Lee Ivatt

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Been hearing the single on zane lowes show a few time, cant wait to buy the album.

Been worth the wait. Grunge is back

So glad they are back on form, R.I.P Layne

Just listen to the riff, love it. Its out of key out of tune and sounds fucking amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmYUGVgOi00

Pardeep

Your late. I've already posted a thread for it

A Looking In View is still better.

And they are not Grunge. Cantrell has stated that himself. He refers to AIC as being a Hard Rock, Bluesy Metal band

Lee Ivatt

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Seattle band from last 80's early 90's, "broke out" with Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam.

Thats Grunge enough for me, I'll call it the Seattle sound if it make you feel better.

Regardless tho, what a great album!

Pardeep

My brother is at the Pearl Jam gig tonight at the 02. Going to go pick him up from Ealing Station in abit.

Yes they were from Seattle but Seattle sound was very recognizable. With AIC you didn't get that. They have a sound that no other band sounds like.

Dude check out Devin Townsends 2009 Album called 'Ki'. I think you'll really dig it.

Glenn_

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I fooking love Nirvana ive got all of there albums.

cathy521

www.gobrandmall.com
So wonderful website!
Do not miss it!

Lee Ivatt

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Ok will check it out, is it downloadable?

Wow Pearl Jam, lucky boy. 'Black' (mix of arron lewis cover and mtv acoustic style) was one of the songs I performed on guitar and sung with a live band at our wedding. Had over 200 people in tears

Arron lewis cover which is how mine kinds sounded with a few extra insturments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE90lUu3gQ8


PJ acoustic MTV - Anyone who hasnt seen this, Just watch how much passion goes in to this, 4 mins on is intense!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DTFwYZ6YJU&feature=fvw

Lee Ivatt

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I can play and sing every song

well youve seen my shrine/montage in the workshop and well my signature.

Have you seen the 'black' youtube link yet, I chalange you not to get goose bumps!

Glenn_

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Show me the pics of shrine then and no i havent seen the black you tube link.Can you play the guitar then.

Lee Ivatt

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Dont suppose anyone saw me as FORD FAIR, was wearing Kurts T shirt he wore when francis was a baby.

Black Tshirt with "Grunge is dead..." on it.

Hese a pic of 2 posters, I have about 50 doted about, but took a lot down as they were rare unique copies and were getting damaged.


...


Ive been playing 15 years or so and im still shit. but trick is to just have fun and enjoy your self......and play what YOU enjoy listening to.

CAN I PLAY GUITAR........Depends on who your asking

I love electric, but i find it sooo much more difficult. the acoustics just seem to feel "Natrural" if that makes sence?

Guitar - 1983 Fender Stratocaster (Squire-3 single coil pick up)

Nirvana - Aneurysm




HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT I MEAN ABOUT BAD HABBITS. IVE EVEN MANAGED TO MARYLIN MANSON SOUND LIKE NIRVANA

Guitar - 1979 Westbury Standard (Solid Mahogany body/ rosewood fret. Gibson Les Paul internals with De Marzio pickups original from factory)
Marylin Manson - The Reflecting God



Told you I was shit..........!!!

Thing is to just enjoy your self!!!

This is nylon (sorry warning I cant sing!)
Guitar - 1969 Mitsuma (build number 006)
Radiohead - Street Spirit


Steel strung

Guitar - 1970's Jim Harley - Colorado Dreadnought CR30/G

Marylin Manson - Dissacioative

Lee Ivatt

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No one else loving the new "chains" song?

roro22

Im loving it!
needed some new music for the van too

charlie luciano

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Grunge sucks on doggie doo, totally wack


Luciano

Graham S1

Me and the missus were at that too. Fucking cool gig. Eddie was quite pissed by the end adfter getting through two bottles of red.

Not hugely into them myself, but surprisingly recognised half the set. Quite a lot from Ten and Vitalogy, but loads of new stuff I didn't know too.

Anyone know why the keyboardist was booed?

Pardeep

I know your a big fooker. But watch it lol

Pardeep

They don't boo him. He is referred to a Boom lol

I was gonna go but we have alot going on in the house hold and i'm also busy working on my first solo album away from a project i've been helping with.

charlie luciano

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How do you know? you was not at my meet on Sunday

I do have some Nirvana tunes down loaded on my pc


Luciano

Pardeep

I've seen you buddy

You may dig the new Alice In Chains stuff. Checking the outing

Glenn_

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Wow your good.Ive always fancyed trying to play the guitar but i didnr want to go out and buy all the gear and find that i carnt do it.

