Mk1 frs or Subaru Impreza
25-12-2009, 01:05 PM
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Mk1 frs or Subaru Impreza
Ever since the MK1 focus RS came out I've always liked them and think styling wise Ford got it spot on. Currently I own a MY00 Impreza which is pretty much standard and to be honest I really enjoy owning/driving. Of late I've been thinking about getting a FRS. Now if I was to sell my Scooby which has 60000 on the clock and in good condition I'd be lucky to get 4k for. The focus's I've been looking at with lowish mileage (40k and under) seem to be about 10 k ish. What I would like to hear is opinions from people who have owned both. Is the focus worth 6k more than the Subaru? The Road surfaces where i live are more like those in Bosnia than the uk i.e shite. So I can't see the focus being capable of having the same amount of grip as the Subaru?.How do the running costs compare? I'm a ford boy at heart, and miss the RS scene. I have two children ages 4 and 3 months so obviously the scooby is more practical, but to be honest that doesn't affect my choice. Cheers for any advice/comments
25-12-2009, 01:29 PM
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Love to Focus RS, driven a few and they never fail to make me grin. Mate of mine ran one as a daily driver and test bed for his business with no bad words to be said.
Saying that though even not being a big Subaru I can't help but think the old Impreza is a better choice for you. The crap residuals mean bargains a plenty to be had.
Saying that though even not being a big Subaru I can't help but think the old Impreza is a better choice for you. The crap residuals mean bargains a plenty to be had.
25-12-2009, 05:11 PM
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sorry but fwd against 4wd,,,,,, i know what id choose,,,,,, oh wait thats cause i own a impreza !
one of the best cars ive ever driven hence ive never sold it
one of the best cars ive ever driven hence ive never sold it
25-12-2009, 05:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure the FRS will keep up or even outpace a scooby round a track...they handle really well!
The scooby's good because it's practical, reliable and won't surprise you, unlike the RS.
In my opinion the RS isnt worth the extra 6 k over the scoob.
p.s. Ginge is wrong, regardless of the subject.
The scooby's good because it's practical, reliable and won't surprise you, unlike the RS.
In my opinion the RS isnt worth the extra 6 k over the scoob.
p.s. Ginge is wrong, regardless of the subject.
25-12-2009, 05:30 PM
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I'd put a few hundred or so into the Impreza to make it tip-top, then if not already done, boost power to around 270-280bhp along with a couple of small handling improvements then just use it and use it for years to come... happy in the knowledge that it ticks a lot of boxes for pretty small outlay.
Cheers,
Grant
Cheers,
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25-12-2009, 05:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure the FRS will keep up or even outpace a scooby round a track...they handle really well!
The scooby's good because it's practical, reliable and won't surprise you, unlike the RS.
In my opinion the RS isnt worth the extra 6 k over the scoob.
p.s. Ginge is wrong, regardless of the subject.
The scooby's good because it's practical, reliable and won't surprise you, unlike the RS.
In my opinion the RS isnt worth the extra 6 k over the scoob.
p.s. Ginge is wrong, regardless of the subject.
25-12-2009, 06:01 PM
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I'd put a few hundred or so into the Impreza to make it tip-top, then if not already done, boost power to around 270-280bhp along with a couple of small handling improvements then just use it and use it for years to come... happy in the knowledge that it ticks a lot of boxes for pretty small outlay.
Cheers,
Grant
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But having said that do what makes you happy mate lifes too short n all that.
25-12-2009, 06:32 PM
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[QUOTE=StephTell;4600413]I'm pretty sure the FRS will keep up or even outpace a scooby round a track...they handle really well!
It may well beat it around the track, but what about on real world roads. Derbyshire county councils idea of re-surfacing a road is to put 2 mm of tar down, dump 40mm of chippings on top of the tar, run a road sweeper over it once. And jobs a good one.
It may well beat it around the track, but what about on real world roads. Derbyshire county councils idea of re-surfacing a road is to put 2 mm of tar down, dump 40mm of chippings on top of the tar, run a road sweeper over it once. And jobs a good one.
