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Old 11-03-2010, 05:39 PM
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Default Who makes the best diesel engine?

Looking to get a dieseal car for workies....

Who makes the best one power wise?

Every diesel I've driven has nothing to offer.

Any good v6 diesels out there?
Old 11-03-2010, 05:40 PM
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golf gt tdi with a remap; awesome
Old 11-03-2010, 05:42 PM
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probably bmw.. 335d

that said,, VW do that V10 or V12 Diesel Toureg dont they, that must have some twist!
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I was thinking about the bora 130 remapped
Old 11-03-2010, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DHMC
I was thinking about the bora 130 remapped

go and drive a mapped 535d/335d let me know what you think to the bora then
Old 11-03-2010, 05:53 PM
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BMW, they have won awards i think for their 3ltr dervs both single turbo and two turbo veriants.
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toyota do a very good deisel engine in my opinion, the D-4D drove and evensis at work last year with one and bugger me it was tourqy! and they are above average on the economy side
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BMW diesels are good

Jaguar diesels are fecking good as well
Old 11-03-2010, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DHMC
I was thinking about the bora 130 remapped
Great choice

Evo chips remap made so much difference. I sometimes drive exactly the same spec car but standard and it feels so flat compared to mine.
Old 11-03-2010, 06:52 PM
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a guy is famous on the net for raving about his 335d, iicr i think it was mapped.
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get a 335d mapped

the dark side (vauxhall) do a v6 vecta one
Old 11-03-2010, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
BMW diesels are good

Jaguar diesels are fecking good as well
jag diesels are fords and the ford diesel is a cracking engine
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:07 PM
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BMW.... any of them!

bigger the better

Audi V12 is a monster as well... the one in the big Q7...


oh and this!

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i own 530d and its superb although for performance i drove an audi a8 4.2 tdi quattro and was blown away by how fast that diesel car could hustle.
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Originally Posted by Rs Gary
jag diesels are fords and the ford diesel is a cracking engine
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What ford does the three litre twin turbo jag engine come from?

Its up there with the best of the other manufacturers thats for sure

( edit i see its part of the PSA thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17 )

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In fact i'd say the jag diesel in the xf is rated as best in class from what i've read, and this seems to back it up

http://www.jaguar-enthusiasts.org.uk/aj-v6d-gen3.html
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jag emissions aren't as good as the BM though if you're thinking about running costs.
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Originally Posted by Rick
jag emissions aren't as good as the BM though if you're thinking about running costs.

BMW I have 217g/kg on a 535d and 40.4 mpg

For the Jag I have 179g/kg and 44mpg

Also the jag is significantly more powerful....
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
What ford does the three litre twin turbo jag engine come from?

Its up there with the best of the other manufacturers thats for sure

( edit i see its part of the PSA thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17 )
that engine is their new one and its a peugeot citreon engine,the smaller ones are ford engines from the mondeo mr mondeo man
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:39 PM
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My 330d BMW was a superb engine and even sounded good.......

Also had a 130bhp TDi Passat.....good engine and nice to drive
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
BMW I have 217g/kg on a 535d and 40.4 mpg

For the Jag I have 179g/kg and 44mpg

Also the jag is significantly more powerful....

which jag? i thought they were 270bhp???
Old 11-03-2010, 07:48 PM
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volvos d5 engine is very good. super smooth although not so powerful for its size.
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Originally Posted by Rs Gary
that engine is their new one and its a peugeot citreon engine,the smaller ones are ford engines from the mondeo mr mondeo man
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PSA supply the smaller engines and ford supply the bigger engines. anything above a 2.2litre is a ford engine.
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Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor.
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I thought the same when i saw the title too!
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Originally Posted by danneth
which jag? i thought they were 270bhp???

Not peak power, area under the curve


The Jag XF Diesel S is 0-60 in 5.9s
BMW 535d sport is 0-60 in 6.4s

The Jag is cheaper, less CO2 and does more MPG and is faster.
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Originally Posted by Rs Gary
that engine is their new one and its a peugeot citreon engine,the smaller ones are ford engines from the mondeo mr mondeo man
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Oh lol

The smaller engines ( 4pot ) are PSA and the Ford ones are the bigger ones.......so you couldnt be more wrong

As I was alluding to, its a shame the fantastic 3.0 twin turbo diesel isnt showcased in a Ford model.
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
Not peak power, area under the curve


The Jag XF Diesel S is 0-60 in 5.9s
BMW 535d sport is 0-60 in 6.4s

The Jag is cheaper, less CO2 and does more MPG and is faster.

ahh your on about the 2010 one as the others are no where near the 535d? as for the 2010 version i think you will find there both Ł44k OTR as new? jag is not faster its a tad slower but hardly anything in it and think theres about 6mpg between them
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what do you want to use it for though?

and what budget?

if it's for pimping then the audi q7v12d is about Ł90k at one end of the scale whereas you could possibly pick up a mondeo sttdci for around Ł6k

the beemers got 3 different engines as far as i'm aware, the older 2.9, the newer 3.0 and then the twin turbo'd 3.0

but if you are doing motorway miles and just want economy then the little audi lumps are cracking, i've seen 83 mpg out of one on a run
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mondeo st deisels have a nice grunt to them and are quick aswell just remap it to 300lb of torque and 200 bhp
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Originally Posted by Porkie
BMW.... any of them!

bigger the better

Audi V12 is a monster as well... the one in the big Q7...


oh and this!


Now that would be an awesome motor for work lol




On a serious note it all depends what you got to spend !!
Old 12-03-2010, 08:51 AM
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Surely the first question should be what are you looking to spend!? 8k? 2k 40k ???

I'm really tempted by a leon cupra tdi.
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as above budget is a big factor here - what are you looking to spend?

I had around 6.5k so went for the mondeo st tdci - great car/engine combo

Plus it could be for sale if your looking???
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