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Old 24-10-2009, 05:05 PM
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Default GT30 on a cossie.......Talk to me.

What do I need? As in EVERYTHING I need? Also what size is the best to go for I'm looking for in the region of 450 with as little lag as possible. Would a GT3071r do? Do they do them in cossie fitment? Internal or External gate etc etc?

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Old 24-10-2009, 05:19 PM
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GT3071 woll do you sir, nice and responsive and will see you 450 all-day long with the correct Spec, cossieRich has one on his saff, internally gated if i recall...
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all the bits are on the reyland website... get the whole lot as a kit .. drove mine for the first time with it all on and chuffed to bits with it... cant open it up properly as its only on a base map but its totally different from the t38 i had on it.. only down side is having to have a dump valve..
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I have just fitted a GT30,71 on my car totally awesome, go for it you won't regret it


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Originally Posted by gibbo frst
all the bits are on the reyland website... get the whole lot as a kit .. drove mine for the first time with it all on and chuffed to bits with it... cant open it up properly as its only on a base map but its totally different from the t38 i had on it.. only down side is having to have a dump valve..

You have a GT3076 Not a 3071
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Originally Posted by bigbill
What do I need? As in EVERYTHING I need? Also what size is the best to go for I'm looking for in the region of 450 with as little lag as possible. Would a GT3071r do? Do they do them in cossie fitment? Internal or External gate etc etc?

Cheers Lads!
I have it all on the shelf, just call.
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
You have a GT3076 Not a 3071

how do they compare martin ,in the driveability stakes


cheers james
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Originally Posted by james kiely
how do they compare martin ,in the driveability stakes


cheers james


3071 spools a lot sooner in the rev range, and is a lot less laggy, but ultimately is about 100bhp smaller.

Difference is similar to a T3 versus a T34, to relate it to something you are probably more familiar with?
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cheers chip ,im on a 34.63 at the minute how would either spool up compared to a .63


cheers james
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can u buy and where from a gt30 internal gated
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Originally Posted by james kiely
cheers chip ,im on a 34.63 at the minute how would either spool up compared to a .63


cheers james
Depends on the exact spec of the GT3071, but given a .63 housing too, it spools very similarly to a T34, just doesnt die off at the top end, and makes a little more midrange too.

3076 though, would feel quite laggy compared to your current setup.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Depends on the exact spec of the GT3071, but given a .63 housing too, it spools very similarly to a T34, just doesnt die off at the top end, and makes a little more midrange too.

3076 though, would feel quite laggy compared to your current setup.

cheers fo the info chip


cheers james
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for 450bhp, its GT3071 all the way.

PM martin for a price is your best, as its probably not quite up to date on his website as turbo prices change so often!
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Cheers for all the info lads. Im thinking 3071 .64 housing, will I need to externally gate it to prevent surge? Also I heard that the 3071 with T3 housings are not supported by Garret that they all originally come with t25 housings (sr20 fitment I think) and that they are modified to have the T3 housing, is that true?
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Originally Posted by Chip
Depends on the exact spec of the GT3071, but given a .63 housing too, it spools very similarly to a T34, just doesnt die off at the top end, and makes a little more midrange too.

3076 though, would feel quite laggy compared to your current setup.

how would the gt3076 be compared to a t4??
when will they hit full boost?
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Is a roller bearing T4 worth a consideration
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Mine is starting to boost sooner than it did with the tt t38 I've taken off and once making boost it picks up far quicker it is the 3076 one
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slightly off topic
i had a gt3071 on my cossy and must say compared to the t35 .48 i had before it felt soo much better on boost in particular mid range to top end !!

my t35on a .48 spun up quickly but lost its pace towards top end were as the gt3071r with a .68 felt much stronger when on boost
also had the ported anti-surge housing also

shame the flange that holds the coldside compressor to the core snapped !!!

still have it in bits sat here perfectly good turbo ,just knackered due to core flange breaking off

shame really as back on t35 now lol
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Originally Posted by t4 and greys
slightly off topic
i had a gt3071 on my cossy and must say compared to the t35 .48 i had before it felt soo much better on boost in particular mid range to top end !!

my t35on a .48 spun up quickly but lost its pace towards top end were as the gt3071r with a .68 felt much stronger when on boost
also had the ported anti-surge housing also

shame the flange that holds the coldside compressor to the core snapped !!!