Glenn_

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I love radio head too.Street spirit it a classic.

Glenn_

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I love these vids. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtehDIWrX5U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56fKCvjljMM

Lee Ivatt

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Lol. typical kurt, "fuck you establishment Ill play what i want and how i want" summs up grunge really. Rip dude.

I love the darker stuff, theres lots od early stuff which not many people know

D7 Live at the Reading festival (such a crazy song to mosh to after the chrous breaks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR4RP...eature=related

Sappy is also one of my favorites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BE1KRj5iiM

Lee Ivatt

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Oh glenn also:

verse chrous verse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJpA...eature=related

and

old age acoustic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUBy...eature=related

Moist Vagina (also known as marijana)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW5M8...eature=related

Marigold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXBX3M5FdTM

Oh there are soooo many more.

Mike C

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Hard Rock + Blues = Grunge

AIC are as grunge as grunge can be!

Pardeep

Grunge was more punk than blues (well for Nirvana anyway)

If Jerry Cantrell (AIC Guitarist) says they are not Grunge then they are not Grunge. Yes they broke onto the scene when Grunge was becoming popular but like Cantrell said, Its just a Tag that people will remember you by because of the era and place we came from. As Cantrell is concerned, they are a Metal band.

Mike C

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Well he's wrong. They're nothing like Metal.

Pardeep

Can you even class AIC that the question. They have a sound of their own. No band sounds like them. I don't class them as grunge more than i class them more Dark Rock.

Pob

I agree with pardeep. Alice in chains were a suburban metal band, after nirvana broke big,-AIC adpated their sound slightly to fit in with the 'grunge' sound.
I'll have a look out for AIC new stuff, as music is dead at the mo.

Lee Ivatt- i take it you've got the 'with the lights out' lol.

Lee Ivatt

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Fucking understatment.

Hum lets see

Lilly allen, etc and all the other fucking girls that sing like they are 12 years old

Or twat face bands like Artic Monkies, so all the masses can like it but thing they are coll and different. Wouldnt even give them the grace of labeling them with indy and indy is shite.

I actually prefer calvin harris and dizze rascals stuff at the mo Which for me is totally out of character.

ANd no it dont have "with the lights out" I refuse to buy it due to my grunde ethos

I have most of the songs on all the bootlegs that were flying around in the late 90's on cd.

Thrush

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Oh fuck off Sums up grunge

Fucking punks like the Clash, Pistols, Ramones, etc etc were saying that when Kurt was still shitting in his shorts

I won't piss on anyone's parade or slate their choice of music - some would take the piss out of me for citing Metallica as my all time favourite band, but lets face it - Kurt was no innovator or original. He was just doing what countless others had done before him, just in his own way. Nirvana weren't even THAT good! Don't get me wrong, I listened to them, and they weren't shit, but as musicians, and as a collective, they weren't fantastic. Kurts playing was VERY sloppy, and rather basic. As a band they were only a modern, "chilled punk" act. Bands like AIC, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins that were around at the time were actually far better bands. PJ's "Ten" was SUCH an underrated debut, and is still incredibly underrated today.

Nirvana just had "appeal" - and I hate to say it, with a lot teenage girls. Everyone loves a bad-boy, and at that time, being a miserable, self loathing and media shy bad boy seemed to be what was marketable....

Anyway, I've gone off track. I just wanted to say he was not an innovator, and original, nor a god. Hendrix - legendary innovator : completely changed the way music was played, percieved, written, almost everything! "Dimebag" Darrell Abbot - legend and complete innovator when it came to guitar playing. He drew upon what others like Eddie Van Halen, Hendrix, Paige, etc had touched upon, and completely tore up the rule book. He changed how metal guitar was used and structured. Bands like Sabbath paved the way, bands like Metallica, Anthrax, Aerosmith, Guns N Roses - all different genre's of music, took that lead and improved and innovated the musical scenes - making way for bands like Nirvana to do what they wanted to do....

Lee Ivatt

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Wondered how long it would take for you to show your face mate

I totally agree with everything you say.

But the whole point you make about kurt and nirvana being sloppy and basic is the appeal for me.

Dont get me wrong Nirvana is what i grew up on, and its something that will always be close to my heart. as When i was a teen growing up the music related to me very well.

