creedy

is fuel meant to come out of the metering head when u prime pump (not start car)? caus there isnt.

helpp

vroooom ptssssh

yea their is if uve loosened the injector fuel lines off the top of it, or the fuel line from filter - metering head. it sounds like ure fuel pump aint working, did u not say ure fuel relay was fubar?

creedy

arr sorry forgot to say, pump is pumping as i took of the fuel line in2 filter and primed pump and fuel pissed out but not on top of metering head. the fuel fiter is brand new so dnt fink its that, my relay is ok, it wasnt making a very good contection in the plug

Rick

depending on the state of the metering flap. Get someone to crank it, as u depress the flap, and it should piss out.

creedy

wot about when u have the air filter on there hows it goin to start?

creedy

btt

vroooom ptssssh

take the filter off, get someone to crank it, push the flap down about 5 mm an if theris fuel getting through the metering head the car shuld start.
will start with no filter.
i tested mine when putting my engine in and with fuel pressure i got fuel out the banjo bolts at the top where the injector lines bolt onto is it maybe the case that the metering head aint getting anything from the multi plug, not workin somehow, get it tested, dunno how someone will tell u lol

creedy

great thanx m8 ur a life saver i will go and have a look in a mo

Rick

also check that the metering flap moves up and down as engine is cranking - if not, it has an air leak.

creedy

kk, will have a look in a mo, just waiting 4 a m8 2 come over. if it isnt pissing fuel out wot else do i need to look 4?

Rick

if there is fuel before the metering unit, but non coming out, the piston is probably gued up. Take the unit off which is held on by 3 torx, and use some wd40 to clean it so it moves under gravity.

creedy

there is fuel coming of metering head, the flap does move but i have 2 push it a bit for the fuel to come out. but the car still wont start, wants to but doesnt timing? there is a spark there. wot way around do the Ht leads go on? just in case i got them on the wrong way around.

Rick

fuel sounds fine then mate. You can help it start by pushing flap down a little when it's cranking.

creedy

yeah thats wot i was doin but i wont start its wants to but doesnt. duno wot it is

Rick

firing order is 1432, clockwise, no 1 being top right on dizzy.

creedy

ahh so looking at dizzy head on it should look like this?
2-1
3-4

Rick

yes

creedy

ah ha thats were im goin wrong then , thanks m8 ur a life saver 2. it was driving me up the wall
will try 2moro.
cheers
neal

creedy

nope that hasnt worked just put a new battery in 2. there is fuel going into the engine as spark plugs are wet with fuel, and there is a spark being made. ???????

vroooom ptssssh

your prob flooding it as ure cranking it, mind dont crank it for more than 10 seconds at a time, starter will fook up. It could be the timming, but it cant be that far off, what u done to the car since it was last running?

creedy

changed the head gasket.

Trey

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1432 = 4321 = 1234
1342 is what you want

creedy

eh?

creedy

rite got a new one for u. sometimes there is a spark and other times there isnt, i have a new rotor arm and cap, plugs and coil. but not leads, but when they do spark up the spark anit that bright. help me plz

vroooom ptssssh

ignition amplifier maybe on its way out, but not proper fucked cos if it were u'd get no spark or fuel pump?

coil on its way out? coil lead not on proper?

creedy

the coil is new. i have a toad alarm maybe that is tapped in2 the system some how, that mite be stopping it somehow. its realy doin my head in now

CarlRsT

Check the coil connections deffo I had this prob with mine got a new coil, dizzy, plugs, leads the lot and ended up gettin an auto elecy out to find one of the plugs on my coil was fooked

creedy

even tho its new? i was looking in the haynes manual at the electronic spark control II (ESC II) anything to do wiv this?

DazC

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You either have 1 and 2 mixed up OR 2, 3 and 4 mixed up.

If you look at the end of the dizzy (from the passenger side) then rotating anti-clockwise it should be 1 3 4 2....

Can't remember if No 1 is where you have it or if it should be where you have No 2....

Easy way to find out is set the crank and cam to TDC and pop the cap off. The one that the rotor arm is pointing to is No 1....

DazC

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All that does is switch your coil on and off. It relies on sensory input to decide when to switch the coil..

creedy

i have set the crank and cam 2 TDC. when i remove the plugs and insert them into the leads to see if they are sparking up, they do somtimes and sometimes they dnt.

vroooom ptssssh

have you put the earth strap back on the head from the driver side inner wing?

DazC

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You confuse me. To check the spark you have to have a plug in a lead and earth the threaded bit to the engine and then crank it over. It should spark regularly....

I meant you have to set the cam and crank to TDC to IDENTIFY which one of the connections on the dizzy cap is the one which you should connect the lead to for number one cylinder....

creedy

rite i have identifed which point on the dizzy is for lead number one. maybe thats y it doesnt spark rite then if they arnt earthed but even when they are in the engine it doesnt start.
earth strap is connected

DazC

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If you have connected them like that then it won't run....

creedy

wots urs set up like?

vroooom ptssssh

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89926

check their for plug lead positions.

DazC

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Looking from the passenger side at the top of the cap,

3-1
4-2

creedy

thanx i will have a go again 2moro. just hope it starts bloody thing.