually zero, unless you're already a bit unhinged and you live off the stuff. All my friends who partake in the herb have decent jobs and contribute handsomely to the system that would take care of them should the need arise. There are obviously individuals who will need state care as a direct result of smoking cannabis, but to me that's a separate issue to the one in discussion.

Having said that, although I can see your point, unless you can show me how much actual weed costs the state each year in medical bills I'm inclined to stand by my (stubborn, and probably a bit ignorant) viewpoint. The fact of the matter is that no-one knows, so it's not really as "glaringly obvious" as you suggest. What we do know is that cigarettes are directly responsible for 80,000 deaths per year, and that alcohol causes getting on for 30,000 per year so it's utterly fair that a large slice of the revenue from their sale should be taxed. How much does actual cannabis cost the state each year? I've no idea, but I do know that it would cost the state a hell of a lot less if they legalised it!

I'm still at a loss as to why a thread about shopping someone in for no insurance has become a Zamo McGuire 'just say no' thread?

Throughout this whole thread I still stand by my original comments, and I can't see how anyone can read post number 81 and not, at very least, understand my viewpoint.

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Old 19-03-2010, 10:24 AM
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Has the thread starter actually shopped the guy who he thinks has no insurance yet?
Old 19-03-2010, 01:51 PM
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Given the replies..hes probbaly bottled it and is now paying for the guys insurance himself in fear of a kicking for telling the truth


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