rabmc

ILL end up buying one at this rate LOL , or a bleed valve

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

lol

if ava choose a bleed valve for ya then cool but LEAVE IT ALONE
not hard to get few horsies on jitter with standard injectors bein bigger than cossie greens,the ic is pretty decent as standard but could be doin with front mounting.theres a limit of a bar of boost usually before engine internals upgrade time i believe but dont quote me on that
but i know that my car/martins car were pretty fast as they were and plenty fun get a decent clutch in and you got a quality road racer from lights,bends and fast enough in a straight line for most

chop

ps not black

Fiecos Dan

lambchop,

no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
may be he has more moddes and 1.2 bar(17psi), cos to get low 12's he most have 350ishbhp@fly/ 235bhp@wheels
ps i have a video of me racin a proven 296bhp with 35 bhp nos 2 wd cossie, and i woz faster 40- 110, then he starts pullin back and passes

i aint under estimatin them , as owned one for 2 years and now my bro's got it.

T28 RST

On AVAs rollers i would estimate 235@ wheels to be no more than 280@ fly

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

eh?!? how much at the fly?
try 270/280bhp!
i'll ask martin to post here himself cos the car ONLY had a goose and about 12psi boost.no chip nothin!

chop

rabmc

Hopefully weel soon see , how fast are they gtir`s wa flat tyres

david

Tut-tut young man Go and borrow Roy's saff and show them both how its done

R u up for that thing in January then ???

rabmc

Just back from a stint under roy`s saff there , i hate that itchy fucken heat shield shit still coughing bits up just now is it all sorted the for JAN dates etc

david

How is it coming along ??

Dates are definate so just need to see who is all heading down

Fast Guy

Even as Gtir owner I find that hard to believe. You'd need 320bhp with a perfect run to get that time and 320bhp isn't going to happen on a standard turbo at 12psi without possibly a stroker engine and serious cams.


With 300bhp, my Gtir should be doing 12.29 at 109mph based on the site that says I should only be doing 13.21 with 246bhp when I can do 13dead.
If you both started off in the same gears, then yes you probably would have beaten him, as he was probably revving too low when he booted it. If you both booted it from the highest revs available at that speed it might have been different. Although having said that, I took my next door neighbours supposed 300+bhp Gtir out and it felt slower than mine with 60bhp less Problem is I have a close ratio (standard) box and I doubt you'd beat that to 130 (unless my limiter cuts in )

Fiesta Cossie= FWD? If so then yes, I know you'd be wheel spinning off the line, which is why I said the even on the road from a rolling start....
Using your figures the Gtir does 60-100 in 6.99secs and yours does it in 8.10secs (assuming fwd) so go figure Over 100mph you may have a chance to catch him when his aero dynamics are pants but then loose out at his higher power allows for a higher top speed. (guessing yours 145+ and him 155+)

rabmc

gearbox is in just put exzaust and tighten up a few bits here and there couple of hours should see it done well maybe about 4-5 LOL , where is it everybody is going ? had a look on site there and theres been no new posts since mine

Eagle

iTrader: (2)

i can remember a few years back at trax i had my rst running 230 bhp .. i out accelerated , overtook and out handled 5 pulsar thingys ... so i wasnt all that impressed on the track .. also on the road standing start yes they are quick but suffer emensly if you are cornering and remove power ...they tend to spin easily ..

david

Couple of hours we are going to have to take Andy's box out as he burnt the clutch last week whilst towing his track car

Will get the exact details for the hotel tomorrow as im not 2 sure myself. Should be a good laugh who is all coming down with you ??

Fiecos Dan

all my times in sig is my 200bhp/230lbft xr2 turbo, Fwd. my cossie is a sub 11 sec 1/4 car.


you lose 27-33% thro transmission on 4WD,
dont mater on rollers, as the power at wheels is measure'd, bhp@fly is calculated
gtir's
std 220bhp@fly=150bhp@wheels=32% lost, nissan specs
my bro's 278@fly= 192@wheels=31% at power station rollers
my mates 294@fly=199@wheels=32% at pts rollers 20/3/04

so lambchops mates, known= 235bhp/wheels=@ 31% loss= 340 bhp@fly

my xr2tt 199bhp@fly=174bhp@wheels= 13% lost Fwd at pts rollers 20/3/04.

fast guy:
wen me and my mates race, we always go side by side, and always are in the best gear for speed for car, NOT same as each other. that would not be a full on race........
ask your peeps off gtir site, who saw it at pts gtir thrash day, and the ones who have seen it at the pod at usc 04, as i spoke to many of them.
also : R called J off the forum who is my bro.

