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Old 27-11-2009, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
My Spec exactly Doug, well apart from my Turbo is a Stage 2 TT T3 with 360 thrust..

I am good aint i pete!
Old 27-11-2009, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Mechanic28, 28psi not held just peak. wether greens would be able to hold 28psi I dont know...

Pacwest, know feck all about comp maps, all I can go by is what i've witnessed on numerous cars...


figures do seem to rise south of the border tho
best ive seen 4x4 stg 3 is 275@wheels and 2wd 290@wheels. both considered good 330bhp conversions
Old 27-11-2009, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
I am good aint i pete!
Not bad, mind you, you,ve gotten most of your YB Kowledge from me that,s why.....

PS, greens will piss 330bhp too........
Old 27-11-2009, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
Not bad, mind you, you,ve gotten most of your YB Kowledge from me that,s why.....

PS, greens will piss 330bhp too........

I will buy you a cake when we meet up as i thank you for sharing your yb knowledge

Dont doubt greens can do 330 easy just cant seem them coping with 28psi all the way through the revs
Old 27-11-2009, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
I will buy you a cake when we meet up as i thank you for sharing your yb knowledge
Aslong as it,s Bakewell Tart mate...
Old 27-11-2009, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
Aslong as it,s Bakewell Tart mate...

mr kiplings?
Old 27-11-2009, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
mr kiplings?
You know it mate....

With a cup of coffee too.....Hmmmm...
Old 27-11-2009, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
You know it mate....

With a cup of coffee too.....Hmmmm...

sod off you bring ya own coffee!mines tea btw
Old 27-11-2009, 10:25 PM
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Doug, so are you bringing the beast to Central Day @ Pod next year?? date is set now, April 18th, get yourself there fella....

Convoy up with the train driver....
Old 27-11-2009, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JamboRST
best ive seen 4x4 stg 3 is 275@wheels and 2wd 290@wheels. both considered good 330bhp conversions
Yea thats similar to what I've seen also Jamie, maybe slightly higher!
Old 27-11-2009, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JamboRST
best ive seen 4x4 stg 3 is 275@wheels and 2wd 290@wheels. both considered good 330bhp conversions
So would we say another 15bhp or so then for RWD ???

I never quite know total transmission loss on 4x4s
Old 27-11-2009, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
Doug, so are you bringing the beast to Central Day @ Pod next year?? date is set now, April 18th, get yourself there fella....

Convoy up with the train driver....

doubt i will be going to that pete
Old 27-11-2009, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
So would we say another 15bhp or so then for RWD ???

I never quite know total transmission loss on 4x4s

generally i think rwd loss is around 35-45bhp 4x4 55-75bhp loss
Old 27-11-2009, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
generally i think rwd loss is around 35-45bhp 4x4 55-75bhp loss
75bhp might be a tad much,prob the 60 mark is nearer for 4wd.
even 45 for 2wd is maybe a bit much

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Old 28-11-2009, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
generally i think rwd loss is around 35-45bhp 4x4 55-75bhp loss
Really Doug??

Didn,t think it was that much tbh mate....
Old 28-11-2009, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
It might help if you told us what Cossie you're referring to as the mods required will be different depending on what your starting point is.
I'm not referring to any. I just need to ask these questions because i will be buying one in the new year. So if i find out which easiest to tune then i wont make a mistake.
Old 28-11-2009, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
Really Doug??

Didn,t think it was that much tbh mate....

could well not be pete just a stab in the dark
Old 28-11-2009, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pacwest
Every compressor map I've seen of a T34 .48 should make 330 all day long.

my saff made 370bhp, 420lb/ft at 36psi on a T34.48 couldnt get any more, that was its limit, on 55lb siemens, the wastegate is there simply to control the spike in boost, as soon as thats done its pinned closed all the way to limiter.
the boost gradually tails off as rpm climbs as the engine eats all the boost the baby T34 can make,you normally end up with around 20psi at the limiter.

i would skip greens i dive in for this instead!

oh, dont forget some spark plugs on the list lol, 071c or similar heat range
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james just a quick question but what do u think is the limit for a T34. 55? Car has alcon 6 paddle, big intercooler, stainless, breather.. Etc etc
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Originally Posted by RSGARETHW
james just a quick question but what do u think is the limit for a T34. 55? Car has alcon 6 paddle, big intercooler, stainless, breather.. Etc etc
You,d see 370+ easy on a .55 Housing Gareth...

