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Old 27-08-2009, 05:47 PM
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Question opinions on opening a RS specailist garage doing concours resto's and servicing

Right guys i need your thought on this please

One of my mates is thinking about opening his own garage doing mot's,engine rebuilding,servicing resto's,concours work on RS'sbut also work on other cars he is VERY VERY good the best about imoa and alot of people i know his work really is 2nd to none he is a VERY nice helpfull guy and he helps me out mega with doing my own carnow the garage would be located in stoke area or there abouts iam just wondering if this would be any use to you or your freinds?and whats your opinions on it?imoa i think he would do really well and others have also told him aswell but really just want to see what you the public thinkFor got to say can build focus's,feista's,escort's mk1,2,3,4 with cosworth engines aswell


I will put pics up of his work and you will see what iam talking aboutmost of you cosworth owners etc etc or anyone who went to Ford Fair will more than likely seen his imperail escos L11 XRS



NATHAN I HOPE YOU DONT MIND ME SHOWING YOUR BEAST FOR PHOTO'S TO LET PEOPLE SEE
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Car now finished Some before and after pics...

Before


After


Before


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Before


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thanks to mark (cossiecrazy) for all his hardwork i would recommend him to anyone! his work is top notch as you can see Thanks mate

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what sort of money will it be to do the underneath of the car like that?
Old 27-08-2009, 06:16 PM
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it would depends how far you would like to go really

thanks for your reply

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can he open up next to my house ! lol
Old 27-08-2009, 06:17 PM
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id say yes from the pictures hes very capable of doing it
Old 27-08-2009, 06:18 PM
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It didn't work out for a former RSOC & Autoglym champion up here,

It didn't work out for John Yaylor,

It wouldn't be me!
Old 27-08-2009, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by THEDMAN
It didn't work out for a former RSOC & Autoglym champion up here,

It didn't work out for John Yaylor,

It wouldn't be me!


But he does other cars aswell but specialises in RS's

thanks for your in comment
Old 27-08-2009, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by maestrouk
can he open up next to my house ! lol

If your making the cuppa t's

Originally Posted by madmack99
id say yes from the pictures hes very capable of doing it

As i said above he has to be the best about imoa

thanks for your comments guys
Old 27-08-2009, 06:28 PM
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Seems to be working out well for jacko,as if his stanard of work is anywhere near as good well then he stands a good chance to be as busy

Not the best of times to give it a go tho,but always better to go through life saying I wish I hadnt rather than I wish I had
Old 27-08-2009, 06:37 PM
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well put it this way Jacko has Mark to do a cossie for himask Jacko how good he isyou will not get better his car and Nathans cars are concours winners his car wins basicly every show he goes tohis dedication in RS's is unbeleavible and also he is a really nice guy on Marks car and Nathans you will find no defaults
Old 27-08-2009, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CRAIG HAYTER
it would depends how far you would like to go really

thanks for your reply
full floor, rear beam, rear arms, arb, tank and strap?
i've already done my diff, drive shafts and prop
Old 27-08-2009, 06:40 PM
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i can pm you his number and he could give you a pricehonestly you will defo not be disapointed
Old 27-08-2009, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CRAIG HAYTER
i can pm you his number and he could give you a pricehonestly you will defo not be disapointed
just a rough price will do, its just a thought at the minute
Old 27-08-2009, 06:45 PM
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i have just phoned himt to let him know about this post he will give you a ruff price
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Originally Posted by THEDMAN

It didn't work out for John Yaylor,

I thought he just give up doing it not he failed at it
Old 27-08-2009, 07:07 PM
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tbh i couldnt think of anyone better to do this.marks work is awesome and he is a perfectionist. as said it is a risk in this current climate but sometimes you have to take risks.
wish i could get trained properly to detail and open up for myself tbh but i couldnt risk not paying the mortgage.


i will no doubt at somepoint be letting mark loose on mine.but that once i have sorted other bits
Old 27-08-2009, 07:11 PM
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He,s doing Lee,s 3dr at the moment isn,t he Craig??
Old 27-08-2009, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by THEDMAN
It didn't work out for a former RSOC & Autoglym champion up here,

It didn't work out for John Yaylor,

It wouldn't be me!
I thought John just got fedup?
Old 27-08-2009, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by B13 JUS
just a rough price will do, its just a thought at the minute
what car do you have plz
Old 27-08-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullett
tbh i couldnt think of anyone better to do this.marks work is awesome and he is a perfectionist. as said it is a risk in this current climate but sometimes you have to take risks.
wish i could get trained properly to detail and open up for myself tbh but i couldnt risk not paying the mortgage.


i will no doubt at somepoint be letting mark loose on mine.but that once i have sorted other bits
thanks for the nice comment Neil you know Mark he really is a great guy and the way you have described him is better than i have

Originally Posted by Staffi.
He,s doing Lee,s 3dr at the moment isn,t he Craig??

is it a moonstone with comps etc etc on it?if so iam sure he isMark is also building a focus cosworth for himself
Old 27-08-2009, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cossiecrazy


i hope you dont mind about this Mark i was just wondering what people thoughts would beas i really think you staring a business doing this would be good for yourself and members of the public

put some pics of your own car up bud

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John Taylor gave up because of all the grief in doing it , same as Alan patterson

To do this kind of work needs people with very very deep pockets

I have done a few rs500"s and it aint cheap

To do an underside resto will cost between 5 and 6k ( to winning faultless concourse spec ) and if anyone says it can be done for less then they aint doing it right

And how many people have that kind of wonga

I would say there is a gap in the market for a good RS specialist to do small restos upto 2,3 k etc and who can do mechanical repairs , but full blown resto"s no

