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28-12-2009, 08:21 PM
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rolling road in the morn!!
hi folks, im off down to the racing line in halifax tommorrow for the MLR shoot out, hope my evo can make at least standard figures 280bhp?? and ive done around 400miles on the new rebuilt engine so hope it gets there ok its about 100miles away from me so i will be looking for shell garages as most will tel ya evo,s or wicked on the old juice..lol
thers 30 cars going on the rollers and maybe 10 to 20 watching so alot of evo,s
http://www.theracingline.co.uk/ matt at TRL is the stu of the evo world
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thers 30 cars going on the rollers and maybe 10 to 20 watching so alot of evo,s
http://www.theracingline.co.uk/ matt at TRL is the stu of the evo world
andy
28-12-2009, 08:51 PM
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Wasn't the evo 3 260bhp? 
I'm rusty on the old evo figures but I seem to remember the 1 was around 240-250bhp & the 2 was about the same and the 3 was higher
Cracking cars though
What is the spec of yours?
I'm rusty on the old evo figures but I seem to remember the 1 was around 240-250bhp & the 2 was about the same and the 3 was higher Cracking cars though
What is the spec of yours?
28-12-2009, 08:59 PM
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specs>>
evo 6 engine
evo 8MR pistons and rods
evo 9MR full engine gasket set
evo 9MR 5 multilayer head gasket
cosworth race bearings plastigaged at 0.063 with in mitzy tolerance
ARP stud set
evo 8 actuater running 1.2 bar
so will see what she makes in the morn..
28-12-2009, 09:22 PM
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hi mate evo 3 was 270bhp , i dont own that car any more ive got a evo 4 with a evo 6 engine that ive just rebuilt
specs>>
evo 6 engine
evo 8MR pistons and rods
evo 9MR full engine gasket set
evo 9MR 5 multilayer head gasket
cosworth race bearings plastigaged at 0.063 with in mitzy tolerance
ARP stud set
evo 8 actuater running 1.2 bar
so will see what she makes in the morn..
specs>>
evo 6 engine
evo 8MR pistons and rods
evo 9MR full engine gasket set
evo 9MR 5 multilayer head gasket
cosworth race bearings plastigaged at 0.063 with in mitzy tolerance
ARP stud set
evo 8 actuater running 1.2 bar
so will see what she makes in the morn..
I also really like the 4 because it's more subtle than the 5 & 6 so it doesn't stand out so much. Running 1.2 bar on that you should see over 280bhp I reckon
28-12-2009, 09:27 PM
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28-12-2009, 09:30 PM
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on a good engine 1bar should see 300bhp they only run 0.8bar as standard so 1.2bar ? not to sure will see, i will post results tommorow
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28-12-2009, 09:38 PM
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heres the link
http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...t=294030&page=
out of 30 evo,s im rst Evo 4 Aprrox 300 BHP, and MLR have estamated that bhp figure not me!!
28-12-2009, 09:39 PM
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1) Opeil400 Evo V approx 280BHP
2) Stallion Standard aprrox 280BHP
3) RSgeoff Evo 2 approx 280bhp
4) Rexy Evo 5 Approx 280BHP
5) Andyevo2 Evo 4 approx 300 BHP
6) rst Evo 4 Aprrox 300 BHP
7) ChrisT Evo 6 approx 320 BHP
8) Scaffolder Evo X Approx 330BHP
9) Portalking Evo V aprrox 320BHP
10) Nick`s Evo 260 Approx 340BHP
11) fast_lad Evo 6RS approx 350BHP
12) fastwill Evo 7 approx 360BHP
13) gaz_36 Evo 4 approx 360BHP
14) Goky21 Evo 4 Approx ???? few mods tho?
15) plip1953 Extreme apprrox 370BHP
16) Dino4 Evo X SST Approx 378
17) Ringrey Evo IX approx 380
18) wolfy1 Evo 8 approx 390BHP
19) JimiEvo Evo IX Approx 398BHP
20) Westdixonmitsi Evo VII approx 400
21)Mad-Mancumian Evo IX Approx 415BHP
22)John e boy Evo IX approx 420bhp
23)Stevov Evo 5 apporx 430BHP
24)EwanS Evo 8 260 Approx 430BHP
25)lespotts Evo X approx 483BHP
26)Jacko4RS Evo 4RS approx 500bhp
27)Evo-Beast Evo IX 522BHP
28)mojo81 Evo 4 Approx 540BHP
29)J88HNB Evo 7 approx 550BHP
30) PLACE AVAILABLE
2) Stallion Standard aprrox 280BHP
3) RSgeoff Evo 2 approx 280bhp
4) Rexy Evo 5 Approx 280BHP
5) Andyevo2 Evo 4 approx 300 BHP
6) rst Evo 4 Aprrox 300 BHP
7) ChrisT Evo 6 approx 320 BHP
8) Scaffolder Evo X Approx 330BHP
9) Portalking Evo V aprrox 320BHP
10) Nick`s Evo 260 Approx 340BHP
11) fast_lad Evo 6RS approx 350BHP
12) fastwill Evo 7 approx 360BHP
13) gaz_36 Evo 4 approx 360BHP
14) Goky21 Evo 4 Approx ???? few mods tho?