25-12-2009, 06:40 PM
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iv had a sti ra scooby 400brake complete weapon ,used lots off fuel was an import fresh off the boot as mate deals with them,but there worth peanuts now markets droped unless its an import wouldnt bother ,my mate has focus rs been remaped decat few other bits an it still good on fuel + wount loss that much money on it like a scooby there both great fun depend what ya buget is ,id hav a rs any day but then i owned scooby for 3years
25-12-2009, 06:42 PM
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think that happens every were mate same up hear
I'm pretty sure the FRS will keep up or even outpace a scooby round a track...they handle really well!
It may well beat it around the track, but what about on real world roads. Derbyshire county councils idea of re-surfacing a road is to put 2 mm of tar down, dump 40mm of chippings on top of the tar, run a road sweeper over it once. And jobs a good one.
It may well beat it around the track, but what about on real world roads. Derbyshire county councils idea of re-surfacing a road is to put 2 mm of tar down, dump 40mm of chippings on top of the tar, run a road sweeper over it once. And jobs a good one.
think that happens every were mate same up hear
25-12-2009, 06:50 PM
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26-12-2009, 12:11 AM
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It is mate. Clue is in the name. 
There's love for something and being blinkered towards only one thing... its like saying that for 14k, you'd rather buy an Escort Cosworth for a daily drive/part-time track car than an Impreza STi or Mitsi EVO which would do the job far better and without the need for constant cash injections for upgrades/repairs which would inevitably come along with the Ford.
lol @ a 1999/2000 UK Impreza Turbo being a fashion accessory in (almost) 2010!!
Money no object, I'd agree with you... but the OP asked if the FRS was going to be worth the Ł6,000 extra needed for him to go from the Impreza to the Focus, which I don't think it would be given his list of requirements.
Cheers,
Grant
There's love for something and being blinkered towards only one thing... its like saying that for 14k, you'd rather buy an Escort Cosworth for a daily drive/part-time track car than an Impreza STi or Mitsi EVO which would do the job far better and without the need for constant cash injections for upgrades/repairs which would inevitably come along with the Ford.
lol @ a 1999/2000 UK Impreza Turbo being a fashion accessory in (almost) 2010!!
Money no object, I'd agree with you... but the OP asked if the FRS was going to be worth the Ł6,000 extra needed for him to go from the Impreza to the Focus, which I don't think it would be given his list of requirements.
Cheers,
Grant
26-12-2009, 12:20 AM
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It is mate. Clue is in the name.
There's love for something and being blinkered towards only one thing... its like saying that for 14k, you'd rather buy an Escort Cosworth for a daily drive/part-time track car than an Impreza STi or Mitsi EVO which would do the job far better and without the need for constant cash injections for upgrades/repairs which would inevitably come along with the Ford.
lol @ a 1999/2000 UK Impreza Turbo being a fashion accessory in (almost) 2010!!
Money no object, I'd agree with you... but the OP asked if the FRS was going to be worth the Ł6,000 extra needed for him to go from the Impreza to the Focus, which I don't think it would be given his list of requirements.
Cheers,
Grant
There's love for something and being blinkered towards only one thing... its like saying that for 14k, you'd rather buy an Escort Cosworth for a daily drive/part-time track car than an Impreza STi or Mitsi EVO which would do the job far better and without the need for constant cash injections for upgrades/repairs which would inevitably come along with the Ford.
lol @ a 1999/2000 UK Impreza Turbo being a fashion accessory in (almost) 2010!!
Money no object, I'd agree with you... but the OP asked if the FRS was going to be worth the Ł6,000 extra needed for him to go from the Impreza to the Focus, which I don't think it would be given his list of requirements.
Cheers,
Grant
26-12-2009, 12:28 AM
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firstly i would have the escort cosworth, secondly were not talkin bout evos which funny enough is the only jap car i think is worth owning an as for reliablity with scoobys, they r just as bad as anythin with an rs badge, pistons made of chocolate an to top it off i could look out my window for half hour an see at least ten scoobies past an 1 frs MAYBE, an a cosworth once in a blue moon so yes imo the frs is 6k more car, if he wants a cheap fast popular car get a mondeo st200
You're not blinkered in the slightest are you? I love reading posts by people like you!!