Im a greater "fan" of all sorts

My top few being

Marylin Mason
Led Zep
Black sabbath/ozzy
Pink floyd
Metalica
3 doors down
skunk ansie
Red hot chillies
Pantera
Pearl jam
Soundgarden

and more bluesy stuff like

Clapton
Hendrix
Robert johnson
Leadbetter


No way do I ever believe kurt was pioneer of music technique, he simply copied and ripped off (he even admitted several time to this) other peoples ideas.

But as a musician for a Generation, and spokes person if you like he was great. He made people realise you dont have to be good, you just have to do you best.

Once again if straying like you now.

Fact is (even with the disagreements on this thread) we are all part of a bigger collective.

That being the passion for "proper" music.

Today ive been listening to the whole jimi hendrix woodstock 2cd album and most of my led zep albums.

ANd i just thought, are we ever going to have anything like this again???

Like i said earlier the biggest thing on the mainsteam "scene" at the mo are artic fucking monkeys

Hence my original post about AIC. Regardless of all our personal slants on the subject.

Its great to hear a record like this, just makes me think maybe music is not "dead".

Thrush

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I'd probably say U2 are the biggest thing on the mainstream scene - poxy Arctic Monkeys haven't done anything for ages now... Yet U2 sold out Wembley Stadium a few nights ago

And I deliberately stayed away from this thread But boredom, being cooped up in the house for a week, got the better of me

I'm off to crush some grunge with some insane metal riffs! Actually no I'm not - I've got AC/DC's back catalogue on random at the mo

Pardeep

Personally I'll take Pearl Jam over anything Nirvana did. Nirvana were great but fact of the matter is that his personality was marketable to the whole world at that time in Music. Which is why they got where they were.

AIC Facelift album pisses over Nirvana's Bleach Album, Dirt pissed all over 'Nevermind' and the self titled AIC album pissed over InUtero. But the only reason they didn't have the publicity that Nirvana had was because Layne Stayley wasn't a twat like Kurt and moaning about how he doesn't like being famous. Kurt didn't like being famous but still recorded albums knowing they would be going out to the public. What twat who doesn't like fame records another album and then bitches and moan about it.

Eddie Vedder, Layne Stayley and Chris Cornell (before he sold out) was what the Seattle Music scene was truly about. Nirvana were just the band that was lucky enough to get the publicity for it.

Pearl Jam's Ten album is still amazing to listen to. PJ have only got better and better as they have matured. Hence i'm always looking forward to their new album. New one out later this year.

If you were to take MTV unplugged Nirvana's isn't as impressive as PJ's. AICs Unplugged blows both of them out the water. That was AIC first show in 3 years and it couldn't have sounded any better than it was. Layne Stayley was doped up and it just added that extra bit of perfection to the show.

No Excuses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf1hRkVnM4

Sludge Factory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdGroI6kx9M

Frogs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5vmQ...eature=related

Compare them to Nirvana's

About a Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOrwVqPlec

On a Plain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OB23...eature=related

Penny Royal Tea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s6QU...eature=related

You can see real musicianship between all the members of AIC. Nirvana never had the musicianship between any of the members.

Compare AIC last song 'Died' done with Layne Stayley to Nirvana's 'I Know Your Right'

AIC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUr4r...rom=PL&index=4

Nirvana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iho1V--8G4

All of Nirvana's lyrics were the same. AIC had some pretty dark lyrics. Take AIC's 'Angry Chair' those lyrics really freaked me out.

What do I see across the way
See myself molded in clay
Stares at me, yeah Im afraid
Changing the shape of his face - AIC Angry Chair 1991

I like Nirvana but i don't see why they over shadow the better bands that came out of Seattle.

Thrush

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No... Hard Rock + Blues would be Aerosmith, or something like Poison's "Native Tongue" record (from after the hair-rock days)

Hard Rock + spliffs = Grunge Spend as much time as you can stoned out of your nut and mellowed out to fuck and then make a record!

Grunge was the fore-runner to "stoner rock"

Pardeep

ROFL

Lee Ivatt

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Glenn_

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Wow top tunes i havent heard them for a while.

Lee Ivatt

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Kind of picking up on Thrush's point AIC are far more technical and tight.

This is my favorite unplugged AIC

Down in a hole
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=150367624810

Considering it was their first concert in 3 years, and laynes drug addiction was killing him. Its a great performance.

Pardeep

Since when did Layne Stayley want to sell a RS1600i Mk3 Escort Black 1983???

Lee Ivatt

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Twat , I copied and pasted the wrong thing, d'oh.

That means someone may well be bidding on an unplugged performance from the past

try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IjUtejhUZM