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Old 21-12-2004 | 11:21 AM
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chip, you seem to be pretty clued up on vauxes so figured i'd ask ya...

nova GTE engines... know of anyone good with em in the southeast?

mate's put one in his corsa and it needs setting up badly...

problem is it's unknown spec

unknown C/R (but it is raised), unknown cam (but it is modded), unknown head (but it is worked) etc. etc.

doesnt have a clue how to even do the basic "tune up" type stuff on it unfortunately

he is planning to take it to SCC in st. albans for a setup, but if you know of any "specialists" he might give them a try.

should be quite quick when it's done, previous owner was running 15sec quarters in it but that was in a lighter nova...

Old 21-12-2004 | 11:33 AM
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probably be a good bet speaking to henryk at V Tuning in Crawley

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Old 21-12-2004 | 11:36 AM
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tell james to take it to dave or henryk at v tuning, very very good

either that are contact shinee or steveboy of migweb as im sure they both doen quite a bot on c16se, including turbo'ing them, there both very good at vaux and based in harlow
Old 21-12-2004 | 11:46 AM
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Yeah V tuning are an option, but the problem is to be honest that as he is on standard management there isnt going to be a lot anyone can do to "set it up" really.

He'd be better off fitting MBE or similar, or a pair of 40s if he is on a budget.
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turboing them? that will definately interest him

one of the geezers i worked with used to have a GTE turbo, dunno if it was a turbotechnics conversion or a homebrew, but he just bought it as a snotter... smoked to buggery so he scrapped it in the end what a waste!
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If he is after turboing it then the easiest option is to spend a grand on a 2.0 16v turbo calibra engine.

If he wants to keep the 1.6 its easy to turbo them to about 160bhp or so, but not now he has raised the CR!
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jr, do you mean "steveboyslim"?

If so that guy is a fucking legend, anything he tells you about fords or vauxhalls you can treat as if its come from cosworth themself, lol

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chip, i just mean setting up as in the basics, ie setting cam timing, base idle, base mixture, base timing etc. etc. and then taking it for a run and seeing that its not pinking its tits off and the fueling isnt too far out from where it needs to be.

twin carbs is somehting he'd consider, but would need all the bits to bolt on etc. and would also need a good old skool carb tuner to set em up, so many places nowadays are shit with carbs and they set carbs up like crap and charge a small fortune
Old 21-12-2004 | 11:53 AM
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Yer I agree it would be much easier to drop a c20let in, but it was a expirement they tries out on the c16xe, apparentley was mental up to 125bhp, then the f13box limited it from there
Old 21-12-2004 | 11:56 AM
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carbs he should be able to find very cheaply, and then take it to sanspeed in kent or pete baldwins, they are both great with twin 40s.

if he wants to turbo it, then for god sake dont let him go to courtenay or regal etc, they charge SO much money and do so little for it.

the 2.0 16v turbo is the way to go though, or even the N/A version of the 2.0 16v, as found in astra GTE's and calibras etc.
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good point about value for money on the engine side... probably better to stickin to what hes got... i think he'll end up with a S2 ERST or something in about a year or so anyway.


the whole point of the GTE conversion was that it was cheap... i think in total its all come to about 300quid, including the engine and all the extras thats not bad for a fair old increase in power (was a 1.2 8v before and twas bloody slow! lol 85mph max speed )
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shinee would be good for this i reckon, im sure chip will remember him from mig, also had the grey GTE that was cover car in total vaux
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mine used to be a 1.28v as well, then went to a 140bhp 1.4 16v and now a 140bhp 1.6 16v
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i agree with Chip there, avoid Jon at Courtney and Chris at regal (especially the later imo)

Jim, if ur mate decides to go the twin carb route then ive got a spare inlet manifold sat in the shed for twin 40's to fit that head
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eurorallye do the inlet manifold for twin 40's or 45 i think for the 1.68v
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I dont know anyone called shinee, but if he is on mig then he probably knows me.
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jr, Shinee, now thats a minter than mint astra!!

Shame Martin never gets the car out tho
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Originally Posted by kelcos
i agree with Chip there, avoid Jon at Courtney and Chris at regal (especially the later imo)

Jim, if ur mate decides to go the twin carb route then ive got a spare inlet manifold sat in the shed for twin 40's to fit that head
You can get a secondhand pair of 40s for 100 quid easily.

