I work for a construction company although i dont do physical work. now ive been with my employer for over 5 years and they now have said they are doing random drug tests etc.

In my contact is doesnt say this so i presume they need to write to us formally changing our terms and conditions and ask us to sign and not the memo they have sent? i thought to change terms and conditions they have to do the above and wait six months for it to be valid as they did when the company got bought out?

Now i do smoke the herb, prob one or two of an evening so i would fail this test which would mean ur sacked on the spot!

My question is can i refuse the test if selected due to the reasons above? please no answers saying u shouldnt do it etc etc and yes ur prob right but i do!!

 

Why not give up the herb, for the sake of your job in a tough climate!

Might be a blessing in disguise for you.

 

i think you could refuse based on a few reasons, but isnt that as good as failing the test?

 

I think employers aren't idiots, you might be able to refuse to take the test, but they would assume you don't want to, because you know you would result positive.

 

yes know what ur saying but surley u can do what u want in ur own time? never has and never would effect my performance!

 

drink lots of water and stop for a few weeks - will flush out your system

 

this ones fookin simple,if they ask you all you do is say yeah ok and then injure yourself go home and put in for compensation,this way you get somthing out of it rather than the sack for being a druggy or refusing the test which lets face it is as good as saying no can doo cos i'm a doobie lover.

 

pisses me off that some companies do drug tests...if it doesn't affect your work, then what the fuck has it got to do with them, you work for them, you aren't their full time slave.
if it does affect your work, then they should sack you for that reason, not need a test to do it.

 

agreed ballin - Did read an article on line today that says companies are only doing this now so they can get rid of people without having to pay them off!!

 

You're all class mate


Yeah give up, drink loads of water, start jogging, at least two showers a day....extreme one is shave your head lol, stays in your hair for months

If a few employees argued it breaks the contract & would be a waste of company time it might not be so incriminating to argue your side.

 

simple really aint it, dont take drugs dont get sacked for being a druggy lol

 

It has a LOT to do with them, the effects of drugs can happen any time, would you want to work with someone operating heavy machinery, or as I do dealng with firearms who suddenly gets a massive flashback or a huge bout of angry paranoia? I fucking wouldn't, if you choose to be a drug addict it has concequences!

 

TBH i don't think you've got a leg to stand on, however IF you go to your employer FIRST before you go to the test and tell them that you will fail, then they have a duty to help you, thus you will not loose your job.

 

Guy at my dads work got the sack for having traces of weed in his system. Though to be fair this guy was driving a dumptruck on an opencast!

I don't see what difference it makes if your job isn't physical.

 

How do they actually test you? Piss or blood? Can they detect weed in your piss?

Say that your other half smokes, but you don't, and that it's just passive toking.

 

Smoking a couple of joints a night won't give you massive flashbacks and angry paranoia.

 

yeah some good points, but as u say if u fly a plane or do drive machines then yes you should be tested, but the most i operate is a calculator and computer!!

 

Try telling my brother that, I have seen it first hand. It affects people in different ways.

 

think they can trace in ur piss!

did think about the passive thing but levels would be too high in my system!

 

Sounds like someone's smoking more than a couple of joints then!

 

Count yourself lucky, some oil and gas companys have a zero tollernce to drugs and alcohol as in when you have been stuck at sea for 5 weeks and you get into port for a few days your still not allowed a drink and some even say no drink on your way home as your still in company time.

Heres a good vid to sho some peoples reactin to subsea7'sno drink policy lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uysa1R5VtM

 

It's well documented that regular "herb" use increases the chance of mental illness by over 60%..... personally I can't see the attraction, never have. Just strikes me as a bit sad, that's all.

 

What do you have to be addicted to for that then?

 

Your brother had dormant emotional issues then, funny how people can apply weed to ANYTHING mentally related at any time. There are a lot more personal parameters on the effects, but always better for people to puff out their chest and judgementally tell people all their afflictions

 

funny how its only the people that take drugs that stick up for them though eh?

 

because they dont see it as a issue until its too late, most people that do drugs will not admit they are a addict but they are

 

Not going to get into a drugs are good/bad debate - but that 60% is utter nonsense.

 

I don't smoke now but yeah I'd of happily defended it when I was still smoking too. Pretty hilarious how people happy to pickle their livers can berate weed though, really fuuny that one....doesn't do wonders for mental health either, but hey it's the social norm and massages broken ego's.

Just calling up on generic & ignorant statements about draw.

 

And its only smack and crack heads that fall under the label "drug addict", taking ket coke and weed i just normal these days

 

pretty simple really,


DONT TAKE DRUGS

 

one of the lads that worked beside me years ago he got sacked for failing a drug test .He appeled and won as he had been somking the stuff when he was on a stag do in hollland. But was still in his system. He was able to prove he was away as he still had the tickets.He kept his job but they tryed everthing to get him out the door later.

 

yep, but others can still fuck you up enough

 

And people aren't alchies or admitted ones despite binging to their hearts content every weekend, but you won't get cultural pressure against it or cool labels to make yourself feel better about a quip judgement because.....it makes tax money.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

I've worked for a construction company for the last 4 years and get random testing. Ive had quite a few tests and always been alright, but then i dont do drugs. If your doing no physical work and are in the office for example, the chance of you getting a test is very, very slim.

 

its simple stop the weed and you will have a job nothing to worry about then

 

Every construction company ive worked for in the last 5 years or so have had that written into their method statement and you get told about it at every induction. Ive never come across or even heard of anyone getting random tested though.

 

if they are suddenldly bringing it in it could be that they suspect some staff are doing drugs, so they have to test everyone in order to gain evidence against those few,

 

What drug kills the most people in this country, more than all the other drugs put together?

 

there is a difference between having a few social drinks at the weekend and needing a drink, when it becomes that you need to drink or take drugs is when it becomes a problem

From your replys i'd say it was you that was ignorant tbh

 

not alcohol, as it isnt a drug, not stirctly