MY RST Vs 20SX Vs GTIR ????????
#42
lol
if ava choose a bleed valve for ya then cool but LEAVE IT ALONE
not hard to get few horsies on jitter with standard injectors bein bigger than cossie greens,the ic is pretty decent as standard but could be doin with front mounting.theres a limit of a bar of boost usually before engine internals upgrade time i believe but dont quote me on that
but i know that my car/martins car were pretty fast as they were and plenty fun get a decent clutch in and you got a quality road racer from lights,bends and fast enough in a straight line for most
chop
ps not black
if ava choose a bleed valve for ya then cool but LEAVE IT ALONE
not hard to get few horsies on jitter with standard injectors bein bigger than cossie greens,the ic is pretty decent as standard but could be doin with front mounting.theres a limit of a bar of boost usually before engine internals upgrade time i believe but dont quote me on that
but i know that my car/martins car were pretty fast as they were and plenty fun get a decent clutch in and you got a quality road racer from lights,bends and fast enough in a straight line for most
chop
ps not black
#43
lambchop,
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
may be he has more moddes and 1.2 bar(17psi), cos to get low 12's he most have 350ishbhp@fly/ 235bhp@wheels
ps i have a video of me racin a proven 296bhp with 35 bhp nos 2 wd cossie, and i woz faster 40- 110, then he starts pullin back and passes
i aint under estimatin them , as owned one for 2 years and now my bro's got it.
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
may be he has more moddes and 1.2 bar(17psi), cos to get low 12's he most have 350ishbhp@fly/ 235bhp@wheels
ps i have a video of me racin a proven 296bhp with 35 bhp nos 2 wd cossie, and i woz faster 40- 110, then he starts pullin back and passes
i aint under estimatin them , as owned one for 2 years and now my bro's got it.
#45
Originally Posted by fiesta cossie
lambchop,
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
may be he has more moddes and 1.2 bar(17psi), cos to get low 12's he most have 350ishbhp@fly/ 235bhp@wheels
ps i have a video of me racin a proven 296bhp with 35 bhp nos 2 wd cossie, and i woz faster 40- 110, then he starts pullin back and passes
i aint under estimatin them , as owned one for 2 years and now my bro's got it.
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
may be he has more moddes and 1.2 bar(17psi), cos to get low 12's he most have 350ishbhp@fly/ 235bhp@wheels
ps i have a video of me racin a proven 296bhp with 35 bhp nos 2 wd cossie, and i woz faster 40- 110, then he starts pullin back and passes
i aint under estimatin them , as owned one for 2 years and now my bro's got it.
try 270/280bhp!
i'll ask martin to post here himself cos the car ONLY had a goose and about 12psi boost.no chip nothin!
chop
#47
Originally Posted by rabmcS2
Hopefully weel soon see , how fast are they gtir`s wa flat tyres
R u up for that thing in January then ???
#50
Originally Posted by Lambchop
oh martins car from above just with the goose and 12psi boost ran a 12.29 1'4 a crail timin slip to prove.
Originally Posted by Fiesta cossie
a 300 bhp gtir does 12.6 @ 108mph
mine does 13.8@ 104, i'm wheelspinnin to 40mph on that day, i driven 280bhp pulser and got 12.85@106 with no wheelspin at 3mph, so thats why i'm not as quick on the 1/4.
mine does 13.8@ 104, i'm wheelspinnin to 40mph on that day, i driven 280bhp pulser and got 12.85@106 with no wheelspin at 3mph, so thats why i'm not as quick on the 1/4.
If you both started off in the same gears, then yes you probably would have beaten him, as he was probably revving too low when he booted it. If you both booted it from the highest revs available at that speed it might have been different. Although having said that, I took my next door neighbours supposed 300+bhp Gtir out and it felt slower than mine with 60bhp less Problem is I have a close ratio (standard) box and I doubt you'd beat that to 130 (unless my limiter cuts in )
Fiesta Cossie= FWD? If so then yes, I know you'd be wheel spinning off the line, which is why I said the even on the road from a rolling start....
Using your figures the Gtir does 60-100 in 6.99secs and yours does it in 8.10secs (assuming fwd) so go figure Over 100mph you may have a chance to catch him when his aero dynamics are pants but then loose out at his higher power allows for a higher top speed. (guessing yours 145+ and him 155+)
#51
gearbox is in just put exzaust and tighten up a few bits here and there couple of hours should see it done well maybe about 4-5 LOL , where is it everybody is going ? had a look on site there and theres been no new posts since mine
#52
i can remember a few years back at trax i had my rst running 230 bhp .. i out accelerated , overtook and out handled 5 pulsar thingys ... so i wasnt all that impressed on the track .. also on the road standing start yes they are quick but suffer emensly if you are cornering and remove power ...they tend to spin easily ..
#53
Couple of hours we are going to have to take Andy's box out as he burnt the clutch last week whilst towing his track car
Will get the exact details for the hotel tomorrow as im not 2 sure myself. Should be a good laugh who is all coming down with you ??
Will get the exact details for the hotel tomorrow as im not 2 sure myself. Should be a good laugh who is all coming down with you ??
