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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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What do you need for a reliable safe 330bhp on a yb?

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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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STD YB, Greens, 3 Bar MAP sensor & suitable chip, possibly a S/S exhaust
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Fuel pump if its an Escort Cos + the items mentioned above. Possibly an Actuator depending on state of the one currently fitted.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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breather system, clutch
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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I'd prefer to run a standard clutch on 330 horse as its a lot nicer to drive. They may not last as long but lot nicer. Your engine won't require any internal mods as the YB is a de tuned engine any way.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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What if its a small turbo escort cossie?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy_RST
What if its a small turbo escort cossie?
in short, convert it to big turbo, lol

or wait untill Stu has finished the thingymebob for the eeciv
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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I would like to build an engine for my 3 door someday, aprox 330-350 bhp. So a shoppinglist would be nice

So far on my list:

- 200 block (want to do the rebuild myself)
- greens
- 3 bar map sensor
- mongoose exhaust
- good chip (wich one?)
- rebuild T3
- -31 actuator

Are updated fuel / oilpump needed? and a breather kit?

Any comment is welcome
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Roy, T34.48 would suit better mate if going for 350, it,d be REALLY punchy too, re-wire your fuel pump that,ll do the job, Head Gasket and again i,d go for a clutch if looking for 350...

Or just go for the NMS Gunship, i can highly recommend it

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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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how about adding a decent head gasket to all those lists to be safe??
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
how about adding a decent head gasket to all those lists to be safe??
I just edited to that, great minds and all that...
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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-Standard YB
-GRP A head gasket
-T34
-Greens
-Breather
-4x4 cooler (minimum)
-Chip (MSD or similar)
-Clutch
-3 Map bar Sensor
--31 actuator

that's if you want a genuine stage 3
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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thing is for the cost its worth it. can you imagine a potentially 80k miles 20 year old cossie head gasket being too pleased with loads of boost
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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I didn't think cossies needed so much work to get that sort of power?
so i take it all those mags featured cossies that only had a chip were no way close to 300bhp then?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by morph
I didn't think cossies needed so much work to get that sort of power?
so i take it all those mags featured cossies that only had a chip were no way close to 300bhp then?
T3 will do around 300-320, Twellsies made 326bhp/ 356lb/ft on Martins Roller with the gunship..

But generally folks change to a T34 for going 330+, again different housings, injectors to suit your level of tune.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by morph
I didn't think cossies needed so much work to get that sort of power?
so i take it all those mags featured cossies that only had a chip were no way close to 300bhp then?
you could make it do 330hp with:

greens
3 map bar
t3
standard intercooler
chip
gob load of boost

but how long is it going to last?; t3 will be screaming, the engine wont breath properly, ACT will be high, the head gasket will shit itself, the clutch might slip, shit chip which over fuels or runs lean....etc

so if your going to do it, do it properly or it will all end in tears. This is why cossie's got a reputation it didnt deserve. Bill & Ben the flower pot men doing what i've just typed on a sunday afternoon in their shed.

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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
Bill & Ben the flower pot men doing what i've just typed on a sunday afternoon in their shed.

PMSL @ Matt........
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
PMSL @ Matt........
Funnily enough Pete, my real name is Bill and my brother is Ben; so when you bringing your 3 door down for a "tune"?!
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
Funnily enough Pete, my real name is Bill and my brother is Ben; so when you bringing your 3 door down for a "tune"?!
When my T3 EXPLODES Bill...........
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
When my T3 EXPLODES Bill...........
you keep launching and it's only a matter of time!
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
you keep launching and it's only a matter of time!

I know, lol.... and a small matter of 27psi going though a T3 too...
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
I know, lol.... and a small matter of 27psi going though a T3 too...
good man!
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Thanks for the awnsers guys
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The guy did ask for reliable and safe so over speccing it and not running componants at thier max is wise.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
The guy did ask for reliable and safe so over speccing it and not running componants at thier max is wise.

But it wouldn,t be PF if we left a thread completely un-abused...
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Ok

just fit a bleed valve, some greens and turn the boost to max
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy_RST
What if its a small turbo escort cossie?
Speak to Stu @ MSD, currently 300BHP is the limit for now.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
Ok

just fit a bleed valve, some greens and turn the boost to max
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
Speak to Stu @ MSD, currently 300BHP is the limit for now.
Tbh id rather just start with a T3 or bigger.

To have the gunship done, its says on the nms website that the engine has to of been rebuilt?
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330BHP would be better on a larger turbo such as T34, not sure about rebuilding of engine, just as long as the engine is healthy. Gunship stresses components massivly, the standard injectors for example will be over 90% duty hence why engine/components need to be healthy.


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s/s exhaust
air filter
standard yb engine
grp A heagasket
Dark green "803"s injectors or 55lb black seimens
-31 actuator
3 bar map sensor
T3 turbo in tip top condition or a T34.48
4x4 intercooler or rs500 style intercooler
oil breather
standard clutch or for peice of mind 6 paddle clutch plate with standard cover!
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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It might help if you told us what Cossie you're referring to as the mods required will be different depending on what your starting point is.
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my 2wd saph made 333.2 peaking 26 holding 21 with equal torque

low milage bottom end
A1 stage 3 chip
group a head gasket
air filter off my s2
greens
3bar
t34.48
radtec 500 cooler
ryan engine loom
re wired 044 pump
mongoose full system
ford standard clutch

and went like fuck

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Greens, Suitable chip, good 500 IC, 3 bar, T34.63 (dont think i've saw a genuine 330bhp with a .48 but no doubt everyone else has) 3" exhaust, std airbox, -31 and 28psi oh and some BCR 8ES for some good sparkage.

As above, if an escos, uprated walbro...
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^^^

no genuine 330 with t34.48
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Greens, Suitable chip, good 500 IC, 3 bar, T34.63 (dont think i've saw a genuine 330bhp with a .48 but no doubt everyone else has) 3" exhaust, std airbox, -31 and 28psi oh and some BCR 8ES for some good sparkage.

As above, if an escos, uprated walbro...

.48 should piss 330 imho!although greens wont cope with 28psi of held pressure
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Every compressor map I've seen of a T34 .48 should make 330 all day long.
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Mechanic28, 28psi not held just peak. wether greens would be able to hold 28psi I dont know...

Pacwest, know feck all about comp maps, all I can go by is what i've witnessed on numerous cars...


figures do seem to rise south of the border tho

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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Mechanic28, 28psi not held just peak. wether greens would be able to hold 28psi I dont know...

Pacwest, know feck all about comp maps, all I can go by is what i've witnessed on numerous cars...

fair play i doubt greens would be able to supply enough fuel at 28psi,they seem to start to throw a wobbly at 23psi lol!
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
s/s exhaust
air filter
standard yb engine
grp A heagasket
Dark green "803"s injectors
-31 actuator
3 bar map sensor
T3 turbo in tip top condition
4x4 intercooler
oil breather
6 paddle clutch plate with standard cover!
My Spec exactly Doug, well apart from my Turbo is a Stage 2 TT T3 with 360 thrust..
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