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23-10-2009, 01:38 PM
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So you do agree?
There are plenty of crappy areas in birmingham, but Alum rock is the worst, shortly followed by ladywood, handsworth, highgate.
when you get a shooting in birmingham; where is it?
you can name all four places in the 18 months alone.
There are plenty of crappy areas in birmingham, but Alum rock is the worst, shortly followed by ladywood, handsworth, highgate.
when you get a shooting in birmingham; where is it?
you can name all four places in the 18 months alone.
23-10-2009, 01:42 PM
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Go mojo 
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Better yet kal visit bradford and tell me how wonderful is it :l haha,
People do not understand about asain area's or immigrant area's should we say.
They think it's ok coming from country's with no regard and see how easy we as a country are push over's TBH,
Even jail is a nice fucking place for christ's sake,Fed and waterd etc etc,
Nothing to fear
.Better yet kal visit bradford and tell me how wonderful is it :l haha,
People do not understand about asain area's or immigrant area's should we say
.They think it's ok coming from country's with no regard and see how easy we as a country are push over's TBH,
Even jail is a nice fucking place for christ's sake,Fed and waterd etc etc,
Nothing to fear
23-10-2009, 01:46 PM
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There only talking alum rock kal not anywhere else at the mo stick to fact's mate 
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as for mentioning a few other's why not we could be here all blooming day let's do a country wide spread sheet of where "rough" area's are
.as for mentioning a few other's why not we could be here all blooming day let's do a country wide spread sheet of where "rough" area's are
23-10-2009, 01:49 PM
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im gonna stereo type a bit here
but the stratford rd is the perfect example
starts near shirley and is lovely nice shops low crime mainly white people with a few quid then get to hall green ish way and not as posh but still nice then u get further down small heath and its like a war zone mainly asian shops delapadated groups all around no white people mainlya asian then u go near higgate and its even worse mainly samalians drugs guns rape and they cannot speak a word of english and all this in one road no way are they legally here
but 10 years ago that part of highate was thriving with motorbike shops theyre used to be a sucsessfull garage and now its all intenret cafes that garage has just been used as a dumpipng ground and all since immigration has boomed.this country not getting better unless radical extremes are taken starting with throwing illegals out
but the stratford rd is the perfect example
starts near shirley and is lovely nice shops low crime mainly white people with a few quid then get to hall green ish way and not as posh but still nice then u get further down small heath and its like a war zone mainly asian shops delapadated groups all around no white people mainlya asian then u go near higgate and its even worse mainly samalians drugs guns rape and they cannot speak a word of english and all this in one road no way are they legally here
but 10 years ago that part of highate was thriving with motorbike shops theyre used to be a sucsessfull garage and now its all intenret cafes that garage has just been used as a dumpipng ground and all since immigration has boomed.this country not getting better unless radical extremes are taken starting with throwing illegals out
23-10-2009, 01:56 PM
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Its been on the news, Nick Griffin is complaining to the BBC about last nights show.
He wants a rematch!
Televised one on one with Jack Straw, and another Question Time with the proper format.
He wants a rematch!
Televised one on one with Jack Straw, and another Question Time with the proper format.
23-10-2009, 01:59 PM
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im gonna stereo type a bit here
but the stratford rd is the perfect example
starts near shirley and is lovely nice shops low crime mainly white people with a few quid then get to hall green ish way and not as posh but still nice then u get further down small heath and its like a war zone mainly asian shops delapadated groups all around no white people mainlya asian then u go near higgate and its even worse mainly samalians drugs guns rape and they cannot speak a word of english and all this in one road no way are they legally here
but 10 years ago that part of highate was thriving with motorbike shops theyre used to be a sucsessfull garage and now its all intenret cafes that garage has just been used as a dumpipng ground and all since immigration has boomed.this country not getting better unless radical extremes are taken starting with throwing illegals out
but the stratford rd is the perfect example
starts near shirley and is lovely nice shops low crime mainly white people with a few quid then get to hall green ish way and not as posh but still nice then u get further down small heath and its like a war zone mainly asian shops delapadated groups all around no white people mainlya asian then u go near higgate and its even worse mainly samalians drugs guns rape and they cannot speak a word of english and all this in one road no way are they legally here
but 10 years ago that part of highate was thriving with motorbike shops theyre used to be a sucsessfull garage and now its all intenret cafes that garage has just been used as a dumpipng ground and all since immigration has boomed.this country not getting better unless radical extremes are taken starting with throwing illegals out
23-10-2009, 02:00 PM
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.Jack was a prat TBH,
Denying simple fact's lol.
