anyone every managed to claim/get money back from the useless wankers??
i've been trying to get my payment amended since may as my partner and her daughter moved in with me so i should pay 5% less maintance,now i dont mind paying the money there my kids and i've always provided for them but the csa take the piss taking the extra each fortnight out my wages then take an extra £234 out and said they'll amend future payments but still nowt happened.i've worked out they owe me nearly £400 quid is there any way i can claim this back- court ect?

 

How does taking someone else's kid in make your own kid cheaper to run?

 

cheaper to run

It's the simple things in life that make me wet myself!

 

His original rate of maintenance would of been calculated on the basis he was a single man, so they would of taken as much as they could get they're hands on. As his Mrs has moved in with her child in toe he has technically now got another dependent who will need some sort of financial support from him.

The child's biological father will also be eligible for some form of "discount" if he contributes to her upbringing.

The CSA are good like that you see

Big-Dan.

 

spot on big dan,couldnt put it better myself.still need to know has anyone ever got money back from the useless fuckers.

 

theres not much good about the CSA! they seem to be totally about making money rather than looking out for the childs interests.

 

wouldnt care but not everything i've paid my ex has got for them,if she wasnt so thick she'd see she's better off getting it direct from me.

 

I know I'm old-fashioned, but do your own kids now cost mum less because you are looking after someone else's kid? Who makes up the difference in income for her?

And why should the father of your new partner's kid get a discount because you are now to provide for her?

Kids are for life, not just for Christmas!!!!

 

my ex was quick to piss off with someone else and have another kid so i doubt she's lost any income and certainly not off half of divorce

 

Not commenting on the reasons or the circumstances at all.

I'm just concerned that there are lots of kids growing up nowadays in very extended families and the concept of "family" seems to be getting diluted. Some guys and girls have kids with multiple partners and that just can't be such a good thing.

 

It's called spreading the wealth, that is how the system works at the moment. If you are single then you pay top rate, if you have another child or a partner who lives with you has a child, or your ex partner moves in with a new partner then the outgoing amount is divided so that all children get a slice of the pie.

This chap has no obligation to spend any of his hard earned money on his partners child but I'm sure he will as she is now partly his responsibility as she lives in his house.

What would you do in his position?

Big-Dan.

P.S No idea what you need to do to get your money back mate as luckily I've never had to deal with the CSA, I doubt you'll be seeing any return this side of the summer though as they are millions and millions of pounds in debt.

 

To be fair mate youre not really helping the situation, he only asked if he could get money back, he didnt ask to be put against the wall and shot for something he possibly had no control over in the first place.

 

I don't think the concept of "family" has been diluted as such, there are alot of men who are willing to become fathers for other men's children nowadays. After all all you really need in a loving family is a responsible mother and father figure, they don't necessarily have to be your biological parents.

As for multiple partners, I do agree that this is something that would and should raise concerns however I really can't see how the situation can be addressed without some sort of law being passed or everbody converting to catholics, lol.

A couple of kids with a couple of women is acceptable, 4, 5, or more however is not in my opinion.

Big-Dan.

 

jeremy kyle show springs to mind! people grow up too quick without learning responsibility that goes with thier actions.

sex is a good example sex education and access to contraception is better than ever before yet the morons still dont use it contributing to one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in europe. obviously some of that is deluded teens trying to get benefits.

People jump into serious relationships too early just the same hence 45% divorce rate!

 

i'm nearly 40 i'd been with my ex for nearly 20 years so not some young teen fathering kids left right and centre.i've provided for my kids through out there lives and will do until there 16 i think it is.i'm not on about not paying the money i'm on about paying to much as my kids dont get the difference the money goes to mothers who's kids fathers pay bugger all .

 

your missing the point mate he's right because say tables were turned and he'd left his wife and kids and met someone else with child and ex was left alone dependant on that money why should she accept less money because he's moving on with his life??

 

Like I say, I'm not having a pop at all, just expressing my own view. And as I understood it, everything you pay to the CSA should go to your family, not into a fund for others, and that's why i don't think it is right that a father pays less because he takes on a new family.

On the time you have to pay for them, I discovered with my oldest that it is 25 if they stay in full time education! And me and his mum are still together, and he still lives at home!

 

Well work this out, my excuse of a biological father should be paying CSA however, due to him being a cunt, he manages to find every loop hole in the system. From taking time off work for Apparent injuries to paying more into a pension. Hes even has had three more kids to lower his payments (which he told the woman on the phone at the CSA). Hes in over £4500 worth of arrears. Now hows that fair?

To put it blunt, Iain Mac is very right in his views and undoubtable the CSA are very poor at what they do.

Please don't feel like I'm having a personal dig but, you two did have the kid, you both have to provide. Don't expect the CSA to be doing anything soon, They are probably the slowest and poorest company in the world!

 

i'm not on about providing for them i have done all their lives and will contiune to do so even though i never see them,i'm on about the csa taking extra money straight from my pay which ends up going to other mothers who dont receive a penny from their childrens fathers.why should i pay more to pay for other peoples kids.all i want is my payment changed to the correct amount and either overpaid money back or payments reduced until that money is back .i'm not on about not paying for my kids