It's Czech Mate

Thinking of buying one, what kind of running costs are you having?

Fuel Consumption
Servicing

Not decided on new or used so what are the main problems folks are having with them? Any common faults?

I know theres plenty of owners on here so hoping for a good thread

Thanks in advance for your help
Also could you state age of car, how long owned ta

Diseasel

Servicing is reasonable,fuel consumption is bad i never seen any better than 23 MPG, other than going through front tyres quickly never had a problem with mine although the Ford paint job is shite

Rollinz

just buy an RS. u'll always look at an RS and think.... i wish i'd of gone for that

:stir:

It's Czech Mate

No I wont

RichieST

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Had mine a week now and i fucking love it to bits! Drive it sensibly and it will do over 300 miles to a tank of fuel, which is what my old st170 used to do. Start caning it though and it don't half drink, i did half a tank in 100 miles

Its really comfy, and just a bloody nice place to be. A friend of mine has had a couple of comfy cruisers and a stripped out 240bhp clio williams, and he says that the st is the best of both words, goes like shit off a shovel when you want it to, and cruises in comfort and reasonable economy too.

Get one bought, you won't regret it!

Paulo P

I've had mine nearly a year now and it's great car

As said above it's comfortable and once remapped they go really well. Mine is on a dreamscience remap and at the moment I'm averaging 27mpg, on a run you can see well over 30mpg and I've seen an average of nearly 40mpg on one journey! If you are super sensible you can get as much as 400 miles out of a tank, it was a bloody boring test though

Servicing isn't expensive, I just had my 37,500 one done and it cost me £80 in parts and £50 in labour for rapidfit to do it

Build quality seems to be good, you hear of the odd creak or rattle inside but it's great by Ford's standards.

If you get one I would recommend changing to the Eibach springs, it makes the car handle and feel like it should have done from the factory

bud-weis

I like them, wouldnt buy new though...not a chance!

Fuel consumption sounds awful for such a mild car!

FasterFords

Best car I've owned and for the longest , and I'm still happy after 2 years. Normally I've changed them after 1 year max.

Get around 30mpg out of mine if kept to legal speeds.

Gearbox did get replaced on mine at 13k however, the remap may have not helped there though.

It's Czech Mate

I wont be buying a new one, i'm not that mental!!!! ...i'm either having one as a company car or taking the cash and buying a 2-3 year old or slightly older super low mileage one

bogbairn

Just got mine a couple of weeks ago, great car ...as mentioned before though the petrol light seems to be on alot lol getting a bluefin stage 1 remap shortly which adds to the fun!!

wirralphil

Don't the Alternators go on these? Sure i read it on here???

j6kyt

We have had ours 18 months and its great 27 mpg on average 13000 miles out of the front tyres so not too bad i dont think. also the second service is only £174.03 a very good car all round get one bought.

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Had my 60000 miles 05 model ST-3 for 3 years now and its only needed a new alternator a few months ago.

Yes its a bit bad on fuel but everyone forgets ITS A PERFORMANCE CAR

Mine with a basic remap to 270 bhp does 25 to 32 MPG !

Buy a a second hand one as they are cheap money with good build quality.

Dont get an orange one as everyone thinks its the rozzers at night especially if you have the xenon headlights. !

RichieST

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thebigmacmoomin

I get between 20 to 24 mpg around town, thats about 210 miles + on a full tank. I do like in a hilly area and drive through town all the time, so stop start. Serviceing isnt any different to a normal Focus. Brake fluid should be changed on 2nd service @ 2 years or 25k miles.

Ive had mine 6 months and have loved all 2k miles ive done.

They seem to be dearer now. I paid £12k (£10.9k cash + £1.1k part ex on dads TDCi Focus) for my 2007 ST3 6 months ago with 22k miles.

mrjenrst

compared to what?

thebigmacmoomin

Compared to a Golf GTi which is similar performance, the ST's mpg is shocking

RichieST

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Yes their prices have risen a bit, I paid 12k for mine 2 weeks ago, its a 56 plate ST2 with 41k, and that was pretty much the going rate.

Chris and Dawn

I've had mine just over two years.

Had clutch pedal stuck down, hydraulic system i think, was fixed under warranty.
Oil separator diaphragm split needed complete new unit.
Alternator died last month.

Apart from that i love the car. Only done 38k miles but all above common faults. I must have been unlucky having a full set lol.

Rsmat

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the focus is 5 cylinder tho and similar isnt same! so not really a good comparision....

and im pretty much sure the golf your on about is only 150 ponies compared to the focus`s 225. so again no comparison

correct me if im wrong mate.

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You wont get a golf GTI to a reliable 270 bhp for a few hundred quid like you can for the ST


oh and fook off Rich

Mark Shead

I have had mine 18months done 20k in it, so far no faults and between 25 and 30mpg and 280hp.

Mark

RichieST

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What map have you got on yours simon? Looking at something for mine now!

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Rich,

Dreamscience. Works well and easy to use.... Transforms the car !

wirralphil

So I did see that on here. Is the Turbo near the Alternator? Does this happen on all ST's or just Modded ones?

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phil, the turbo is on the opposite side of the engine to the alternator which is at the front of the car

RichieST

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I did look at the dreamscience, unfortunately now you can only buy it with a touch screen interface thing which has bumped the price way up. Have you had any experience with bluefin?

Bluefin is £391 compared to dreamscience's £595, quite a difference for a load of shite I will never use!!!

wirralphil

Ah right thanks for clearing that up

Mark Shead

Thats not correct you can still buy it with the hand controler and I think you can have just the map on its own also.

Mark

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Phil, Never tried bluefin.
I know of a cheap DS unit if you want one. I will PM you the guy's number if you are interested

(This not my unit, nor is it a trade item Mr moderator..just helping out a fellow PFer)

craig2016

owned one for nearly 2 years, if you do a few miles and like to use it through the rev range you WILL get sick of putting petrol in.

RichieST

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I didn't realise that mark, there's nothing on their website about just the hand held unit anymore.

If you could let me know how much he wants for it and some contact details that would be great, cheers simon

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Rich, will do, I will be seeing him tomorrow morning and will PM you the details

thebigmacmoomin

You are wrong, Golf GTi's are about 197 / 200bhp ish and 230bhp with the edition30. Anyway, I was going performance / price size wise.

Rsmat

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so compared to most GTI`S unless its the edition30 then its still 20ish bhp less and a cylinder less...get me drift.....

cheeky dog

mondeo man im selling a blue st2 3dr 18k miles on clock! belongs to me sis if your interested.

cheeky dog

still no comparison, 2.5 5cyls turbo, compared to 1.8 4 cyls.

also as mentioned above, cant get a reliable 270bhp with a few hundred pounds with the golf.

before you jump down my throat i also have a leon cupra so no bias here

RS Grant

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MK5 Golf GTi is the 2.0T engine, not the older 1.8T that was used in Leon, TT, A3, Golf Turbo etc... and IIRC you can get 250-260ish from a basic re-map on the standard 2.0T engines. The Edition30 models will map to just over 300bhp for a few hundred quid without any further mods.

The number of cylinders is irrelevant IMO, these cars are the same class, Golf/Focus are in direct competition when someone is looking for a car of that size... same way that a Fiesta/Corsa or Mondeo/Passat are in the same class and hence in competition with each other.


Cheers,
Grant