DanW@FastFord

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Agreed, very plausible comments - but like tuners not giving ideas away, nor am I

mcst

iirc there used to be company profiles in this vein.

I'd like to see a company fleet sort of thing, like the CSG cars/vans. Like a showcase for the top cars or the staff cars for a particular tuner.

crazycage

i just thought it would increase them as i know i like them issues better but you would know better than me about the sales mate

xr2john

i havent managed to get the jan issue yet but going by this i dont think i will bother, its been gettting very boring for the last few months or so,and i havent managed to get fast ford for the last few months either, think i will just carry on buying retro ford as atleast it has some good reading and hopefully they will pick up that the fiesta is starting to become a classic ford now,

simon170

Thrash issues always increase sales at PF.

rabmc

It must be difficult as its been running for years, i stopped buying a few years ago, mainly due to selling my frs but bought one a few months ago for old times sake and to see what the new frs was all about, it was ok but alot of the same from a few years ago.

but you can only cover sooo much within time surely, and "how" many people are producing cool/fast fords these days it cant be enough can it.

so what have they to doo go work in aldi? i would imagine new ideas would be good but what??

One to go out of business or whatever would help the other and leave them the "cream"

Rod-Tarry

My car is unlikely to appear in these two mags again, but please can I have an opinion on what I would like to see, ive not knocked what you or anyone else want .

ScORTED

People like us spend years getting our cars done, because we are real people with very limited budgets and tbh I think most of us don't build cars to be featured we build what we want, if you want non mega budget non cossie stuff to feature get around the cars at the shows, you find a decent modified non cossie / s2 rst and talk to the owner they'd be flattered and love to be featured. I'd not send in pictures of my car and ask for a feature I go to all the shows and a good few years back the first time it came out of paint i spoke to the FF and PF boys and said come have a look its different... but its not a cossie and back then it was only a mildly modified zetec.

My FF sub expired and I haven't renewed because the last 6 months of so i didn't enjoy reading the features and its alot of money to spend to get an update on the mags cars.

I'd like to see more well modified non RS cars... I've got a stack of FF's a couple of feet high and 70% of its cossies

dojj

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but when 6 of the sleeper category cars are cossie pwoered, it does sort of make you think "hmm, another cossie"

i do like the mag, and i think pf has got better since the change over recently, but when you try to please everyone and then try to please everyone else who's complained about not being pleased, you have to think about what's going to please the most amount of people rather than whats going to generate the most amount of fuss

the julian godfrey pwoered car in the other months pf was a great bit of scoopage, but i didn't think the write up was up to much more than a 12 year old could have managed

thing is, when do you get a merdiocre car to get in with just some alloys and a remap that gives it 76 brake eh

dojj

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but it's on page 67 of this issue of ff mate

but i know what oyu mean

i would like to be able to see "behind the scenes" at some of the bigger and smaller tuners up and down the country, with some sort of timeline to follow so we know what they were doing when this came along and if they specialis in certain models because they've spent so long doing it or they poached staff form soemone else to specialise in another area etc etc

bound to be worth the free press they get and it might give them a better standing than "just" doing small ad, i mean, look at what stu's done

although if i've blown an idea out the water i'll edit this post

lewisrst

cant beat fast ford

DanW@FastFord

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We used to do the whole 'big stand, sell mags' affair, and I deliberately changed all that and no longer sell mags (except at Ford Fair) so we can get into the show, chat to people and find cars.

The problem is that while some are realistic about their car others are so passionate they think they somehow deserve a feature when their cars aren't really featureable. If they see one of us walk past their car without stopping they take it as a personal insult! But we can't speak to every single person on the offchance that they may have massive plans for their cars. I'll happily chat to anyone at s show, but some push their luck - I had one guy at Santa Pod try and persuade me to feature his car while I was taking a piss!!

In general we feature one, maybe two Cossies per issue, and the rest of the feature cars aren't, so I'm not really sure why people keep banging on about the mag being full of Cossies. There's also the small fact that the YB is a cracking engine and a lot of people like to tune them, or transplant them, so it's no surprise that a mag dedicated to fast Fords features them.

MikeR

Some more big thrashs would be good, but with cars pushing limits etc, maybe some head to head with well know track drivers in the same car? much like the MLR recently did,

Mike

Benni

I have the solution. Both magazines should merge - HTH.

