Cost of a 500bhp T4 Engine?
08-12-2009, 07:49 PM
#81
Danny have you built an engine with a roller T4 and Hart plenum, looking at the prices you listed a T4 would work out around the same as a Gt30 time you mod the manifold,external wastegate....
If i was to ever do it again i would be going to Tony or SCS as there two builders that have tried and tested packages.
If i was to ever do it again i would be going to Tony or SCS as there two builders that have tried and tested packages.
08-12-2009, 07:55 PM
#83
theres actualy a few people on here that i have done thier engines and at a bloody good deal that are still getting major abuse its just the only people that shout on here or get seen are the boys that go to scs or mad or martin...
these people want others to think something magic has been done to thier engines...
3 front cover cars in the last 18 months al with over 500bhp i built ..alot of engines people say joe stevens built i actualy built them...
i dont know who built your engine paul but i gaurantee it wont be any different inside to any other well built engine..
cheers danny
these people want others to think something magic has been done to thier engines...
3 front cover cars in the last 18 months al with over 500bhp i built ..alot of engines people say joe stevens built i actualy built them...
i dont know who built your engine paul but i gaurantee it wont be any different inside to any other well built engine..
cheers danny
yes& i one of them dannyrebuilt my old 360hp engine after i melted it drag racing i already had the head done but running t34 he rebuilt it using a mountune cooper ringed long studded 200 block cosworth forged pistons fully lightened ,balanced new high pressure oil pump all bolts plated motor painted fitted with a brand new t4 engine dynoed at field motorsport it made 500.5bhp & 420 ft lbs delivered to my door looking like new for Ł4000 & it pulls like a train & quiet regularly see,s 8500rpm (i also already had carillo h beam rods )
so thank you danny & luke .forgot to mention that was at 24psi boost so loads more to come it used to run 40+psi .
Last edited by andy escos; 08-12-2009 at 08:15 PM.
08-12-2009, 08:00 PM
#85
Danny have you built an engine with a roller T4 and Hart plenum, looking at the prices you listed a T4 would work out around the same as a Gt30 time you mod the manifold,external wastegate....
If i was to ever do it again i would be going to Tony or SCS as there two builders that have tried and tested packages.
If i was to ever do it again i would be going to Tony or SCS as there two builders that have tried and tested packages.
i like t4s as iv said but find the gt30 much nicer from a lower rpm and hence better to drive also you then have a seperate waste gate wich is far supperior to a piece of shit actuator and better to control boost...
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 08:04 PM
#86
yes& i one of them dannyrebuilt my old 360hp engine after i melted it drag racing i already had the head done but running t34 he rebuilt it using a mountune cooper ringed long studded 200 block cosworth forged pistons fully lightened ,balanced new high pressure oil pump all bolts plated motor painted fitted with a brand new t4 engine dynoed at field motorsport it made 500.5bhp & 420 ft lbs delivered to my door looking like new for Ł4000 & it pulls like a train & quiet regularly see,s 8500rpm (i also already had carillo h beam rods )so thank you danny & luke .
so thank you danny & luke .your car is awesome and so is your engine, fucking flies!!!!!
i had an arguement over your engine as they said joe built it..lol
ps youve made your engine bay look awesome!!!
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 08:06 PM
#87
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yes& i one of them dannyrebuilt my old 360hp engine after i melted it drag racing i already had the head done but running t34 he rebuilt it using a mountune cooper ringed long studded 200 block cosworth forged pistons fully lightened ,balanced new high pressure oil pump all bolts plated motor painted fitted with a brand new t4 engine dynoed at field motorsport it made 500.5bhp & 420 ft lbs delivered to my door looking like new for Ł4000 & it pulls like a train & quiet regularly see,s 8500rpm (i also already had carillo h beam rods )so thank you danny & luke .
so thank you danny & luke .Amazing stuff so we now got it down to 4k = 500bhp
What will 6.5k engine produce ??????
08-12-2009, 08:11 PM
#89
its funny you always seem to turn up on any thread im in and chirp up!if youve got anything to say just come out and say it????
does any one know this joker grchmason????
