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Old 26-11-2009, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ollie.
Chip the scottish lads as you seem to keep calling us are saying get in on the RR at 1.9 bar. No one said once about turning the boost up.


Dave go and borrow a set of balls off someone and put your car where your mouth is.
F**king belter





Sen it on the lot of ye's
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Old 26-11-2009, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cossiemaster
F**king belter





Sen it on the lot of ye's


Oh here we go another one,


Ha Ha Ha
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This topic really makes me laugh, all the dreamers, wanabes, dad sons and arse lickers


Well this really has been a good day, you have all shown how bad you lot really are and l couldnt give a fuck about what you have to say because your all experts and me l know fuck all.

So carry on if you like, but your make even more pratts of yourselfs

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Old 26-11-2009, 04:37 PM
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no way i'd stick my motor on the rollers right before stripping it, look at the graph the proof there should be enough its a stupidly quick car simple as. I too think it would be interesting to see what power it would make at full boost but if I was in dave's position no-way would I run it.
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Old 26-11-2009, 04:40 PM
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Wow there are some right Cunts on this forum. Dave has called it a day, So what? He still would have owned one of the nicest and fastest Escos. I know from reading his Rebuild posts and Mag Features he has put alot of cash into the motor but why should he keep splashing out? Let alone for 6mph more.

Alot of people on this site have given up on building the fastest Ford simply because it gets silly and money you don't have to spend gets spent. A lot of people on this forum have just bought a car they can use and be happy. Now Dave calls it quits and wants to buy a motor he can use, you guys are all giving him shit about it. WTF???
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Old 26-11-2009, 04:47 PM
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Dave,

Ignore the cretins and dreamers on here.

Do you need a hand pulling the beast apart at the weekend?
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Hi Rich,
Thought I would pop up and add my 2 pence worth .

I am SO embarrassed that I used to be like Chip STILL is . If I EVER get like that again, please, someone just shoot me .

Dave,
I totally respect your decision, although I too would love to see what it makes at 1.9 bar (which is plenty enough boost IMO). However, the only person you should be listening to in regard to the mapping issues is Mark, and if Mark says it is okay to do the rolling road day, and you WANT to do it, then do it. If he says don't, then obviously don't allow yourself to be backed into a corner to do something that may rbe financially risky. It's your car, your engine, your money, your life and Mark is the ONLY person who should be giving you advice on this decision.

Even of he says it's okay to run at 1.9 bar and you don't want to - fuck 'em, again, it's YOUR choice, no-one elses .

I now look forward to my arguement with Rich, I hope it is a five minute one though, as that is what I paid for .
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Dave,

Ignore the cretins and dreamers on here.

Do you need a hand pulling the beast apart at the weekend?

I give you a call later


Cheers
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Old 26-11-2009, 04:50 PM
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For what its worth (coming from me) Good luck with the sale, and I hope the clio brings you much entertainment, I've heard they are nice cars to drive.
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Michael is here. Stand up striaght and salute. Not a mention of TUV or Harvey. Maybe old age has mellowed you a bit Mike
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Old 26-11-2009, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MarK4
no way i'd stick my motor on the rollers right before stripping it, look at the graph the proof there should be enough its a stupidly quick car simple as. I too think it would be interesting to see what power it would make at full boost but if I was in dave's position no-way would I run it.
yeah the graph proves that it will blow a gasket at that power (or o ring or whatever)

the engine is not proven at the graphed power
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Michael is here. Stand up striaght and salute. Not a mention of TUV or Harvey. Maybe old age has mellowed you a bit Mike
I've been mellow for several years, it's just that you haven't noticed and still insist on dragging up the past, yet get upset when a certain BR does the same .

Anyway, much love and that is all from me, apart from it continues to make me smile that Chip is still so fascinated with my paltry 500bhp .
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Old 26-11-2009, 04:58 PM
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Rod you have spelt "Competitive" wrong in your sig
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Old 26-11-2009, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Hi Rich,
Thought I would pop up and add my 2 pence worth .

I am SO embarrassed that I used to be like Chip STILL is . If I EVER get like that again, please, someone just shoot me .

Dave,
I totally respect your decision, although I too would love to see what it makes at 1.9 bar (which is plenty enough boost IMO). However, the only person you should be listening to in regard to the mapping issues is Mark, and if Mark says it is okay to do the rolling road day, and you WANT to do it, then do it. If he says don't, then obviously don't allow yourself to be backed into a corner to do something that may rbe financially risky. It's your car, your engine, your money, your life and Mark is the ONLY person who should be giving you advice on this decision.

Even of he says it's okay to run at 1.9 bar and you don't want to - fuck 'em, again, it's YOUR choice, no-one elses .