I loved the way he was going on about fighting WW2 etc and then nick soon shut him up with your dad was in jail while my dad was fighting the cause i loved that
LMAO.Childish i know but still funny
23-10-2009, 02:08 PM
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i worked in shirley in solihull, was round the corner from stratford road ( i worked on cranmoor park) i also used to attend college once a week near chelmslywood ( woodlands college) we used to go for klunch in all the surrounding areas as well as commute from solihull to brum town center (not via motorway) passing through alot of these areas. for the time and hours i spent there you got a suprising feel for the place 
23-10-2009, 02:09 PM
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23-10-2009, 02:11 PM
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ill take the win
23-10-2009, 02:13 PM
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Sadly your minds are already made up so nothing anyone will say will change it.
You see educated and/or intelligent people aim to see all the facts before making a decision rather than jumping on a bandwagon swayed by emotive issues and hearing the BNP saying what you want to hear.
And THAT is exactly the reason why our version of democracy is not working in the current situation.
23-10-2009, 02:28 PM
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LMFAO at people worried about the slight chance that the BNP might get DEMOCRATICALLY voted in.
NO CHANCE. WE ARE RULED BY BRUSSELS NOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO GETS "IN".
"Our" Government has already handed over our democracy to Brussels. Hence why we can't deport any illegals.
NO CHANCE. WE ARE RULED BY BRUSSELS NOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO GETS "IN".
"Our" Government has already handed over our democracy to Brussels. Hence why we can't deport any illegals.
23-10-2009, 04:14 PM
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but i notice that no one ever followed up on that point either
the whole point of bringing him ontothe show was to let him hang himself afer being given enough rope, but whats actually happened is that they have collected a set of lesbians and ethnic people who hate him from what theyv'e read in the papers and they were just out there to have a screaming match
if you don't let someone answer the questions without getting all shouty about it then you don't know what they are going to say, so you can't make an informed decision as to how to react to what they were going to say
if you have already made up your minds about how things are going to be then you are being just as ignorant as he is, and you can't do that
if you believe what you read in the papers it will be "look at this clown, mde a twat of himself on the telly" and yet the peole who wouldn't vote for him still won't vote for him, the supporters can say that he was hounded all through the program and support him more, and those who were undecided may be swayed by the fact that he's got a kicking when he shouldn't have and might vote that way, totaly undermining the whole point of the interview
it wasn't "question time" it was "let's harrass nick griffin time", and when the question of free speach came up, no one wanted to know because, while they were defending the rights of the pillock who worte some shit about steven gately, they were trying to stop mr bnp from having his say
typical double standards that are common practice amongst the political classes
not that i'd vote for him in a million years, but there is no harm in see how he ansers questions that are put to him
23-10-2009, 04:21 PM
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After watching the debate I think griffin made himself look like a proper amateur, a weak little school girl.
Can't believe. Some of u guys thought he done alright??
Where u even paying attention?
Doesn't matter what the audience was made up of?
If he had an decent policies or suggestions then he would of been able to justify himself.
Not once did he! He just giggled, shaked like a leaf or denied it. He's a proper joke.
People are forgetting immigrants helped us during the most crucial times of our history, like in ww2 for example.
People who are against immigrants are u not feeling ashamed after listening to how blacks, Indians gurkas helped so much during the war?
Fucking short memories! Ask your grandfathers!
If you still think bnp are good for Britain after watching question rime u got to be fucking thick and ignorant and a dirty racist!
Can't believe. Some of u guys thought he done alright??
Where u even paying attention?
Doesn't matter what the audience was made up of?
If he had an decent policies or suggestions then he would of been able to justify himself.
Not once did he! He just giggled, shaked like a leaf or denied it. He's a proper joke.
People are forgetting immigrants helped us during the most crucial times of our history, like in ww2 for example.
People who are against immigrants are u not feeling ashamed after listening to how blacks, Indians gurkas helped so much during the war?
Fucking short memories! Ask your grandfathers!
If you still think bnp are good for Britain after watching question rime u got to be fucking thick and ignorant and a dirty racist!
23-10-2009, 04:27 PM
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the problem isnt the general black/brown /green /yellow /white/whatever immigrant. its the open door policy of allowing any scum fuck in in uncontrolled numbers. there isnt a need for nonsense like a blanket ban and repatriation just a sensible approach to the problem in deporting the illegal scum element and controlling the numbers arriving on mass to communities that doesnt have the infrastructure to sustain them.
which party offers any sensible approach to this? any time i see the problem mentioned its the standard shouty 'racist' responce to sweep it back under the carpet.
which party offers any sensible approach to this? any time i see the problem mentioned its the standard shouty 'racist' responce to sweep it back under the carpet.