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 08:14 PM
#90
Advanced PassionFord User
if you read hes post properly youl see he states he already had some very nice components!!!!
its funny you always seem to turn up on any thread im in and chirp up!if youve got anything to say just come out and say it????
does any one know this joker grchmason????
cheers danny
its funny you always seem to turn up on any thread im in and chirp up!if youve got anything to say just come out and say it????
does any one know this joker grchmason????
cheers danny
Sorry if i have upset you
08-12-2009, 08:21 PM
#96
Advanced PassionFord User
08-12-2009, 08:24 PM
#97
08-12-2009, 08:34 PM
#99
08-12-2009, 08:46 PM
#101
08-12-2009, 09:21 PM
#103
lol
yeh, and i would spec spring rates for a normally aspirated engine revving to 19k for my 500hop engine that revs to 8k
though, in your defence i do know what you mean, and also (cant believe im agreeing with you )
inside of these big hp engines is nothing special, i have had a couple of SCS motor apart, yes they do the business, produce the goods and do what the customer asked, so why people would want to spend more than they have to to get the results i do not know.
buyinging a apart from me or from a well known tuner does not make it more reliable.
also paying more does very rarely give you more.
08-12-2009, 09:24 PM
#104
oh and i would love to drag a few very old posts up, maybe like 5/6 years ago, when I was running high comp engines (in public - ran my first 400hp 9.0:1 about 10 years ago) looks like your catching up eventually 500hp on 8.6 though that had to be on 7.5 
though that had to be on 7.5
08-12-2009, 09:29 PM
#105
you could meet these ppl and never know..thats why i like to meet ppl at the shows and stuff...atleast then you know who your talking to..im just normal like when i met you and beefy and that,it was good to know there is some good ppl on here and maybe ppl will think im ok to once theyve met me???im the same when i meet you,if i think your talking shit or i dont agree i just say so its only mho thats all....
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 09:35 PM
#106
lol
yeh, and i would spec spring rates for a normally aspirated engine revving to 19k for my 500hop engine that revs to 8k
though, in your defence i do know what you mean, and also (cant believe im agreeing with you )
inside of these big hp engines is nothing special, i have had a couple of SCS motor apart, yes they do the business, produce the goods and do what the customer asked, so why people would want to spend more than they have to to get the results i do not know.
buyinging a apart from me or from a well known tuner does not make it more reliable.
also paying more does very rarely give you more.
yeh, and i would spec spring rates for a normally aspirated engine revving to 19k for my 500hop engine that revs to 8k
though, in your defence i do know what you mean, and also (cant believe im agreeing with you )
inside of these big hp engines is nothing special, i have had a couple of SCS motor apart, yes they do the business, produce the goods and do what the customer asked, so why people would want to spend more than they have to to get the results i do not know.
buyinging a apart from me or from a well known tuner does not make it more reliable.
also paying more does very rarely give you more.
i said f1 spec not f1 springs....
mind you if you spent 8k plus with someone you wouldnt like the thought it could be done exactly the same for a lot less ah???
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 10:00 PM
#113
its a shame because the owner hasnt given us any funds so nothing happening...
the engine spec was going to be a nikasil block high cr strocker kit 2180 cc big port head solid lifters 11.5mm lift inlet cam 10mm ex
hart plenum borg warner turbo rs 200 wastegate f88 rs life racing management and custom loom etc mapped on race fuel
might still build the lump for something when iv got some spare cash..lol..
cheers danny
the engine spec was going to be a nikasil block high cr strocker kit 2180 cc big port head solid lifters 11.5mm lift inlet cam 10mm ex
hart plenum borg warner turbo rs 200 wastegate f88 rs life racing management and custom loom etc mapped on race fuel
might still build the lump for something when iv got some spare cash..lol..
cheers danny
08-12-2009, 10:44 PM
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08-12-2009, 10:51 PM
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08-12-2009, 11:11 PM
#119
any decent builder should know the details of what it takes to get to a certain level of tune etc..
an engine build is an engine build...everything is measured up the same etc...
imo, its all down to the mapping that makes the engine good and reliable.
an engine build is an engine build...everything is measured up the same etc...
imo, its all down to the mapping that makes the engine good and reliable.
08-12-2009, 11:14 PM
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Finally somebody who isn't a sheep who follows the "click" on here, glad to see danny voicing a worthwhile opinion, experiences and facts with only minor bitching.