So that sounds like a plain, 300 quid all in and it could be setup and everything
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i agree with Chip there, avoid Jon at Courtney and Chris at regal (especially the later imo)

Jim, if ur mate decides to go the twin carb route then ive got a spare inlet manifold sat in the shed for twin 40's to fit that head
You can get a secondhand pair of 40s for 100 quid easily.

So that sounds like a plain, 300 quid all in and it could be setup and everything
And at that price he'll have himself a revvy and fun little engine thats relatively torquey that will keep him amused for a while
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shinees helped me and lee (who did my engine conversions) so much, my current engine is from him as well, the astra is being rebuilt to 400bhp+ spec with some even better mods
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ill be interested to see a 400bhp astra, no one seems to manage to get the power they want from these engines cause they all piss around with crappy chips rather than running proper management on them.
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from what i can remember it using a 2.1 or 2.2 LET wallace racing bottom, its still quite a while away from being finsihed, but the level the cars up to it will be amazing once done,

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Originally Posted by chip-3door
ill be interested to see a 400bhp astra, no one seems to manage to get the power they want from these engines cause they all piss around with crappy chips rather than running proper management on them.
Daves mark 1 astra never actually made it on the rollers to prove its power but its got to have been hitting the region of 400bhp!

And i think JPT's mark 2 astra is now heading towards that power figure, on an EDS phase 2 he was getting 13.01 qtr at the pod!
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From what ibe heard it running on an eds prototype managment of some description
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From what ibe heard it running on an eds prototype managment of some description
With reference to who's car mate?
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fook me that astra is clean and well
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shit the bed that astra is minty mint

kelcos, how muc would you be looking for for the inlet manifold? also any ideas on whats involved on swapping them? if you ditch the stock ECU does it mess the timing up? as i know thats all ECU controlled at the moment, and if you binned it i woulda thought you lose all advance/retard?

unless you can put a vac advance one on there?
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i admit i dont know much about carbs etc, but putting an aftermarket ignition systerm in would surely still allow all advance/retard
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to be honest Jim, its sat in the shed for that long now its not really worth much to me, ill never have a use for it again so Ł20.

DTA or MBE could do a management to run it all for him but thats going to bump up the price.

Failing that, you use the ignition setup from a lower based model that runs carbs as standard, and obviously just have the carbs jetted and choked to suit the engine, theres plenty of places around that could do that!
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kel thats what i was thinking, woulda thought there'd be something out there with a vac advance dizzy...

as for aftermarket management, again defeats the object of having a cheap conversion imho... also bit of a waste putting Ł500quid worth of management on a car thats only gonna be used for the ignition map

ill have a word with him later about twin 40s... im sure we discussed it a while ago, but getting the inlet manifold made up etc. so it'd all bolt up was the big putoff...

all the other bits like fuel tank, fuel pump etc. etc. should be piss easy to source etc.
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I have an inlet to suit that engine for a set of forties. 50 + p&p.

Let me know
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Jim, what model is the corsa, what engine did it have in there from factory?
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i know that corsa had a 1.28v (c12nz i think) as standard
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as per JR...

but obviously most of the 1.2 stuff has been ripped out and replaced with everything to suit the 1600 (IE FUEL PUMP ETC.)
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My mate's got an old shape 1.2 8v Corsa and his speedo read almost 105mph on the motorway in the summer, so your mate's must have been shagged to only hit 85 lol. That's not even fast enough to make them flux capacitor kick in!
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These people should be able to help, as they run alot of there novas on carbs

http://www.eurorallye.co.uk/index.htm
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My mate's got an old shape 1.2 8v Corsa and his speedo read almost 105mph on the motorway in the summer, so your mate's must have been shagged to only hit 85 lol. That's not even fast enough to make them flux capacitor kick in!
the speedo over read massively, these are the slowest engines ever, i dont even belive the f10/f12 gear boxes are geared to reach thoses speeds anyway
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just use a carb off a 1.3 sr or similar, you might need to use the cam too as im not sure if the gte one will drive the 1.3 dizzy or not.

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Im afraid i know very little about the smaller engines as i always rip them out and put a 2.0 in instead!


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