I now look forward to my arguement with Rich, I hope it is a five minute one though, as that is what I paid for .
agreed mike but im not sure if the pratts who think they are the ford scene will agree
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Old 26-11-2009, 05:28 PM
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can i just ask though what was the point off rebuilding with more power if you were scared off the box letting go? genuine question
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Old 26-11-2009, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I've been mellow for several years, it's just that you haven't noticed and still insist on dragging up the past, yet get upset when a certain BR does the same .

Anyway, much love and that is all from me, apart from it continues to make me smile that Chip is still so fascinated with my paltry 500bhp .
Mike,

I didnt once get upset at BR. In fact he got so upset that he repeatedly asked for me to be banned not once did i moan or complain

Anyway im only joking with you
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Originally Posted by BadAss Focus
yeah the graph proves that it will blow a gasket at that power (or o ring or whatever)

the engine is not proven at the graphed power
What a constructive comment. Please give this guy a hand!

Well done dave get youre money out, There is always a day to call it a day the clever ones realise and escape with atleast some cash left.
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Old 26-11-2009, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by saph4be
can i just ask though what was the point off rebuilding with more power if you were scared off the box letting go? genuine question
Because he wanted to break 200mph barrier.

Im sure this has been covered.

Hes now changed his mind and doesnt want to anymore.

Its his party!
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Old 26-11-2009, 05:33 PM
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i want to see the doubters post there acheivements, lets see how many replies i get
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Old 26-11-2009, 05:34 PM
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Permission to exclude myself from the "scottish cunt" brigade?
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Permission to exclude myself from the "scottish cunt" brigade?
Rog you are now a honary english cunt when you feel the need
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Rog you are now a honary english cunt when you feel the need


Cheers!!!!
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Old 26-11-2009, 06:07 PM
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Dave good luck breaking it mate, been an animal of a car.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
chip, dont say we dont care about our engine once they leave the dyno cause thats not fair, all engines will get a check in the car, mainly the point down low the top end full boost points are 99% right,

andrew dosnt care how drivable the car is he dosnt go shopping in it...
its at idle or its at 5500-8500rpm as per...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8JUjSH4APA

this goes on for between 10-20 laps... and that rev range is between 6-800hp, so i dont think he's going to be having any problems with how the engine is mapped after the dyno

how come any runs the water temp so low and only runs his throttle at 83% ??
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Old 26-11-2009, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
how come any runs the water temp so low and only runs his throttle at 83% ??

i think thats the system he uses maybe not reading right ? if you looked at the data logging on the t6 ecu it would be 110degrees ish water and 90ish % throttle
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
i think thats the system he uses maybe not reading right ? if you looked at the data logging on the t6 ecu it would be 110degrees ish water and 90ish % throttle

his dash is reading exactally what the ecu is getting i know as i have the same data logging set-up

why the 90% throttle ?

does he run a little less on non race days or something
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
Rod you have spelt "Competitive" wrong in your sig
yep!!!
Your the 3rd
Did lots of them some time back & dont read them in detail anyway i cant sepll.
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Old 26-11-2009, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MadRod
yep!!!
Your the 3rd
Did lots of them some time back & dont read them in detail anyway i cant sepll.
Will you use that excuse if you 'only' get to 214mph?
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So is it going on the Dyno then?

On a serious note there is allot of people that would like to see / hear about this run on the dyno and would be a good send off for Dave to see his hard work in action and showing up the doubters one last time surely also being some more good publicity for Mark and his team?

How about a few of us will put cash down to 'safe guard' the box in the event of a failure, and if it goes bang Andy can buy it off the other parties to use for his van??
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Old 26-11-2009, 07:12 PM
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cant belive some people on here,all the bitching its like a school playground.

why is everyone so intrested in what he decides to do? certain people really come across as if they enjoy watching other peoples misfortune
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Anyway, much love and that is all from me, apart from it continues to make me smile that Chip is still so fascinated with my paltry 500bhp .
Yes I'm mildy interested Mike, as I would be with any 500bhp or there abouts engine, makes no difference to me who owns it though.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
i think thats the system he uses maybe not reading right ? if you looked at the data logging on the t6 ecu it would be 110degrees ish water and 90ish % throttle
Its more likely that its not correctly configured in the ECU
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Originally Posted by nmmfast
cant belive some people on here,all the bitching its like a school playground.

why is everyone so intrested in what he decides to do? certain people really come across as if they enjoy watching other peoples misfortune
We do.