still have it in bits sat here perfectly good turbo ,just knackered due to core flange breaking off

shame really as back on t35 now lol
the ally part that the boost pipe fits on ??
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Originally Posted by gibbo frst
Mine is starting to boost sooner than it did with the tt t38 I've taken off and once making boost it picks up far quicker it is the 3076 one

do you know when your turbo has full boost?
my t4 has 8 psi @ 3500rpm 15psi @ and 4000rpm and full boost @ 4500rpm,
just wanted to compare it to a gt30/76

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my 3071 gives ~ 1,3bar@ 3000rpm in the 4th gear,
1,9@3500
but it pulls from 3800 till 7000 really good
made only 410 with stock cams but ported head.........
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Originally Posted by B13 JUS
do you know when your turbo has full boost?
my t4 has 8 psi @ 3500rpm 15psi @ and 4000rpm and full boost @ 4500rpm,
just wanted to compare it to a gt30/76
what psi is full boost mate?
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Originally Posted by Vic
what psi is full boost mate?
26 at the minute
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Originally Posted by bigbill
Cheers for all the info lads. Im thinking 3071 .64 housing, will I need to externally gate it to prevent surge? Also I heard that the 3071 with T3 housings are not supported by Garret that they all originally come with t25 housings (sr20 fitment I think) and that they are modified to have the T3 housing, is that true?
i wouldnt bother with the .64 housing personally. waste of time. Cossie rich has the 82 housing on his 3071 and its superb. Basically a standard engine with a big inlet cam and it drives as good as any other t34 powered car i've been in!!! my bro has the same turbo on his 2.1 zetec lump. bloody brilliant turbo! no surge either!!

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Originally Posted by crazycage
the ally part that the boost pipe fits on ??
there is a circlip behind the cold side compressor that holds it on
the flange part of the core around this area sheared completely off

leaving me with a remotely mounted coldside housing ( ie sitting other side in the engine bay)

whilst my core and rest of turbo still in factory position
like i say shame as turbo is mint but as you cant refurb the internals on gt 30,s
only option is to buy a new core easier just buying another hahah

will post a cpl of pics later lol
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a friends old setup with a gt3071r internally wastegated:



went like fook when the engine was in one piece REALLY responsive!

440 hp/520 nm at the rear hubs.
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the t2 flanged 0.64 is FAR too small for any GT30.
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The thing is if the cams etc are speced correctly a T4 can come in at the same time as a GT3071. Mine and Riches Graphs are pretty much identical, mines on a T4 and his on a GT3071.
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Originally Posted by Nash
The thing is if the cams etc are speced correctly a T4 can come in at the same time as a GT3071. Mine and Riches Graphs are pretty much identical, mines on a T4 and his on a GT3071.

whats your spec?
can you post your graph?
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Originally Posted by olek
a friends old setup with a gt3071r internally wastegated:



went like fook when the engine was in one piece REALLY responsive!

440 hp/520 nm at the rear hubs.
which gt3071 is this exactly?
how much boost?
engine components?
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Originally Posted by garrett-killer
which gt3071 is this exactly?
how much boost?
engine components?
only thing i know is that its a 0.63 exhaust housing.

1.8 bar boost

98RON fuel

std comp, jenspeed 500hp ported head, bp320ht cams, autronic sm4, rewelded inlet elbow, 2wd manifold + all the usual stuff, intercooler, exhaust, airfilter +++

it really needed an external wastegate at this point, internal was showing it's limits!!!
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Originally Posted by B13 JUS
whats your spec?
can you post your graph?
T4, Greys, 7.8:1 comp, Ahmed CW1 inlet cam & standard exhaust, Cleaned up orts on the head, ST inlet, 500 IC, Magnex exhaust, Live mapped by Ahmed.

I dont have my graphs i can post up due to being at work. I have just had a look and they are not as close as i first thought but not miles apart[my mistake].

Both cars were run on a DD dyno. Mine is about 15-20bhp below 4800rpm but them makes that back. They are not the same obviously, but mine goes on to make more Torque and Bhp. Just thought it gives you another option using stuff you have already got, instead of having to buy a whole new turbo etc.
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Originally Posted by crazycage
the ally part that the boost pipe fits on ??

this part here mate
also curious if anyone else had similar failures like me

just thought id tag it onto this thread for anyone using search !!


this is the flange for the cold side (circlip holds front comp housing on)
can see were it has sheared !!
and yes have turbo hanger etc etc!! before anyone asks

comprssor plate


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what injectors for gt3071 about 450ps?
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Originally Posted by Thanasis
what injectors for gt3071 about 450ps?
siemens deka 55lbs will probably do it, but will be near their limit, 72lbs or 83lbs will do it easy
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
siemens deka 55lbs will probably do it, but will be near their limit, 72lbs or 83lbs will do it easy
thanks mate
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