ps close ratio std box aint really a std 245bhp gtir, cos that would only be a 13.2 1/4 car

Fast Guy

So you got a 10sec cossie?
I'll ask, I was going to earlier but forgot.
Just to clarify, my Gtir is a Dakar (RB) model, the gearbox is close ratio as standard on that model, my car has a filter, exhaust and forge front mount and is running standard boost. So although not standard, only 25bhp over standard

T28 RST

So what would mine make at the flywheel if it makes 205 @ the wheels in AVA

Fiecos Dan

dakar is the off white sort?

its got all the parts and spec to be a 10 sec car, but aint proven it yet, will hopefully do so in march time. see spec here:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=39

t28 rst,
mine xr turbo had 13% trans losses, but have seen 11-20% on a rst,
so with 11%=230bhp@fly, or 20%=255bhp@fly
if we say yours had ave losses of 15%= 241bhp@fly, which is good for a 1.6 on t28@16psi, wots its full spec mate?

T28 RST

Mine made 240 @ fly at star performance so its a good estimate from you

1618cc CVH, stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished), newman cam, solid lifters, piper vernier, wire ringed block, lowered compression, ARP conrod Bolts, heavy duty bearings, high pressure oil pump, AVA ecu, AVA modified fuel system, AVA high flow tubular manifold, T28 turbo, 360 bearing, reshaped front pipe, AVA Large capacity intercooler, samco water and boost hoses, magnecor leads, magnex exhaust, modified airbox, AP 4 paddle clutch,

EIL132

Mates GTiR has 336 bhp, 246.5bhp at the wheels and 292 lbf - ft torque shown on Stars RR. It has a standard bottom end, turbo, modified inter but not front mounted and cat fitted. Blew it's doors off

david

Davy what gearbox you got on it ??

T28 RST

Standard

Fast Guy

Mine's black. It was origionally thought they were all the one colour, but they are popping up in every colour. Obviously if you were going to pay Ł22k or what ever they were in Japan, you would have the option of some options
last bit edited as just saw the reference for someone else

david

how long has that lasted you ???

What was the spec of Holty's old box, i know it was a deisel but was it modded ??

T28 RST

Its lasting fine, it can get a bit funny when its really warm and sometimes wont go into 3rd but apart from that its fine, dont know much about holtys old car but neither did holty coz there was always something not right about that car

david

What was up with the car ? did john muir build it for him ??

david

How long do you think a standard box would last at Knockhill with around the same power as yours ?? as I think Im going to need an uprated one

T28 RST

Holtys car never seemed to run right after he bought it, got a fair btit of work done at MV and it was supposidly meant to make 200 @ the wheels but the next week at AVAs rolling road day it made 182 @ the wheels with 18psi on a 1.9, not that great at all.

Then it started to smoke badly after that and it resulted in the bottom end being fucked after MV had fitted a new turbo and head gasket prior to the rolling road day, at the end of the day it was a shed when he bought it( clean car ) but mechanical wise a shed.

The standard box if it was good would last you a good while but if you are putting big power throught it then it will be crap, a couple of laps then you will find it hard to get gears.

What kind of power will the car be putting out

david

Hoping for around 230-250 at the flywheel on a turbo'd 2ltr zetec. Just building it for the track as Im fed up having to ponce shots of my mates cossy

Have got a 60k box (off blackdragons old S2) and will be using the internals from it in a mk3 casing.

T28 RST

Should be ok for a while coz that car it came wasnt really abused as far as i know

david

Yeah you should have seen his face when he gave me a shot of his cossie

T28 RST

You show him how it should be driven

david

Showed him what that little pedal on the far right actually did

Is a nice car as well did he get it sorted as the last time I saw him it was on our trailer going to ava

T28 RST

Think he did but im not to sure

rapidcossie

[quote="fiesta cossie"]lambchop,

no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.



oh my god that is about the most stupid statement i have ever read.
will someone please explain how a car can possibly lose over 100 bhp thru the transmission?
it bloody impossible!

david

Will give him a fone tomorrow and find out.
Are you going to the rsoc thing in the lakes at the end of January ???

rapidcossie

heres another one! think star have got a lot to answer for...they told my mate that his fwd seat cupra was losing something like 70bhp thru the gearbox???

T28 RST

Cars not going back on the road untill march

EIL132

Another what? Look on the GTiR board for user fire & skill. His GTiR made those figures. Not arguing about the figures, have my own opinion, but driven it, beat it so what do you say?

T28 RST

[quote="rapidcossie"]You could always join the bullshit gang and have a 390 bhp cossie

david

Thought you were buying a saff