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Old 22-10-2009, 04:56 PM
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We have just had a Rover 200 fitted with a Tomcat turbo engine come into the workshop, the guy was complaining about poor drivability and lack of power. Its on Omex 600, which to be honest isn't a bad little ecu.

Here's how the crank sensor was mounted...



Yes its bolted to the plastic shield

The 36-1 trigger ring was simply bolted through its centre by one single bolt onto the front of the crank pulley, no dowel nothing!

Anyhow here's the best bit.. Fuel map btw he was running just over 1.5 bar boost.



Now if this work was done by the guy himself I could understand it BUT he actually paid a tuning company to carry out the work for him.
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Old 22-10-2009, 04:57 PM
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Jokers....honestly !
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:04 PM
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Money well spent LOL
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name and shame!!

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Old 22-10-2009, 05:09 PM
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Yeh name and shame the bodging cunts fuck me off people like that!!!
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:11 PM
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not gonna get a very good cps signial with the cover flaping around
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Who done it??
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:14 PM
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I have no idea how to read a map so I won't try and prtend otherwise but I would guess the large repeat in numbers isn't ideal?

The CPS sensor though
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:14 PM
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I don't want to directly name them (maybe the owner will!), they are very well known in the Ford scene but don't come on here I don't think.
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:17 PM
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paull hill??
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I have no idea how to read a map so I won't try and prtend otherwise but I would guess the large repeat in numbers isn't ideal?

Likewise, I have no idea? Could someone explain the graph please?
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:33 PM
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The fact its Omex brings one name straight to my head!
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:36 PM
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i have seen this done before

hi- tec done it i bet
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:37 PM
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jusus chris that map is REDICULOUS!!!!!! how did it even drive!!!
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Originally Posted by haz87
The fact its Omex brings one name straight to my head!
whos that???
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Serious One
i have seen this done before

hi- tec done it i bet
Its not them, I have never had one of their customers cars in.
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by haz87
The fact its Omex brings one name straight to my head!
I thought that!
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Originally Posted by haz87
The fact its Omex brings one name straight to my head!
ha ha just what i was thinking!!
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:47 PM
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fucking hell, those figures are all over the place. what a fucking clown for doing that.

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Old 22-10-2009, 05:49 PM
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Well i saw Omex and thought no it can't be, there to far from Brum?!?!?!

Not from London are they, Near Heathrow.........
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Well i saw Omex and thought no it can't be, there to far from Brum?!?!?!

Not from London are they, Near Heathrow.........
Radders you naughty man!!
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Old 22-10-2009, 05:55 PM
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power e maybe ?
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Originally Posted by bazzle
power e maybe ?

Try next door.
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
Its not them, I have never had one of their customers cars in.

well thats a shock thought you would have !!!

got to be totd then........... but miles away from home
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Old 22-10-2009, 06:04 PM
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Any engine bay pictures Martin?
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Old 22-10-2009, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Serious One
i have seen this done before

hi- tec done it i bet
Aahh Hi-Tec

Had my 1st RST done by them, was OK I thought till Karl/NMS saw it

Lets just say it was re-done and "chalk and cheese" comes to mind

Their rollers are good tho, if you want 500bhp from a chipped RST

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Old 22-10-2009, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu.H
Aahh Hi-Tec

Had my 1st RST done by them, was OK I thought till Karl/NMS saw it

Lets just say it was re-done and "chalk and cheese" comes to mind

Their rollers are good tho, if you want 500bhp from a chipped RST


i took a xr4x4 there yrs ago to get set up as it had very high emmisions and could not pass its mot

tried to hit me with a 300 squid bill and had to bring car home on a truck as it would not run yet i drove it there sweet as a nut he is lucky he never got hit and not a penny left my wallet

a pal took a s1 there with a rattle 3 days later new amal valve and actuator and fmu messed with and a 350 bill and still had a rattle i had a nose and it was waste gate penny swaped for a diffrent elbow job done
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Old 22-10-2009, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu.H
Aahh Hi-Tec


Their rollers are good tho, if you want 500bhp from a chipped RST

you tell him wot you think it will do and it does

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Nice work, whats the ignition map like?
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Old 22-10-2009, 07:16 PM
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That looks more like a base map with half a dozen alterations.....randomly slotted in here n there.
Loving the cps mount.
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Old 22-10-2009, 07:42 PM
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So who did it then???
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double post

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Nice work, whats the ignition map like?
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TOTD like Omex stuff dont they....


Cheers,
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Originally Posted by bazzle
power e maybe ?
Originally Posted by matt p
Try next door.
Originally Posted by RS Grant
TOTDlike Omex stuff dont they....


Cheers,
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Beat me to it

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Old 22-10-2009, 08:11 PM
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this sort of open end type of speculative thread can be more damaging than naming and shaming in the beginning.
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Old 22-10-2009, 08:13 PM
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Sorry to dissapoint, but I can assure you Torque of the Devil are not responsible in this instance.
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Fuck me that is terrible, workmanship and mapping!!!
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Old 22-10-2009, 08:17 PM
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That is terrible. I would be straight back at the company getting my money back! Who knows what other corners they will have cut.
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