Why do i buy fords!!!!! Wish i bought the golf!
27-02-2010, 05:56 PM
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Why do i buy fords!!!!! Wish i bought the golf!
So as many will know I was about to leave fords all together.
Decided to bite the bullet and stick with fords and picked up a mondeo bought it last night - headgasket went an hour later and now I'm fucked!
Car's got oil in the water and creamy in the dip stick equals to me head gasket its only firing off 3 cylinders aswell.
Man fords well piss me off...
Forth mondeo gone on me
Decided to bite the bullet and stick with fords and picked up a mondeo bought it last night - headgasket went an hour later and now I'm fucked!
Car's got oil in the water and creamy in the dip stick equals to me head gasket its only firing off 3 cylinders aswell.
Man fords well piss me off...
Forth mondeo gone on me
27-02-2010, 06:45 PM
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ive had loads of fords and they have been ok. I had a few silly problems with my cossie but thats a old car. why be boring and buy a golf. I know a lad who worked on vw and he said they arnt as good as everyone thinks.
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27-02-2010, 07:35 PM
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previouse owner *could* claim that he thrapped all the way home from cold, although i do believe under the sale of goods act it has to be fit for the purpose it was bought for, as theres no such thing as sold as seen, this way inocent buyers are still protected.
27-02-2010, 07:44 PM
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When dealing with, or as, a consumer, the phrase sold as seen is effectively meaningless. The term sold as seen can only be applied in a reasonable manner and can only apply to the way the goods look: something that can easily be seen on a visual inspection. If one takes the example of a car, advertised for sale as sold as seen, the exclusion on liability can only apply to external features, such as scratched or damaged bodywork. It is not reasonable to expect a faulty exhaust or clutch to be picked up on the basis of a visual examination.
The problem for sellers, and the benefit for buyers, is the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). The Sale of Goods Act 1979 provides buyers with various rights, which state that the goods must be:
as described
fit for their purpose
of satisfactory quality
When a consumer buys from a business their legal rights under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 cannot be taken away or reduced. This is what the phrase sold as seen seeks to do.
Any warranty or guarantee can only be given in addition to their legal rights, not instead of them.
Furthermore, using the term sold as seen in these circumstances may also be a criminal offence under the Consumer Transactions (Restrictions on Statements) Order. It could be seen as an attempt to restrict a consumers legal rights. If a business wishes to use any disclaimers, either in contracts or in signs on their premises, it is best to seek legal advice or speak to trading standards first.
Sale and Supply of Goods Act - If you sell something, whether new or second-hand, it should be of satisfactory quality and fit for its ordinary everyday purpose. It should also be as you describe it.
27-02-2010, 07:52 PM
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as said not quite true.
When dealing with, or as, a consumer, the phrase sold as seen is effectively meaningless. The term sold as seen can only be applied in a reasonable manner and can only apply to the way the goods look: something that can easily be seen on a visual inspection. If one takes the example of a car, advertised for sale as sold as seen, the exclusion on liability can only apply to external features, such as scratched or damaged bodywork. It is not reasonable to expect a faulty exhaust or clutch to be picked up on the basis of a visual examination.
The problem for sellers, and the benefit for buyers, is the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). The Sale of Goods Act 1979 provides buyers with various rights, which state that the goods must be:
as described
fit for their purpose
of satisfactory quality
When a consumer buys from a business their legal rights under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 cannot be taken away or reduced. This is what the phrase sold as seen seeks to do.
Any warranty or guarantee can only be given in addition to their legal rights, not instead of them.
Furthermore, using the term sold as seen in these circumstances may also be a criminal offence under the Consumer Transactions (Restrictions on Statements) Order. It could be seen as an attempt to restrict a consumers legal rights. If a business wishes to use any disclaimers, either in contracts or in signs on their premises, it is best to seek legal advice or speak to trading standards first.
Sale and Supply of Goods Act - If you sell something, whether new or second-hand, it should be of satisfactory quality and fit for its ordinary everyday purpose. It should also be as you describe it.
When dealing with, or as, a consumer, the phrase sold as seen is effectively meaningless. The term sold as seen can only be applied in a reasonable manner and can only apply to the way the goods look: something that can easily be seen on a visual inspection. If one takes the example of a car, advertised for sale as sold as seen, the exclusion on liability can only apply to external features, such as scratched or damaged bodywork. It is not reasonable to expect a faulty exhaust or clutch to be picked up on the basis of a visual examination.
The problem for sellers, and the benefit for buyers, is the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). The Sale of Goods Act 1979 provides buyers with various rights, which state that the goods must be:
as described
fit for their purpose
of satisfactory quality
When a consumer buys from a business their legal rights under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 cannot be taken away or reduced. This is what the phrase sold as seen seeks to do.
Any warranty or guarantee can only be given in addition to their legal rights, not instead of them.