#54
all my times in sig is my 200bhp/230lbft xr2 turbo, Fwd. my cossie is a sub 11 sec 1/4 car.
you lose 27-33% thro transmission on 4WD,
dont mater on rollers, as the power at wheels is measure'd, bhp@fly is calculated
gtir's
std 220bhp@fly=150bhp@wheels=32% lost, nissan specs
my bro's 278@fly= 192@wheels=31% at power station rollers
my mates 294@fly=199@wheels=32% at pts rollers 20/3/04
so lambchops mates, known= 235bhp/wheels=@ 31% loss= 340 bhp@fly
my xr2tt 199bhp@fly=174bhp@wheels= 13% lost Fwd at pts rollers 20/3/04.
fast guy:
wen me and my mates race, we always go side by side, and always are in the best gear for speed for car, NOT same as each other. that would not be a full on race........
ask your peeps off gtir site, who saw it at pts gtir thrash day, and the ones who have seen it at the pod at usc 04, as i spoke to many of them.
also : R called J off the forum who is my bro.
ps close ratio std box aint really a std 245bhp gtir, cos that would only be a 13.2 1/4 car
you lose 27-33% thro transmission on 4WD,
dont mater on rollers, as the power at wheels is measure'd, bhp@fly is calculated
gtir's
std 220bhp@fly=150bhp@wheels=32% lost, nissan specs
my bro's 278@fly= 192@wheels=31% at power station rollers
my mates 294@fly=199@wheels=32% at pts rollers 20/3/04
so lambchops mates, known= 235bhp/wheels=@ 31% loss= 340 bhp@fly
my xr2tt 199bhp@fly=174bhp@wheels= 13% lost Fwd at pts rollers 20/3/04.
fast guy:
wen me and my mates race, we always go side by side, and always are in the best gear for speed for car, NOT same as each other. that would not be a full on race........
ask your peeps off gtir site, who saw it at pts gtir thrash day, and the ones who have seen it at the pod at usc 04, as i spoke to many of them.
also : R called J off the forum who is my bro.
ps close ratio std box aint really a std 245bhp gtir, cos that would only be a 13.2 1/4 car
#55
Originally Posted by fiesta cossie
all my times in sig is my 200bhp/230lbft xr2 turbo, Fwd. my cossie is a sub 11 sec 1/4 car.
fast guy:
wen me and my mates race, we always go side by side, and always are in the best gear for speed for car, NOT same as each other. that would not be a full on race........
ask your peeps off gtir site, who saw it at pts gtir thrash day, and the ones who have seen it at the pod at usc 04, as i spoke to many of them.
also : R called J off the forum who is my bro.
ps close ratio std box aint really a std 245bhp gtir, cos that would only be a 13.2 1/4 car
fast guy:
wen me and my mates race, we always go side by side, and always are in the best gear for speed for car, NOT same as each other. that would not be a full on race........
ask your peeps off gtir site, who saw it at pts gtir thrash day, and the ones who have seen it at the pod at usc 04, as i spoke to many of them.
also : R called J off the forum who is my bro.
ps close ratio std box aint really a std 245bhp gtir, cos that would only be a 13.2 1/4 car
I'll ask, I was going to earlier but forgot.
Just to clarify, my Gtir is a Dakar (RB) model, the gearbox is close ratio as standard on that model, my car has a filter, exhaust and forge front mount and is running standard boost. So although not standard, only 25bhp over standard
#57
dakar is the off white sort?
its got all the parts and spec to be a 10 sec car, but aint proven it yet, will hopefully do so in march time. see spec here:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=39
t28 rst,
mine xr turbo had 13% trans losses, but have seen 11-20% on a rst,
so with 11%=230bhp@fly, or 20%=255bhp@fly
if we say yours had ave losses of 15%= 241bhp@fly, which is good for a 1.6 on t28@16psi, wots its full spec mate?
its got all the parts and spec to be a 10 sec car, but aint proven it yet, will hopefully do so in march time. see spec here:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=39
t28 rst,
mine xr turbo had 13% trans losses, but have seen 11-20% on a rst,
so with 11%=230bhp@fly, or 20%=255bhp@fly
if we say yours had ave losses of 15%= 241bhp@fly, which is good for a 1.6 on t28@16psi, wots its full spec mate?
