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Old 12-03-2010, 05:42 PM
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Fitted a new phase sensor and the car is still violently holding back and back firing like hell sounds like an automatic shot gun going offs (sounds good) when you put your foot down just after 3k revs it jolts,cuts out and back fires like mad what else could be cusing this. now i know i have a dodgy lamba sensor frayed wires etc. but surely that cant be causing this crap to happen?? crank sensor maybe??? any info would be great thanks. also the spark plugs are choked to hell.

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Whats your rev counter doing when this occurs? Does it bounce about between zero and the RPM the fault starts at?
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Originally Posted by Graceland
Whats your rev counter doing when this occurs? Does it bounce about between zero and the RPM the fault starts at?
no mate it bounces when it cuts out,just once. someone else said about the bouncing, i'll double check tomorrow but i dont think it does that.
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check your crank sensor and associated wiring plug and also ensure your phase sensor is plugged in the right way round
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Check crank sensor condition (wiring where it enters the sensor is common to perish) and check gap is 0.8mm.

Also, if the car has a knock sensor, check that the knock sensor and phase sensor plugs are the right way round!
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Originally Posted by Will Pedley
Check crank sensor condition (wiring where it enters the sensor is common to perish) and check gap is 0.8mm.

Also, if the car has a knock sensor, check that the knock sensor and phase sensor plugs are the right way round!
would it still be possible to drive it and start it if they where the wrong way round???
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could it be an air leak?
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I'd start by fixing the things you know are wrong first like the lambda wiring, the cps gap only needs to be near enough, will work outisde these limts to an extent.
I would pay particular attention to the cps connector on the loom side.
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have u checked to make sure all the crank lugs are in good condition ie no chunks missing?!
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Originally Posted by Toe Knee
have u checked to make sure all the crank lugs are in good condition ie no chunks missing?!
lugs are still there,
would you say change the crank sensor anyway for a new one? need it running right to travel up to oxford then on to MAD for a setup. could the lambda cause it to fcuk up like this?
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CPS or phase sensor wiring

has it only just started happening?

edit: check the pipes to map sensor
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Car will start and run (badly) with phase/knock the wrong way round.

To dismiss the lambda from the equation you can unplug it. I've never known one to cause the symptoms you describe though.

Normally a violent hesitation/holding back is crank/phase related.

If you crank sensor is the original white wire one then i'd definitely change it just as routine maintenance.
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Originally Posted by Will Pedley
Car will start and run (badly) with phase/knock the wrong way round.

To dismiss the lambda from the equation you can unplug it. I've never known one to cause the symptoms you describe though.

Normally a violent hesitation/holding back is crank/phase related.

If you crank sensor is the original white wire one then i'd definitely change it just as routine maintenance.
my crank sensor is the original white one. about time it was changed then.lol.
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Originally Posted by OrionRST200bhp
my crank sensor is the original white one. about time it was changed then.lol.
That was the one that was put on from new then

How many years old?
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Does the rev counter jump around when this happens ?
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Originally Posted by Will Pedley
That was the one that was put on from new then

How many years old?
the car is a J reg 91 hahaha, change it then.
Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor.
Does the rev counter jump around when this happens ?
no mate stays just under 1k revs
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