Furthermore, using the term sold as seen in these circumstances may also be a criminal offence under the Consumer Transactions (Restrictions on Statements) Order. It could be seen as an attempt to restrict a consumers legal rights. If a business wishes to use any disclaimers, either in contracts or in signs on their premises, it is best to seek legal advice or speak to trading standards first.
Sale and Supply of Goods Act - If you sell something, whether new or second-hand, it should be of satisfactory quality and fit for its ordinary everyday purpose. It should also be as you describe it.
27-02-2010, 07:58 PM
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Thats why i posted it here to try and help the fella out, but on the other side of the coin, the buyer could be told simply just to feck off as the seller probably wouldnt know this, like you said.
its easier to fix the head gasket TBH than go down the legal route in anycase, less hassle and cheaper.
its easier to fix the head gasket TBH than go down the legal route in anycase, less hassle and cheaper.
28-02-2010, 09:50 AM
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You must buy some sheds!
A friend of mine got sick of her rs turbo so swapped it for a golf. The golf has it's own parking space at the garage and they're on first name terms.
A friend of mine got sick of her rs turbo so swapped it for a golf. The golf has it's own parking space at the garage and they're on first name terms.
01-03-2010, 09:56 AM
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Got some legals on it. Sent him some of the above info and will see what happens.
Gonna get his details and see if I can find him on facebook
Gonna get his details and see if I can find him on facebook
01-03-2010, 10:11 AM
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As a private sale you've little comeback (despite the sale of goods act). You can however return the car if it's not 'as described'. If in his advert it refers to it being in "good working order", or "drives really well" or anything like that, then it's a lie and you're within your rights to take it back and get a full refund.
Did you check for signs of a HG problem when you bought the car?
Did you check for signs of a HG problem when you bought the car?
01-03-2010, 10:16 AM
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as said not quite true.
When dealing with, or as, a consumer, the phrase sold as seen is effectively meaningless. The term sold as seen can only be applied in a reasonable manner and can only apply to the way the goods look: something that can easily be seen on a visual inspection. If one takes the example of a car, advertised for sale as sold as seen, the exclusion on liability can only apply to external features, such as scratched or damaged bodywork. It is not reasonable to expect a faulty exhaust or clutch to be picked up on the basis of a visual examination.
The problem for sellers, and the benefit for buyers, is the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). The Sale of Goods Act 1979 provides buyers with various rights, which state that the goods must be:
as described
fit for their purpose
of satisfactory quality
When a consumer buys from a business their legal rights under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 cannot be taken away or reduced. This is what the phrase sold as seen seeks to do.
Any warranty or guarantee can only be given in addition to their legal rights, not instead of them.
Furthermore, using the term sold as seen in these circumstances may also be a criminal offence under the Consumer Transactions (Restrictions on Statements) Order. It could be seen as an attempt to restrict a consumers legal rights. If a business wishes to use any disclaimers, either in contracts or in signs on their premises, it is best to seek legal advice or speak to trading standards first.
Sale and Supply of Goods Act - If you sell something, whether new or second-hand, it should be of satisfactory quality and fit for its ordinary everyday purpose. It should also be as you describe it.
When dealing with, or as, a consumer, the phrase sold as seen is effectively meaningless. The term sold as seen can only be applied in a reasonable manner and can only apply to the way the goods look: something that can easily be seen on a visual inspection. If one takes the example of a car, advertised for sale as sold as seen, the exclusion on liability can only apply to external features, such as scratched or damaged bodywork. It is not reasonable to expect a faulty exhaust or clutch to be picked up on the basis of a visual examination.
The problem for sellers, and the benefit for buyers, is the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). The Sale of Goods Act 1979 provides buyers with various rights, which state that the goods must be:
as described
fit for their purpose
of satisfactory quality
When a consumer buys from a business their legal rights under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 cannot be taken away or reduced. This is what the phrase sold as seen seeks to do.
Any warranty or guarantee can only be given in addition to their legal rights, not instead of them.
Furthermore, using the term sold as seen in these circumstances may also be a criminal offence under the Consumer Transactions (Restrictions on Statements) Order. It could be seen as an attempt to restrict a consumers legal rights. If a business wishes to use any disclaimers, either in contracts or in signs on their premises, it is best to seek legal advice or speak to trading standards first.
Sale and Supply of Goods Act - If you sell something, whether new or second-hand, it should be of satisfactory quality and fit for its ordinary everyday purpose. It should also be as you describe it.
In this case I think the OP bought froma dealer so he can apply it, however if you buy privately 9 generally cheaper ) you take the associated risk for the financial reward and its a case of buyer beware, unless they specifically lie about something you ask them directly then you have no comeback, even if they do lie to you, the onus is on you to prove what you asked and therfore 999 times out of a 1000 you have nil comeback
01-03-2010, 10:39 AM
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That's unlucky mate. 
If that was me, they'd definately be getting the car back and me getting my money back.