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23-10-2009, 04:32 PM
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After watching the debate I think griffin made himself look like a proper amateur, a weak little school girl.
Can't believe. Some of u guys thought he done alright??
Where u even paying attention?
Doesn't matter what the audience was made up of?
If he had an decent policies or suggestions then he would of been able to justify himself.
Not once did he! He just giggled, shaked like a leaf or denied it. He's a proper joke.
People are forgetting immigrants helped us during the most crucial times of our history, like in ww2 for example.
People who are against immigrants are u not feeling ashamed after listening to how blacks, Indians gurkas helped so much during the war?
Fucking short memories! Ask your grandfathers!
If you still think bnp are good for Britain after watching question rime u got to be fucking thick and ignorant and a dirty racist!
Can't believe. Some of u guys thought he done alright??
Where u even paying attention?
Doesn't matter what the audience was made up of?
If he had an decent policies or suggestions then he would of been able to justify himself.
Not once did he! He just giggled, shaked like a leaf or denied it. He's a proper joke.
People are forgetting immigrants helped us during the most crucial times of our history, like in ww2 for example.
People who are against immigrants are u not feeling ashamed after listening to how blacks, Indians gurkas helped so much during the war?
Fucking short memories! Ask your grandfathers!
If you still think bnp are good for Britain after watching question rime u got to be fucking thick and ignorant and a dirty racist!
he made points about islam not treating women as equals and not having freedom of speach, can you argue with that?
and he said he dind't want millitant homosexuals prading themselves in the streets, to which some lesbian said she didn't like the way he looked, as if that was going to win any arguements
the way it was all set up was to make a mockery of him, and nothing else, there were important thigns that could have been discussed in a civilised matter but wern't, what was he going to do about the nhs? what about the postal strikes? should police be armed? etc, but nope, it was about justification of why he was with some bloke from the kkk, quoets and stuff he'd said and all sorts of other bullshit, why not just ask him direct questions and then, when he'd answered differently, pull out the quotes he was quoted as saying and then ask him to explain why he's had a change of attitude?
he only mentioned that european law forbade him from disclosing why he was no longer a holocaust denier, but what does that mean? he is but can't admit it? or he isn't but can't tell us why he isn't?
there was too much emphasis on the character assasination rather than an thought out plan of what to put to him so that he would wriggle and squirm like a worm on the hook before exploding, but once he'd figured out what they were trying to do, he simply started to deny the quotes atributed to him and got on with the charade, and everyone was happy to carry on just jeering him like kids in the school playground after some kids been seen picking his nose and is now waving ghe boogers about
23-10-2009, 04:33 PM
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The idea of sending away any political asylum seeker who has passed through a safe country on the way here is, as far as im aware, a fundamentally sound concept, I would like to see the other parties take that one up, but im not sure how you actually implement it, after all once you have decided they have to go, which country do you send them to, as you dont know which route they took to get here and france or holland etc arent going to take kindly to us checking them all our unwanted asylum seekers.
23-10-2009, 04:34 PM
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Quick question.
Do those who support bnp also condone the actions of the ku klux clan?
or in fact the Nazi who we fought against?
Because that prick griffin does! That should tell you something!
Do those who support bnp also condone the actions of the ku klux clan?
or in fact the Nazi who we fought against?
Because that prick griffin does! That should tell you something!
23-10-2009, 04:35 PM
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After watching the debate I think griffin made himself look like a proper amateur, a weak little school girl.
Can't believe. Some of u guys thought he done alright??
Where u even paying attention?
Doesn't matter what the audience was made up of?
If he had an decent policies or suggestions then he would of been able to justify himself.
Not once did he! He just giggled, shaked like a leaf or denied it. He's a proper joke.
People are forgetting immigrants helped us during the most crucial times of our history, like in ww2 for example.
People who are against immigrants are u not feeling ashamed after listening to how blacks, Indians gurkas helped so much during the war?
Fucking short memories! Ask your grandfathers!
If you still think bnp are good for Britain after watching question rime u got to be fucking thick and ignorant and a dirty racist!
Can't believe. Some of u guys thought he done alright??
Where u even paying attention?
Doesn't matter what the audience was made up of?
If he had an decent policies or suggestions then he would of been able to justify himself.
Not once did he! He just giggled, shaked like a leaf or denied it. He's a proper joke.
People are forgetting immigrants helped us during the most crucial times of our history, like in ww2 for example.
People who are against immigrants are u not feeling ashamed after listening to how blacks, Indians gurkas helped so much during the war?