Cheers,
Grant
26-12-2009, 12:34 AM
#23
thats rich bout age old reliability bollox when u used exactly same thing with the frs, its a ford zetec engine which is pretty much bullet proof when looked after, an yeah an escos as a daily but thats coz i love em as for the st200 u got a point i didnt really take into account his price range coz for that u could get a st220 an yeah id def have 1 ove a scooby anyday
26-12-2009, 12:41 AM
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thats rich bout age old reliability bollox when u used exactly same thing with the frs, its a ford zetec engine which is pretty much bullet proof when looked after, an yeah an escos as a daily but thats coz i love em as for the st200 u got a point i didnt really take into account his price range coz for that u could get a st220 an yeah id def have 1 ove a scooby anyday
I like the ST220, but the +400quid a year tax thats about to hit them puts them right off the mark for the 'reasonable' performance they offer IMO.... so would only ever consider an ST TDCi in that shape/age Mondeo, but then thats another lump of cash more than the equivalent age/mileage ST220 would cost.
Cheers,
Grant
26-12-2009, 12:49 AM
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I never mentioned the FRS being unreliable buddy. I did however say that an EsCos would require far more money being spent on routine maintenance and upgrades to fulfil the same purpose (to the same level) that a very lightly tweaked Impreza or Evo would take almost in its stride... and I think I love Escort Cosworths more than you, since if I had one, then it would be kept in garage as a weekend toy and never driven as a daily driver!!
I like the ST220, but the +400quid a year tax thats about to hit them puts them right off the mark for the 'reasonable' performance they offer IMO.... so would only ever consider an ST TDCi in that shape/age Mondeo, but then thats another lump of cash more than the equivalent age/mileage ST220 would cost.
Cheers,
Grant
I like the ST220, but the +400quid a year tax thats about to hit them puts them right off the mark for the 'reasonable' performance they offer IMO.... so would only ever consider an ST TDCi in that shape/age Mondeo, but then thats another lump of cash more than the equivalent age/mileage ST220 would cost.
Cheers,
Grant
26-12-2009, 08:41 AM
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fun factor till you get sick of tipping the seats forward to get the kids in and out every day. i would stick with a 4 door while the kids are at home mate.
focus has a lot harder suspension than the scoob, tyres,brakes,consumables are a lot dearer too. they do torque steer no matter what people say,and the bumpy roads that are the norm round here make it 10 times worse.
yes the rs is nice and i would probably take one over my m3 if i could, but i have driven quite a few and don't know if i could live with one everyday or trust the misses in it.
focus has a lot harder suspension than the scoob, tyres,brakes,consumables are a lot dearer too. they do torque steer no matter what people say,and the bumpy roads that are the norm round here make it 10 times worse.
yes the rs is nice and i would probably take one over my m3 if i could, but i have driven quite a few and don't know if i could live with one everyday or trust the misses in it.
26-12-2009, 09:11 AM
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fun factor till you get sick of tipping the seats forward to get the kids in and out every day. i would stick with a 4 door while the kids are at home mate.
focus has a lot harder suspension than the scoob, tyres,brakes,consumables are a lot dearer too. they do torque steer no matter what people say,and the bumpy roads that are the norm round here make it 10 times worse.
yes the rs is nice and i would probably take one over my m3 if i could, but i have driven quite a few and don't know if i could live with one everyday or trust the misses in it.
focus has a lot harder suspension than the scoob, tyres,brakes,consumables are a lot dearer too. they do torque steer no matter what people say,and the bumpy roads that are the norm round here make it 10 times worse.
yes the rs is nice and i would probably take one over my m3 if i could, but i have driven quite a few and don't know if i could live with one everyday or trust the misses in it.