(one of the 'Scottish lads')
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Some of these posts have made me laughand you know who you are,Daves engine is more than able to run full boost and I am happy it running it but his gearbox may or may not like it and its down to Dave if he wants to run it,
Any one who goes straight from the dyno to the car without checking it needs his head read, All my engines have locked ecu's with lower boost and rev limits unit I check them this stops problems,
It has been mapped at full boost but not checked in the car so it wont be running it until it is checked and made sure its safe,
If anyone thinks the head gasket is dodgy on it needs to look at Rods pre engine to show it works and is safe at full power and 206mph and 250hp of noz as it was last run,
The head gasket problem we had on the dyno was my fault on the race fuel map and nothing more learnt a lot that day and the other days with Rods current engine and more than 99.999999% of current pf users but there will always be someone who thinks they know more,
Dave I think you are best off out of PF as you are a target for them to aim at,
The reason I want to run the car before it went to Martins for a power run is to make sure 1 it is safe running it on the RR as currnetly it has not been run on one, and the other to check what the accutall power the the car is currently running at 1.9bar or whatever boost it is to run.

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its 100% right to check the engine at full boost in car because it will defo be slightly different from the dyno run and could cause major misfortune....but in all honesty it should only take a few alterations and wouldnt take long so i cant see what all the fuss is about...but as dave has made hes mind up to break and sell it all what is the point in running it on the rr???after all the engine is being split so it makes no difference to the buyer of the engine and i dont suppose it matters to dave if it makes 600 bhp or 800 bhp as hes selling it...its hes car/engine etc so its up to him...maybe mark could gaurantee the engine to the new owner if he were to map it if hes so confident of it???
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Some of these posts have made me laughand you know who you are,Daves engine is more than able to run full boost and I am happy it running it but his gearbox may or may not like it and its down to Dave if he wants to run it,
Any one who goes straight from the dyno to the car without checking it needs his head read, All my engines have locked ecu's with lower boost and rev limits unit I check them this stops problems,
It has been mapped at full boost but not checked in the car so it wont be running it until it is checked and made sure its safe,
If anyone thinks the head gasket is dodgy on it needs to look at Rods pre engine to show it works and is safe at full power and 206mph and 250hp of noz as it was last run,
The head gasket problem we had on the dyno was my fault on the race fuel map and nothing more learnt a lot that day and the other days with Rods current engine and more than 99.999999% of current pf users but there will always be someone who thinks they know more,
Dave I think you are best off out of PF as you are a target for them to aim at,
The reason I want to run the car before it went to Martins for a power run is to make sure 1 it is safe running it on the RR as currnetly it has not been run on one, and the other to check what the accutall power the the car is currently running at 1.9bar or whatever boost it is to run.

Mark
chips been tring to explain that for the past 9 pages mark

people still don't get it so don't waste your time tring to tell them that they need to spend £xx,000 on bits and bobs before they are in the same situation and can make a decision on the matter
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Originally Posted by b19 dfp
its 100% right to check the engine at full boost in car because it will defo be slightly different from the dyno run and could cause major misfortune....but in all honesty it should only take a few alterations and wouldnt take long so i cant see what all the fuss is about...but as dave has made hes mind up to break and sell it all what is the point in running it on the rr???after all the engine is being split so it makes no difference to the buyer of the engine and i dont suppose it matters to dave if it makes 600 bhp or 800 bhp as hes selling it...its hes car/engine etc so its up to him...maybe mark could gaurantee the engine to the new owner if he were to map it if hes so confident of it???
cheers danny
BUT

if he's selling the engine on it's own, you still need to have the turbo and pipes and inlet and ecu and everythign else to the same spec as dave currently has for it to be the "same" set up

and even then, he'd still need to check it over to make sure it was safe to make the power it's capable of making
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I've been mellow for several years, it's just that you haven't noticed and still insist on dragging up the past, yet get upset when a certain BR does the same .

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Ah!! the past.
Stopped my jousting with Martin when he ran 200mph & put his car where his mouth had been. Not even had a car for 4years so talk of 200mph runs stopped ages back. Still get ' bashing on about 200mph though' , think its over 2 years since i last posted like that, i now only answer when asked.
You cant destroy the former you Mike you are stuck with it same as i am, anyway has Harveys got TVU approval yet .
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Originally Posted by dojj
BUT

if he's selling the engine on it's own, you still need to have the turbo and pipes and inlet and ecu and everythign else to the same spec as dave currently has for it to be the "same" set up

and even then, he'd still need to check it over to make sure it was safe to make the power it's capable of making
hence why i said mark maps it.....i cant see someone buying that engine just to put a gt 30 on it as it would be tottaly over engineered for that so it should at least run 600 bhp and if mark gauranteed it it would stop people thinking it was ready to blow etc...
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