Benni.

matts1

I would think it is extremely hard to put a mag together month after month, trying to avoid putting the same thing in over and over or the same cars cars as a rival mag.

They have to appeal to the 14 year old school boy into his cool styling to the 50 year old guy into a technical masterpiece.

Then you have the issue of finding the cars that are different enough to be worthy of a feature, as the car scene follows trends so lots of people go down the same route.

adding to this is the fact that although new stuff comes along we are still only looking at a handful of models by Ford, so they are relying on the owners of these cars to be creating new fresh stuff.

Also sites such as this and other similar site mean that often people have already watched the rest threads or know all about the cars before they reach the pages of the mags, as said, people dont build for a feature they build for themselves - so they wont have kept it all under wraps for the feature.

This I would imagine will effect sales as people don't bother with the mag as they have seen whats in it. And if there are lower sales, there is less profit and so less cash to do stuff to create exciting features.

Not to say they get everything perfect, but i doubt it is an easy job to churn out mags that will be constantly entertaining to the masses.

However i do think threads like this can only help in a way if what is being said can be taken on board and help mags tweak and change.

Fastmaul

I agree with Simon here. When I first met Nick he was very quite and NEVER not ONCE did he show me or my wife any notions that he was an arrogant at all. I would go one step further and say he isn't a good guy, he's a great guy.

Couple months ago I was given a few FF mags. I read them and thought it was a lot better and like most here thought it was full of way to many adverts. Like anything else, it is a necessary evil but "I" do feel that FF has a bit more. In fact, it reminds me of the typical "tuner" magazines we have here in the states, for every feature there are just as many or more adverts in it. Maybe if they could put all the adverts in a certain section in the mag it would be better?? At times I felt like I was looking through a Demon Tweeks catalouge with features splashed here and there lol (FF's mag that is) I did enjoy it though, not taking anything away from the hard work these fellas put into the magazine (both PF and FF). Another thing I've loved is how they've actually expanded and started covering cars OUTSIDE of the UK! How many RS500 spec T4'd up'd cossie's can one take!!!(not that it's been like in a long time!) I usually find when reading posts like these is someone who's bitching because one of their mate's cars wasn't featured either. I think both mags are about equal now, I just happen to like PF a bit more but would still be happy reading FF. You guys want to complain about price?? how about $11 for one issue and about $120 for a subscription..
BTW, to me BOTH of these mags are better than any of the mags I find over here ALL cater to Japanese cars and the "Euro" ones cater to VW's and BMW's.. it's boring.

I hope both PF and FF stay in print for a long time!

Chip

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What did you think of the feature PF did of Taryn's car mate?

I could barely read most of it cause they used such a light colour print on a cloudy sky, that seemed like shocking production to me!

Fudgey

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and they forgot to photoshop nick out from pushing the car, ON THE COVER



was also the same pic used int he feature with what looked like nick playing hide and seek lol.

H7 CYA

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To be honest it doesnt put me off if a car has been seen on the resto thread on here or any other site is in a mag, its good to see it again with a different write up. If the builds good or it has a good story behind it, it really makes a good read. I can see how its hard to get new non seen cars, and i do think both mags do a very good job, theres certainly plenty of high spec cossies rsts out there too feature.Its just the last performance ford i read i didnt enjoy, it just wasnt the same as it used to be.Maybe there was just a big splurt of new performance products, records being broken, and huge huge spec 280+ rsts, 500+ cossies, that made for me, a real good read!

Rod-Tarry

I believe its in pf every month in the stats page .

The Youth.

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I have bought both mags every month since 1989 (still have them all!) I have seen huge changes in that time, I even remember them doing new car features on the likes of the new mk5 escort lol
stuff like that might appeal ie a feature on a brand new car just so we can see exactly what ford are producing now.

another idea is instead of featuring one car get a group of friends together, for example me and 2 friends have all got sierra xr track cars all 3 have different mods eg, one boa powered, 1 bob and the other a modded 12v and have achieved the same thing... fun on track, I'm sure readers would love to see the different approaches to how all the were modded..
just an idea or 2!

steve

cozzfather

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i feel cosworth 10 comming along,featuring cosworth shoot out,bling resto,the original escort cosworth rally car,gartrac rallycross european winner,norwegian/swedish/german etc big power cosworth,price guide and a bt v st guide. chuck in a load of ads,a bit of blarney and you have a winner that would keep me happy lol

