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Old 17-12-2009, 11:56 AM
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Default Cosworth camcover sensor

Does it matter wich zetec sensor to use when converting a cosworth to cammcover fitted phasesensor??. It seems like there are various sensors to choose from.

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anyone??
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Finis no 6602999,and yes it is the zetec cam sensor from 1.8 0r 2.0 silvertop.
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Out of interest, how much is the sensor mount, trigger and all machine work?
Can't understand why people go to all the trouble to mount it like that as it never looks right when it can easily be done like the cvh's do when running cossie management, a disc behind the exhaust cam and a bracket off the rocker cover

Is there a reason why no ones done it that way?

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I think it look much more neat.. thats why I am interested.


I am also unsure where/who how they can do this and costs of this job all in.
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Thank you Richie.. )
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im glad you put this post up as needed to no the same thing ...thank for the help lads
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By the way Gadget... The picture you have uploaded shows a "crank"sensor install.. correct??

As far as I am aware of it is not the same as the phase sensor relocation.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Originally Posted by JanDK
By the way Gadget... The picture you have uploaded shows a "crank"sensor install.. correct??

As far as I am aware of it is not the same as the phase sensor relocation.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

your correct fella , wrong application ,

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Originally Posted by -beefy-
your correct fella , wrong application ,

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SAME application, just a different sensor! ( Look at the pulley!! ) You can still use a crank sensor for a phase sensor,
To clear up any confusion...different pic with the zetec cam sensor on the same application.







Someone give me a cossie head, cam and rocker cover and i'll mock one up!
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The sensor can be the same, but as shown the phase must be timed in right and must go on the cam as it rotates at 1/2 engine speed, if running fully sequential.
It always confuses me why they don't just use a cam lobe if drilling the covers on yb.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
The sensor can be the same, but as shown the phase must be timed in right and must go on the cam as it rotates at 1/2 engine speed, if running fully sequential.
It always confuses me why they don't just use a cam lobe if drilling the covers on yb.
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thats because the pattern definition would not show a true square wave.
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ive a trigger kit in my room ,

can post a piccy tomorrow


apologies gadget,

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Originally Posted by Gadget
Out of interest, how much is the sensor mount, trigger and all machine work?
Can't understand why people go to all the trouble to mount it like that as it never looks right when it can easily be done like the cvh's do when running cossie management, a disc behind the exhaust cam and a bracket off the rocker cover

Is there a reason why no ones done it that way?

no ones done it that way because it looks crap on a cossy cam trigger in cover is much better looking
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Originally Posted by tabetha
The sensor can be the same, but as shown the phase must be timed in right and must go on the cam as it rotates at 1/2 engine speed, if running fully sequential.
It always confuses me why they don't just use a cam lobe if drilling the covers on yb.
tabetha
would that work though as does it not have to pick up on 2 points & not 1
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I cant find the particular zetec sensor you mention Richie ?? By the way.. I dont even know wich zetecs are silver or blacktops

Are all zetec cam/crank sensors inductive???
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Gadget: I must say that it CAN look quit nice and OE like, when fitted to the cvh, but it would spoil the cosworth look if fitted to the cam pulley.
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Originally Posted by JanDK
I cant find the particular zetec sensor you mention Richie ?? By the way.. I dont even know wich zetecs are silver or blacktops

Are all zetec cam/crank sensors inductive???
if you go to a brakers yard to get one its the rocker cover that gives it away as the silver top one has a silver rocker cover and the black top has a black rocker cover its thats simple . all mk1 mondeo,s were silver top motors and they were all so in the early mk2 the latter mk2,s were the new black top motor hope this helps you some
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the reason its done in the cam cover on a yb is because its a WRC mod where they have got rid of using the dizzy! and as rally cars get covered head to toe in mud, i think they was worried about dirt egress when they considered the cvh/ecu mounting method lol
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Originally Posted by andy escos
no ones done it that way because it looks crap on a cossy cam trigger in cover is much better looking
How could it look crap? Once the cambelt cover is put back on, you'd see the multiplug and thats it.
I was only asking as it costs £25 to get a disc lazer cut, a few quid for a bracket and if needed, £5 to get the back of the pulley skimmed 3mm to move it back once the 3mm disc is fitted! So a small outlay!

Whats the cost of the wrc trigger kit? does the cam need machining to accept the trigger or is it already threaded on the end?
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The cheapest and best option is to leave it right where it is. lol
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Originally Posted by COLEYST200
if you go to a brakers yard to get one its the rocker cover that gives it away as the silver top one has a silver rocker cover and the black top has a black rocker cover its thats simple . all mk1 mondeo,s were silver top motors and they were all so in the early mk2 the latter mk2,s were the new black top motor hope this helps you some

Thanks.. just figured it out after spending 30 min using google.... but very nice to have it confirmed
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
The cheapest and best option is to leave it right where it is. lol

Cheapest is true.... also the best option??
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jano's cossie is running the phase sensor off the inlet cam pulley with a phase disk and bracket, using a cosworth crank sensor.

Similar to the conversion for a CVH 8v or a Zetec 16v. Hidden behind a cam cover you cant see it and wouldnt notice it.
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Originally Posted by Gadget
How could it look crap? Once the cambelt cover is put back on, you'd see the multiplug and thats it.
I was only asking as it costs £25 to get a disc lazer cut, a few quid for a bracket and if needed, £5 to get the back of the pulley skimmed 3mm to move it back once the 3mm disc is fitted! So a small outlay!

Whats the cost of the wrc trigger kit? does the cam need machining to accept the trigger or is it already threaded on the end?

yes the cam do need machining to take the trigger it may be dearer but i prefer the look of them proper wrc kit looks mint ,but then im biased



it cost me £5 to get mine done which was for a new trigger the rest was donated by richie (b9kos)
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