What Injectors are you running ??
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none! Engine is still in my conservatory. But is built ready to go in car... U don't live far from me do u staffi.. Do u know tev? Probably go blacks but not 100% ...
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Originally Posted by RSGARETHW
james just a quick question but what do u think is the limit for a T34. 55? Car has alcon 6 paddle, big intercooler, stainless, breather.. Etc etc


depends how hard you run it, 370 should be in reach,
i wouldnt advise people to push them to the limit like i did, was just a bit of fun really
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
...on 55lb siemens...
i would skip greens i dive in for this instead!

You think the siemens have a better spray pattern or just deliver constant flow when at a high duty cycle?

What was your spec at this level? I wouldn't mind replicating it and the map, but dialling the boost down a bit to keep it alive.
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the 55s are a tad bigger than greys, so much bigger than greens.

greens will lean out on a T34, so you cant run the turbo flat out on them.

we do off the shelf packages for the 55lbers to suit a standard spec engine and they are perfect!

55s are cheaper than greens new aswell
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my spec was,

slghtly lowered C/R 7.5:1,

custom ported head and inlet by me to my own spec,

std cams dialled to my spec,

4x4 ex manifold,

247 shafted T34.48, -31 act.

044 pump,

55s

MSD closed loop L 8 software,

rs500 sized cooler,

mongoose exhaust,

plus the other usual bits. did 75k miles in 3 years on that motor at 36psi peak, never missed a beat


and a bara box as it smashed std boxes on command lol

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so even if that was possible on a T34.48, your spec WASNT Stg 3 anyway? :P

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as i said the package is available for a completly std yb, a t34.63 will make a minimum of 380bhp on that, a t34.48 wll be arounfd 360bhp, and shed loads of torque

imo stage 3 should be 55s these days, greens are to small and are to expensive

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indeed. Gone are the days of naming the injectors by colour. Greens, greys etc. The up to date stuff is far better and by the sounds of it as James said cheaper. especially as msd do off the shelf chips for em as well
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
as i said the package is available for a completly std yb, a t34.63 will make a minimum of 380bhp on that, a t34.48 wll be arounfd 360bhp, and shed loads of torque

imo stage 3 should be 55s these days, greens are to small and are to expensive

What if i want to go from greens to 55s, do i need a new chip or can you rewrite it??
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Im on greys, t34.48 and holding 28 all the way through, it runs perfect ive been thinking about going siemens but i dont think id atchualy gain anything

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Originally Posted by MARCOSWORTH
What if i want to go from greens to 55s, do i need a new chip or can you rewrite it??
new chip i'm afraid
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I have been told that my escos is 330BHP it has these components, would it be right.?

3 BAR map sensor.
light blues.
3 inch decat exhaust.
RS 500 style cooler.
standard yb as far as i know.
standard turbo for big T escos as far as i know
unsure what actuator it has.
Mountune chip. FR,1 pectel baby board with 2 other chips, (1) p8v1 and (2) mtune v1

what do you think...
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Originally Posted by ossie cossie
I have been told that my escos is 330BHP it has these components, would it be right.?

3 BAR map sensor.
light blues.
3 inch decat exhaust.
RS 500 style cooler.
standard yb as far as i know.
standard turbo for big T escos as far as i know
unsure what actuator it has.
Mountune chip. FR,1 pectel baby board with 2 other chips, (1) p8v1 and (2) mtune v1

what do you think...
Sounds reasonable to me yes, what boost are you running by the way??
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This may sound a bit dumb but how do you know? do you just look at the gauge in the dash, to be honest i have never really looked, i know it sounds dumb, but i just haven,t. However i will check it out next time i drive it.
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just check on ya boost gauge fella when you boot it should be around the 20-23psi mark (around 1.5 bar)
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The other question is, where do i go from here. whats the next best upgrades that wont put too much stress on the engine and are relativly cheep.
Like would i benefit from say a 2wd exhaust manifold, plenum spacer, different throttle body, small turbo plenum, swirl pot, different actuator? whats the next best turbo upgrade as well.
Also injectors would greys be worth getting? I am going to get the head of it soon so what would be a good headgasket to put on it.
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I have a standard boost gauge it only goes to 1.3 i think is that ok.
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I am interested as my MRS car has 415BHP and i just have to have more than her...
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Originally Posted by ossie cossie
I have a standard boost gauge it only goes to 1.3 i think is that ok.

it should pull off the gauge although it does depends on whos chip it is and what boost they have written into it !but should be very min 1.3bar
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Originally Posted by ossie cossie
I am interested as my MRS car has 415BHP and i just have to have more than her...
wont have that bhp on stage 3 matey


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