RS500

I hate that don´t properly performance or dyno test the cars they feature in the mag.
And it schould be like the evo magazine but than for fords.

dojj

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but you got a small write up in this one

JHS

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And who would pay for this? You? Or should they only feature cars that have dyno sheets, narrowing the choice even further than it is now...

dojj

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and how do you know the dyno sheets wouldn't have been "modified"?

i did like the stats that pf listed as they tested them "on the day"

i think

bigbill

Personally I think always looking for something new is possibly where there going wrong. Dont get me wrong I love to see the new cars on the scene but for me the magazines where at there height many years ago when what was mostly featured was nice road going cars. A nice balance would be perfect.

I used to love PF when Keith and Ben where there and they used to feature stuff like a nice clean Saff Cossie on Escos wheels, lowered with a leather interior and a good healthy Stage 3 spec. Same goes for FF. It just feels these days that if you don't at least have a roll cage there is no chance of a feature.

Although I will say while I think FF has come on leaps and bounds in the last couple of years I do think PF is going very down hill.

Glenn_

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i agree with big bill. I think more cars like that should be featured. Its not all about big bhp. L still think ff is a top mag and i dont think i will ever stop buying it. Ive got 3 boxes full of ff mags now.

RS500

No i would not pay for it but still thank this would be the way to go.
I don't care about peformance ford anymore.

RS500

Let them do a dynorun in front of the magazine people.
or het al least have some proven performance figures of car like whit gps or a vbox.

Rod-Tarry

Done that
My Dyno run was covered by FF. It didnt stop the knockers from saying the figures were fiddled, you cant win im afraid timing is the only way to stop the bullshit.
How about a Standing mile Thrash for each feature car that would get all the stats in one run & diminish the safety dangers. If a car dont want to do it, tell the punters that it chickened out, very soon only get proper cars.
This would only apply to the cars quoting big Power, unless others wanted to do it. There is still room for Lower powered cars & show cars to make their mark in other ways.

DanW@FastFord

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That's fine if you can get all the cars to Brunters, but not everyone's willing to travel that far. Plus it would mean that every car was shot at a boring airfield. There's also the cost to factor onto it. Unless you were willing to pay double for the magazine we simply couldn't afford to pay for the venue and a full safety team every time!

RS500

Agreed Madrod
The peformance stuff schould be 1/4 mile times+trapspeed standing mile times+trapspeed or laptime or circuit laptime
Btw in a peformance car magazine be schould be no showcars unless thay have plenty of power to back up the show ortherwise no showcars.One of my favorite of all magazine's is hot rod magazine from the uk only high performance no bullshitcars.
Finally home build cars schould be welcome but they still have to be peformance cars.

Lloyd

you only have to get the cars to brunters to time them,so do 5 at once,and a shoot out at the same time.then take the mag pics at a later date.

crazycage

i would love to have mine timed 0-60 0-100 and 1/4 mile im not intested in top speed i will never do that in the real world, has fast ford got any thrashes lined up for 2010?

Nash

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I really enjoy reading Fast Ford and Classic Ford, I also used to buy PF every month untill about a year ago, when i found it got very boring. The problem alot of mags have is they usually picture the same cars to go into there show reports, which does get a little boring.

carcollector

as per title : it always was.

DanW@FastFord

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Time, distance and cost restraints mean that it's just not practical. If it was do-able then I'd do it! Also not everyone is as interested In performance as some on here, so it wouldn't necessarily equate to a sales increase.

Dan j

i used to buy maxpower, fast car, revs, fast ford,red line and performance ford, did so from about 2002 then then most of them went crap.
I only buy FF PF and redline now saves alot of money, i remember dan and his ginger golf mk2 and he's come a long way to running fast ford mag.
PF went down hill when dave and nick left, i still get the mag but i agree with the topic title.

Dan

Lloyd

true , but you dont need to time every car? only those that have decent engine mods,and the owners are claiming they are fast,not much point in decats and airfilters.
concours cars,indepth reports would be good,how do you make a winner?owners tell you how much effort they put in,show what the judges are looking for.in technical detail?
i would like less pictures ,and more indepth technical wrightups.something to read,like stus tech reports.but on basic issues,cossy cambelt change ect.