26-12-2009, 09:23 AM
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No doubt they are better looking and a lot rarer than the Subaru. But my original question was, in the real world on damp,crap road surfaces (which for 330 days a year they are lol) how do the two compare, is the focus really worth 6k more and only 3 years newer? It may sound like I've already answered my own question, but I would just like to hear peoples opinions who have owned the two. My head says stick with what I have, The rest says get the RS. your hear for a good time not a long time
26-12-2009, 09:41 AM
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as for reliablity with scoobys, they r just as bad as anythin with an rs badge, pistons made of chocolate an to top it off i could look out my window for half hour an see at least ten scoobies past an 1 frs MAYBE, an a cosworth once in a blue moon so yes imo the frs is 6k more car, if he wants a cheap fast popular car get a mondeo st200
ive had mine for,,,, well almost 2 years, been to the ring with it twice and used it as a daily driver and also spanked the arse off it on the motorway,,,, ive held it at between 130 to 150mph alot and the engine is fine,,, the gearbox has gone in it now but ive done around 25k miles in it and the repair bill has been brake pads, services, tyres and 1 radiator
it handles the fucking nuts but then again i have done alot to the suspension i guess
the only downside to a impreza is the fuel bill and the insurance on a STI import
if you wanna compare my impreza to a V6 mondeo PLEASE,,, honestly be real
they are ugly cars though BUT they do sometimes look good for some reason
tell me that dont look good ?
26-12-2009, 10:28 AM
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mate have you driven a impreza,,,, and i dont mean a wanky uk spec car but a actual STI impreza ???
ive had mine for,,,, well almost 2 years, been to the ring with it twice and used it as a daily driver and also spanked the arse off it on the motorway,,,, ive held it at between 130 to 150mph alot and the engine is fine,,, the gearbox has gone in it now but ive done around 25k miles in it and the repair bill has been brake pads, services, tyres and 1 radiator
it handles the fucking nuts but then again i have done alot to the suspension i guess
the only downside to a impreza is the fuel bill and the insurance on a STI import
if you wanna compare my impreza to a V6 mondeo PLEASE,,, honestly be real
they are ugly cars though BUT they do sometimes look good for some reason
tell me that dont look good ?
ive had mine for,,,, well almost 2 years, been to the ring with it twice and used it as a daily driver and also spanked the arse off it on the motorway,,,, ive held it at between 130 to 150mph alot and the engine is fine,,, the gearbox has gone in it now but ive done around 25k miles in it and the repair bill has been brake pads, services, tyres and 1 radiator
it handles the fucking nuts but then again i have done alot to the suspension i guess
the only downside to a impreza is the fuel bill and the insurance on a STI import
if you wanna compare my impreza to a V6 mondeo PLEASE,,, honestly be real
they are ugly cars though BUT they do sometimes look good for some reason
tell me that dont look good ?
26-12-2009, 10:36 AM
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missis has a wrx classic import. Standard turbo, standard injectors,standard engine and does 12s all day long is a pleasure to drive and cheap as chips and car cost less than 2.5k, nothing compares
26-12-2009, 08:32 PM
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mate have you driven a impreza,,,, and i dont mean a wanky uk spec car but a actual STI impreza ???
ive had mine for,,,, well almost 2 years, been to the ring with it twice and used it as a daily driver and also spanked the arse off it on the motorway,,,, ive held it at between 130 to 150mph alot and the engine is fine,,, the gearbox has gone in it now but ive done around 25k miles in it and the repair bill has been brake pads, services, tyres and 1 radiator
it handles the fucking nuts but then again i have done alot to the suspension i guess
the only downside to a impreza is the fuel bill and the insurance on a STI import
if you wanna compare my impreza to a V6 mondeo PLEASE,,, honestly be real
they are ugly cars though BUT they do sometimes look good for some reason
tell me that dont look good ?
ive had mine for,,,, well almost 2 years, been to the ring with it twice and used it as a daily driver and also spanked the arse off it on the motorway,,,, ive held it at between 130 to 150mph alot and the engine is fine,,, the gearbox has gone in it now but ive done around 25k miles in it and the repair bill has been brake pads, services, tyres and 1 radiator
it handles the fucking nuts but then again i have done alot to the suspension i guess
the only downside to a impreza is the fuel bill and the insurance on a STI import
if you wanna compare my impreza to a V6 mondeo PLEASE,,, honestly be real
they are ugly cars though BUT they do sometimes look good for some reason
tell me that dont look good ?
also that dont look good