You also say that the bonnet lock barrel is also goosed and you couldn't get the bonnet open so that is also another reason they should get it back. The vehicle certainly wasn't fit for purpose when they sold it! Sounds to me like they just took it in on P/X, washed it and punted it on without doing even the minor checks.
As for buying a golf, as a couple of others have also said, they aren't all what they are cracked up to be IMO. I worked at a Seat dealer/VAG specialist for a few years and a Ford main dealer for 5 years before that and tbh, I found the mondeo better and more reliable. I think youve just been unlucky.
If that was me, they'd definately be getting the car back and me getting my money back.
You also say that the bonnet lock barrel is also goosed and you couldn't get the bonnet open so that is also another reason they should get it back. The vehicle certainly wasn't fit for purpose when they sold it! Sounds to me like they just took it in on P/X, washed it and punted it on without doing even the minor checks.
As for buying a golf, as a couple of others have also said, they aren't all what they are cracked up to be IMO. I worked at a Seat dealer/VAG specialist for a few years and a Ford main dealer for 5 years before that and tbh, I found the mondeo better and more reliable. I think youve just been unlucky.
01-03-2010, 11:10 AM
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If anyone can help me get info on these guys this is what I have so far
js-services2@hotmail.co.uk
Jason Lee Stanton
js salvage
willenhall
west midlands
wv13 3su
Number the guy gave me - think his name is dave or something 07917833831
js-services2@hotmail.co.uk
Jason Lee Stanton
js salvage
willenhall
west midlands
wv13 3su
Number the guy gave me - think his name is dave or something 07917833831
01-03-2010, 11:49 AM
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Sort of related to this, I sold a red top cavalier SRi on ebay in december 2007, put in the advert something along the lines of "Persistent knocking from front of car" and little else, just tax/MOT left and mileage. The winning bidder didn't look at it before he won the auction, but I let him and his mate have a good look at it, and he paid and drove away.
Next day I get a phonecall and the guy tells me the front suspension literally collapsed on the motorway back to kent (I'm in sussex) and I should pay half the recovery costs, wasn't properly listed, had been onto EBAY
(OH NO!) etc etc. Long and the short of it is I wasn't obliged to pay him anything, and he bought it like it so his bad luck, we're talking sub Ł300 here.
And before anyone goes off on a self righteous rant I had no idea what the noise was, and the previous weekend I had let my mum drive it to gatwick airport, was just bad luck.
I'm always hesitant to buy private for this very reason, actually when I bought the car it was from a dealer, but apparently it was "his mechanics" car or something and I didn't get any sort of warranty, sounds like bullshit now, probably how they get round selling old shit cavaliers, haha
Next day I get a phonecall and the guy tells me the front suspension literally collapsed on the motorway back to kent (I'm in sussex) and I should pay half the recovery costs, wasn't properly listed, had been onto EBAY
(OH NO!) etc etc. Long and the short of it is I wasn't obliged to pay him anything, and he bought it like it so his bad luck, we're talking sub Ł300 here. And before anyone goes off on a self righteous rant I had no idea what the noise was, and the previous weekend I had let my mum drive it to gatwick airport, was just bad luck.
I'm always hesitant to buy private for this very reason, actually when I bought the car it was from a dealer, but apparently it was "his mechanics" car or something and I didn't get any sort of warranty, sounds like bullshit now, probably how they get round selling old shit cavaliers, haha
01-03-2010, 07:57 PM
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If anyone can help me get info on these guys this is what I have so far
js-services2@hotmail.co.uk
Jason Lee Stanton
js salvage
willenhall
west midlands
wv13 3su
Number the guy gave me - think his name is dave or something 07917833831
js-services2@hotmail.co.uk
Jason Lee Stanton
js salvage
willenhall
west midlands
wv13 3su
Number the guy gave me - think his name is dave or something 07917833831
01-03-2010, 08:40 PM
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yeh in the hope you do one.
let me get this right......................
you bought one of the worst cars ford has ever made with out having a shufty under the bonnet to check the fluids ??????????????????????????????????
mate even my gran wouldn't do that.
my mate just spent abit over 900 quid on a dual mass clutch for a mondeo 53 plate diesel,that included a new starter ats the last one fucked up cos of the shit clutch.
i bought a mint late mk1 mondeo with half the miles in 10 times better condition and know for a fact that it won't fuck up with management lights going off and dodgy diesel pumps etc
let me get this right......................
you bought one of the worst cars ford has ever made with out having a shufty under the bonnet to check the fluids ??????????????????????????????????
mate even my gran wouldn't do that.
my mate just spent abit over 900 quid on a dual mass clutch for a mondeo 53 plate diesel,that included a new starter ats the last one fucked up cos of the shit clutch.
i bought a mint late mk1 mondeo with half the miles in 10 times better condition and know for a fact that it won't fuck up with management lights going off and dodgy diesel pumps etc
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