#58
Mine made 240 @ fly at star performance so its a good estimate from you
1618cc CVH, stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished), newman cam, solid lifters, piper vernier, wire ringed block, lowered compression, ARP conrod Bolts, heavy duty bearings, high pressure oil pump, AVA ecu, AVA modified fuel system, AVA high flow tubular manifold, T28 turbo, 360 bearing, reshaped front pipe, AVA Large capacity intercooler, samco water and boost hoses, magnecor leads, magnex exhaust, modified airbox, AP 4 paddle clutch,
1618cc CVH, stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished), newman cam, solid lifters, piper vernier, wire ringed block, lowered compression, ARP conrod Bolts, heavy duty bearings, high pressure oil pump, AVA ecu, AVA modified fuel system, AVA high flow tubular manifold, T28 turbo, 360 bearing, reshaped front pipe, AVA Large capacity intercooler, samco water and boost hoses, magnecor leads, magnex exhaust, modified airbox, AP 4 paddle clutch,
#59
Mates GTiR has 336 bhp, 246.5bhp at the wheels and 292 lbf - ft torque shown on Stars RR. It has a standard bottom end, turbo, modified inter but not front mounted and cat fitted. Blew it's doors off
#60
Originally Posted by T28 RST
Mine made 240 @ fly at star performance so its a good estimate from you
1618cc CVH, stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished), newman cam, solid lifters, piper vernier, wire ringed block, lowered compression, ARP conrod Bolts, heavy duty bearings, high pressure oil pump, AVA ecu, AVA modified fuel system, AVA high flow tubular manifold, T28 turbo, 360 bearing, reshaped front pipe, AVA Large capacity intercooler, samco water and boost hoses, magnecor leads, magnex exhaust, modified airbox, AP 4 paddle clutch,
1618cc CVH, stage 2 big valve head (ported and polished), newman cam, solid lifters, piper vernier, wire ringed block, lowered compression, ARP conrod Bolts, heavy duty bearings, high pressure oil pump, AVA ecu, AVA modified fuel system, AVA high flow tubular manifold, T28 turbo, 360 bearing, reshaped front pipe, AVA Large capacity intercooler, samco water and boost hoses, magnecor leads, magnex exhaust, modified airbox, AP 4 paddle clutch,
#62
Originally Posted by fiesta cossie
dakar is the off white sort?
if we say yours had ave losses of 15%= 241bhp@fly, which is good for a 1.6 on t28@16psi, wots its full spec mate?
if we say yours had ave losses of 15%= 241bhp@fly, which is good for a 1.6 on t28@16psi, wots its full spec mate?
last bit edited as just saw the reference for someone else
#64
Its lasting fine, it can get a bit funny when its really warm and sometimes wont go into 3rd but apart from that its fine, dont know much about holtys old car but neither did holty coz there was always something not right about that car
#67
Holtys car never seemed to run right after he bought it, got a fair btit of work done at MV and it was supposidly meant to make 200 @ the wheels but the next week at AVAs rolling road day it made 182 @ the wheels with 18psi on a 1.9, not that great at all.
Then it started to smoke badly after that and it resulted in the bottom end being fucked after MV had fitted a new turbo and head gasket prior to the rolling road day, at the end of the day it was a shed when he bought it( clean car ) but mechanical wise a shed.
The standard box if it was good would last you a good while but if you are putting big power throught it then it will be crap, a couple of laps then you will find it hard to get gears.
What kind of power will the car be putting out
Then it started to smoke badly after that and it resulted in the bottom end being fucked after MV had fitted a new turbo and head gasket prior to the rolling road day, at the end of the day it was a shed when he bought it( clean car ) but mechanical wise a shed.
The standard box if it was good would last you a good while but if you are putting big power throught it then it will be crap, a couple of laps then you will find it hard to get gears.
What kind of power will the car be putting out
#68
Hoping for around 230-250 at the flywheel on a turbo'd 2ltr zetec. Just building it for the track as Im fed up having to ponce shots of my mates cossy
Have got a 60k box (off blackdragons old S2) and will be using the internals from it in a mk3 casing.
Have got a 60k box (off blackdragons old S2) and will be using the internals from it in a mk3 casing.
#72
Originally Posted by T28 RST
You show him how it should be driven
Is a nice car as well did he get it sorted as the last time I saw him it was on our trailer going to ava
#74
[quote="fiesta cossie"]lambchop,
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
oh my god that is about the most stupid statement i have ever read.
will someone please explain how a car can possibly lose over 100 bhp thru the transmission?
it bloody impossible!
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
oh my god that is about the most stupid statement i have ever read.
will someone please explain how a car can possibly lose over 100 bhp thru the transmission?
it bloody impossible!
#76
Originally Posted by EIL132
Mates GTiR has 336 bhp, 246.5bhp at the wheels and 292 lbf - ft torque shown on Stars RR. It has a standard bottom end, turbo, modified inter but not front mounted and cat fitted. Blew it's doors off
#77
Originally Posted by rst88
Originally Posted by T28 RST
Think he did but im not to sure
Are you going to the rsoc thing in the lakes at the end of January ???
#78
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Originally Posted by EIL132
Mates GTiR has 336 bhp, 246.5bhp at the wheels and 292 lbf - ft torque shown on Stars RR. It has a standard bottom end, turbo, modified inter but not front mounted and cat fitted. Blew it's doors off
#79
[quote="rapidcossie"]
You could always join the bullshit gang and have a 390 bhp cossie
Originally Posted by fiesta cossie
lambchop,
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
oh my god that is about the most stupid statement i have ever read.
will someone please explain how a car can possibly lose over 100 bhp thru the transmission?
it bloody impossible!
no way will a pulser get 235bhp at wheels cos that = 350bhp@ fly
with just zorst and 12 psi.
oh my god that is about the most stupid statement i have ever read.
will someone please explain how a car can possibly lose over 100 bhp thru the transmission?
it bloody impossible!