15) plip1953 Extreme apprrox 370BHP
16) Dino4 Evo X SST Approx 378
17) Ringrey Evo IX approx 380
18) wolfy1 Evo 8 approx 390BHP
19) JimiEvo Evo IX Approx 398BHP
20) Westdixonmitsi Evo VII approx 400
21)Mad-Mancumian Evo IX Approx 415BHP
22)John e boy Evo IX approx 420bhp
23)Stevov Evo 5 apporx 430BHP
24)EwanS Evo 8 260 Approx 430BHP
25)lespotts Evo X approx 483BHP
26)Jacko4RS Evo 4RS approx 500bhp
27)Evo-Beast Evo IX 522BHP
28)mojo81 Evo 4 Approx 540BHP
29)J88HNB Evo 7 approx 550BHP
30) PLACE AVAILABLE
30-12-2009, 09:02 AM
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mine made the least hp but im all smiles, im 15.5 bhp down but when i went to talk to matt he was nodding his head and i thought whats he gona say to me?
he said that engine is absolutly spot on!! he asked if iv had it mapped and i said no its a e4 ecu as far as i now ive never looked , matt said the graphs are were they should be with AFR and boost, and 4WD looses only 67.3 bhp!!
the thing is it runs so well and picks up straight away so a good base engine to start with, and what a great day it was, even tho this is a e6 engine it is running with e4 turbo and e4 injectors, so been told to get evo 5-7 ecu, 560cc injectors, fuel pump, evo9 turbo, gsc1's and up to 1/7/1.8 bar ish should be around 415/430
he said that engine is absolutly spot on!! he asked if iv had it mapped and i said no its a e4 ecu as far as i now ive never looked , matt said the graphs are were they should be with AFR and boost, and 4WD looses only 67.3 bhp!!
the thing is it runs so well and picks up straight away so a good base engine to start with, and what a great day it was, even tho this is a e6 engine it is running with e4 turbo and e4 injectors, so been told to get evo 5-7 ecu, 560cc injectors, fuel pump, evo9 turbo, gsc1's and up to 1/7/1.8 bar ish should be around 415/430
30-12-2009, 09:15 AM
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30-12-2009, 09:54 AM
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Good base then mate, looks about right for the boost on a 4 ecu. Bet you can't wait to get some boost into it, are you going geekmapped?
I'm toying with what to do to my standard 6, I need more power.
I'm toying with what to do to my standard 6, I need more power.
30-12-2009, 11:30 AM
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im only using yellow 510 injectors for now , what do you think to how good my wheel losses well happy , everyone else were making around 90 to 100 .
will get some pics up later one of the best bits to the day was meeting at birch service station and driving in convoy with around 20 evo,s to TRL, awsome , at times i was on full bore to keep with everyone
andy
30-12-2009, 11:47 AM
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As far as im aware the DD rolling road setup makes no attempt to measure your transmission losses, it simply applies a formula to the wheels figure to calculate based on drivetrain type, so the reason that you had the lowest losses was that you had the least power.
Im amazed that the rolling road operator let you leave thinking this was a good thing, surely he should realise that his rollers arent measuring it in the first place?
Agreed that it looks to be running nicely though, good smooth boost line and the AFR's dont wander around too much etc
Still a moderately quick car by most people's standards im sure mate
Im amazed that the rolling road operator let you leave thinking this was a good thing, surely he should realise that his rollers arent measuring it in the first place?
Agreed that it looks to be running nicely though, good smooth boost line and the AFR's dont wander around too much etc
Still a moderately quick car by most people's standards im sure mate
30-12-2009, 12:26 PM
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this is the second 4g63t ive built up from the crank!! and going to look at the ecu this afternoon to see if its a e4 or above, its got a new 1.2 bar actuator on but looking at the graph it only lifted a bar? im not sure weather to go geek mapped or use matt@TRL
im only using yellow 510 injectors for now , what do you think to how good my wheel losses well happy , everyone else were making around 90 to 100 .
will get some pics up later one of the best bits to the day was meeting at birch service station and driving in convoy with around 20 evo,s to TRL, awsome , at times i was on full bore to keep with everyone
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im only using yellow 510 injectors for now , what do you think to how good my wheel losses well happy , everyone else were making around 90 to 100 .
will get some pics up later one of the best bits to the day was meeting at birch service station and driving in convoy with around 20 evo,s to TRL, awsome , at times i was on full bore to keep with everyone
andy
There's a few geek mappers around the country from what I understand. I presume Matt will be using ecutek? You'll obviously need a 6 ecu (and make sure it's the right one as some late 6 and tommi mak ones can't be geek'd) Then get some std evo 6 injectors, walbro, FPR and maybe gizzmo boost controller or 3 post solenoid from US to use with the remap.
30-12-2009, 12:35 PM
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As far as im aware the DD rolling road setup makes no attempt to measure your transmission losses, it simply applies a formula to the wheels figure to calculate based on drivetrain type, so the reason that you had the lowest losses was that you had the least power.
Im amazed that the rolling road operator let you leave thinking this was a good thing, surely he should realise that his rollers arent measuring it in the first place?
Agreed that it looks to be running nicely though, good smooth boost line and the AFR's dont wander around too much etc
Still a moderately quick car by most people's standards im sure mate
Im amazed that the rolling road operator let you leave thinking this was a good thing, surely he should realise that his rollers arent measuring it in the first place?
Agreed that it looks to be running nicely though, good smooth boost line and the AFR's dont wander around too much etc
Still a moderately quick car by most people's standards im sure mate
thanks
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30-12-2009, 12:46 PM
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Because the cogs exert friction on each other which is proportional to load as they transfer the power.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
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Because the cogs exert friction on each other which is proportional to load as they transfer the power.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
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Because the cogs exert friction on each other which is proportional to load as they transfer the power.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
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Because the cogs exert friction on each other which is proportional to load as they transfer the power.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
Place your hand on the desk, press down gently and then slide it along the desk.
Now do the same thing but press down harder, still the same hand and the same desk, but now with a greater loss.
Essentially that mimics what happens with the cogs they are pushing into each other harder with more load.
If you have access to the graph for one of the cars that made around 350bhp, I would wager that it will be showing losses of around 90bhp on the figures you were given on the day.
84 bhp loss cant get much closer than that!!!!
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