Fucking short memories! Ask your grandfathers!
If you still think bnp are good for Britain after watching question rime u got to be fucking thick and ignorant and a dirty racist!
What could he do but laugh u idiot he was interupted more than anyone else did u watch the programme?He has his right to comment on anything he well chooses as u do and me mate so
Mate so it's so ok to hold me accountable for the war's before my time?
And how many people have we helped over the year's in war's ur making out as if it is all immigrant's that helped us,
They helped because we was fighting a cause to stop a nut case like hitler rule the world TBH they nearly had the world in there grasp's pal if he used better strategy like one at a time he could have ruled the world,That is why everyone fought not to help us but to also help them self's as such
,No doubt that statment above will be corrected by someone as someone alway's know's something more
It just raises good point's that is all
,And dojj i wasn't on about him (jack) but his family let hitler walk and didn't fight the cause when indeed nick dad's did TBH as i said childish but he looked like a proper cunt TBH calling someone when his own family refused to fight and protect jew's mainly when his son was 3rd gen jew if u get me lmao probably not lol,
23-10-2009, 04:36 PM
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deport them back to their country of origin not any country theyve travelled through. the same way as many other countries manage to. its an island. it shouldnt be to difficult to tighten up our borders.
23-10-2009, 04:38 PM
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Mate as for gay's kissing in a street i would find it creepy doesn't mean i am biased to it,
Although i truly agree kid's should not be allowed to gay couples my view's simple,
Men and woman have a plug and play fitment simple,Thing's happen like life when human's mate(men and woman),Now what happen's when gay's mate?? Nothing plain and simple mate,
Each to there own i do not have a problem with gay's either,Just you leave me to my woman and i will leave ya to your men if that's your bag Or woman LOL.
Although i truly agree kid's should not be allowed to gay couples my view's simple,
Men and woman have a plug and play fitment simple,Thing's happen like life when human's mate(men and woman),Now what happen's when gay's mate?? Nothing plain and simple mate
,Each to there own i do not have a problem with gay's either,Just you leave me to my woman and i will leave ya to your men if that's your bag
Or woman LOL.
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23-10-2009, 04:42 PM
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In the past we needed immigiration to fill jobs, currently we dont, so our borders need to be tightly controlled at the moment, however in doing so we need to stay within EU law realistically to not end up with the policy being counter productive.
The idea of sending away any political asylum seeker who has passed through a safe country on the way here is, as far as im aware, a fundamentally sound concept, I would like to see the other parties take that one up, but im not sure how you actually implement it, after all once you have decided they have to go, which country do you send them to, as you dont know which route they took to get here and france or holland etc arent going to take kindly to us checking them all our unwanted asylum seekers.
The idea of sending away any political asylum seeker who has passed through a safe country on the way here is, as far as im aware, a fundamentally sound concept, I would like to see the other parties take that one up, but im not sure how you actually implement it, after all once you have decided they have to go, which country do you send them to, as you dont know which route they took to get here and france or holland etc arent going to take kindly to us checking them all our unwanted asylum seekers.
if you just stopped dishing out cash and home and, like osmeone said before, free phones andstuff to them they'd soon stop coming
one more thing, i think the uk generally has a high "worth" so peole do jobs that are "worth" more renumeration
if you go to other countries, the same job is "worth" less in real terms so when you have someone come over and undercut the locals, is this because the locals have priced themselves out of the market or do they need to earn that much per job to be able to keep themselves in the lifestlye they are used to?
it's a simple question that iw ould like to get an answer to, and not the old "living 15 to a room and sharing beds" that is ususally trotted out, how are they supposed to be getting afoothold in teh country if they can only earn Ł20 a day?
23-10-2009, 04:46 PM
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i think the definition of irony is listening to my local asian shopkeeper complaining about the "dirty poles" coming in and taking their jobs.
23-10-2009, 04:47 PM
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I have just become a member after seeing that last night, their very good policies far outweigh a couple of questionable ones and they are the true choice for the normal honest working man, It seems it has worked in their favour, 3000 new registrations to become members after the show... http://bnp.org.uk/2009/10/lynch-mob-...ship-interest/
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23-10-2009, 04:48 PM
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There is no point having policies that are totally impossible to implement, the french would (rightly!) just refuse them entry and send them back just like we would if they tried to do the same to us.
23-10-2009, 04:50 PM
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And TBH .. I am not interested the KKK or what happened years and years ago .. All i care about is the now .. And its looking pretty well fucked.
Basically ... Last nights Q time .. Was a Political Witch Hunt .. Nothing more ..