Paul

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Old 27-08-2009, 07:25 PM
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Paul i agree but i mean as not just doing fords or full blown resto's i mean repairs,servicing,engine rebuilding,problem solving etc etc but at the same time if someone wants a full blown resto it can be done and done to a very high level

cheeRS for you comment
Old 27-08-2009, 07:31 PM
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5-6 k god your expensive paul lol

do it for half that to a very high standard
and if your saying mine isnt then fair doos
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Originally Posted by cossiecrazy
5-6 k god your expensive paul lol

do it for half that to a very high standard
and if your saying mine isnt then fair doos

Mark you get what you pay for ,

wait till you have your own unit to pay for
TAX / Rates / insurance / elecy etc etc

I have done quite a few now and they always work out roughly the same mate

And i mean no weld marks , Painted in 2k primer / sealed / painted in 2k

No selly painted parts etc
If you can do a Faultless resto for less mate the what you waiting for , go for it

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Originally Posted by cossiecrazy
what car do you have plz
3 door cosworth
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i say go for it, if you don't then you will never know.......

there is a risk with walking out the front door these days, just depends how much of a risk you wanna take, and usually, the bigger the risk, the better the reward......!!

i keep meaning to bob down mark, messaged you on escortrscosworth.com, just not had the time.......

and i would defo be banging on the door for a job, as this is what i would love to do, and learn from the best

good luck!

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if its financially viable then i say go for it as you only live once. lifes to short. from the pics the work looks awesome.
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Im on with opening a vts as we speak and i reckon theres a lot of money to be earnt if done properly, being a specialist is something that will take time to establish.
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thanks for the comment guys it would be a local garage aswell for other cars aswell but specailising in Rs's well thats what i was saying to Mark would be a good idea

the things were like this i was susjestion as i would really like to see Mark doing good for himselfand also give member of the public and members on here etc etc a VERY good service as you see the comment above he is cheap for the level he does too cheap if you ask me but thats Mark a great freindly guy will to help anyone

here are some off the idea's and please leave a comment please and how this would be good or bad idea?

1.car servicing on ALL models (not just RS's)

2.mechanical stuff and rebuilds and advice on good ways to do it

3.electrics (of what Mark can do iam very sure he is very capible )

4.body work scratch repair,dents etc etc)

5 mini and full restoration jobs on RS's and some other cars,vans etc etc

6.mot's

Mark get your car pics on PRETTY PLEASE

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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
John Taylor gave up because of all the grief in doing it , same as Alan patterson

To do this kind of work needs people with very very deep pockets

I have done a few rs500"s and it aint cheap

To do an underside resto will cost between 5 and 6k ( to winning faultless concourse spec ) and if anyone says it can be done for less then they aint doing it right

And how many people have that kind of wonga

I would say there is a gap in the market for a good RS specialist to do small restos upto 2,3 k etc and who can do mechanical repairs , but full blown resto"s no

Paul
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alan patterson gave up cause he was pish,and constantly ripped people off

now he can do it to joe public who dont use forums and get away with it
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Originally Posted by L7 KOS
Im on with opening a vts as we speak and i reckon theres a lot of money to be earnt if done properly, being a specialist is something that will take time to establish.

i could do this too i am a tester and have been an authourised examiner for 10 yrs its all about getting the right place
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Originally Posted by col cos1
paul


alan patterson gave up cause he was pish,and constantly ripped people off

now he can do it to joe public who dont use forums and get away with it

Col

Im not going to get into this with you , all i will say is he has a very succesful business and employes quite a few people and is doing very very well , so he cant be that bad
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Originally Posted by col cos1
paul


alan patterson gave up cause he was pish,and constantly ripped people off

now he can do it to joe public who dont use forums and get away with it
Totally agree with col
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Originally Posted by cossiecrazy
i could do this too i am a tester and have been an authourised examiner for 10 yrs its all about getting the right place

Its all about location, been looking for ages and the perfect location has turned up, just booked my AE course and i will need a refresher course as its been two years, apart from that everything is in place.
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Originally Posted by CRAIG HAYTER
thanks for the comment guys it would be a local garage aswell for other cars aswell but specailising in Rs's well thats what i was saying to Mark would be a good idea


Mark get your car pics on PRETTY PLEASE
ok some pics





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see what i mean guys i want this car SO BADLY it hurts
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Originally Posted by CRAIG HAYTER
well put it this way Jacko has Mark to do a cossie for himask Jacko how good he isyou will not get better his car and Nathans cars are concours winners his car wins basicly every show he goes tohis dedication in RS's is unbeleavible and also he is a really nice guy on Marks car and Nathans you will find no defaults
Dedication to RS's is great, but can he fix cars? My Cossie has had again and again problems that are mysterious and impossible for mere mortals to fix. Polishing cars is great, but in my experience it's hard enough to get your RS working properly, let alone looking pretty.
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Originally Posted by CRAIG HAYTER
see what i mean guys i want this car SO BADLY it hurts

is that car not up for sale craig??

looks stunning
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Col

Im not going to get into this with you , all i will say is he has a very succesful business and employes quite a few people and is doing very very well , so he cant be that bad
i hear what your saying paul, i know you get on with the guy

im not going to go on,but do you honestly think id make up my experiance with getting ripped off?

what would be the point?

of course his garage will be doing ok,hes just doing run of the mill stuff now,and probably got a proper mechanic working for him

i should of taken him to trading standards for the bogus shit he done or DIDINT do that he charged me for on my car


i know a guy thats a spark same as myself,but hes rough as fuk,i mean really rough,someone youd never want in your house

he now owns his own company,has done for a few years and doing very well,he has 4 sparks working for him,probably all good guys,do good jobs

so would you trust the company knowing the boss is dodgy as

or go with it cause the staff are ok?

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