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Old 18-08-2009, 08:18 PM
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went to the scrap yard today on the off chance that they might have a 2.0 pinto lying around, right in the very back corner of the yard i found an old transit and what was in it, only a bloody 202 block low compression pinto, i was planning to turbo a 205 block but this is much better

so i went to the guy who owns the yard expecting an extortionate price for it and he says i can have it for 85 quid!, he says we'll drag it out, leave a deposit and come and pick it up tomorrow

top stuff, i'm a happy chappy

and its my 23rd birthday, got loads of presents AND found a cheap engine, shit hot
Old 18-08-2009, 08:22 PM
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Old 18-08-2009, 08:34 PM
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i cant wait, going to build it all up then swap it in
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so wots the difference between the 202 and 205 i fort the 205 was the better out the 2 and how do you know its low comp ???

nice buy tho buddie
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apparently the 202 is lower compression in the transit to produce more torque, i had one in my old capri and it was pretty torquey for what it was, does anyone know what a compression test would read on a 205 block? it would be nice to see the real difference
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iirc the 89 on tranny 2.o pintos ran u/l no probs where as old pintos pink like fuck unless you fanny around with the timming or run them on opti or tesco 99.
my mates 2.0 pinto in his mk2 escort rally car pinks with chepo u/l but its ok on opti.
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
iirc the 89 on tranny 2.o pintos ran u/l no probs where as old pintos pink like fuck unless you fanny around with the timming or run them on opti or tesco 99.
my mates 2.0 pinto in his mk2 escort rally car pinks with chepo u/l but its ok on opti.
i think the difference is down to the position of the dizzy isnt it? apart from having harder valve seats is there a difference between a leaded and an unleaded pinto?
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how will lower than standard c/r produce more torque mate? surely less comp on same bore/stroke = less power/torque
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how will lower than standard c/r produce more torque mate? surely less comp on same bore/stroke = less power/torque
not really thought about it to be honest, just what i've been told by a few people, come to think about it you're right, mabey the lower compression is to be more reliable due to it being a commercial engine possibly

i'm going to do a compression test when i get it, i'm still glad i got a 2.0m pinto for 85 squd though
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Originally Posted by Dan1281
not really thought about it to be honest, just what i've been told by a few people, come to think about it you're right, mabey the lower compression is to be more reliable due to it being a commercial engine possibly

i'm going to do a compression test when i get it, i'm still glad i got a 2.0m pinto for 85 squd though

Gotta be for reliability mate it will probably deliver similer torque but less bhp than higher comp version, good luck with it pal
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it should be good, ive got one hell of a turbo to stick to it haha, its going to be fun getting it to work with a carb
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I hope the engine is gonna be ok.That was a bargain.
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a compression test wont tell you the comp. ie 7.2.1 etc...
you need to do a volume test.

there is topics on here that can explain it better than me.
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here's a quote from Chip......

"A compression test will not tell you the commpression ratio of the engine or what the intended compression ratio of the pistons is.

You will need to remove the head and measure the compression ratio to find out what you want to know."


a comp test just basically tells you the health of the pistons/rings,
hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by cossiegreg1
a compression test wont tell you the comp. ie 7.2.1 etc...
you need to do a volume test.

there is topics on here that can explain it better than me.
it wouldnt tell me the CR but it would identify a difference from a 205 pinto, thats all i'm after really, to know if they actually ARE a lower compression
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NO it wont...
i suggest you ask somebody who knows about engines. as you clearly dont.

a comp test basically tests the health of the piston, chamber, rings etc.

What if a 205 block has 10 000 miles on? it will probs comp test 180 per piston
what if your 202 block has 190 000 miles on? it will probs comp test 90 per piston

I hope one day i sell you an engine... i can charge a fortune and tell you its low comp, when really its an old taxi engine, with 500k on the clock!!!

have a look at this topic mate, https://passionford.com/forum/genera...ession+measure

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Originally Posted by cossiegreg1
NO it wont...
i suggest you ask somebody who knows about engines. as you clearly dont.

a comp test basically tests the health of the piston, chamber, rings etc.

What if a 205 block has 10 000 miles on? it will probs comp test 180 per piston
what if your 202 block has 190 000 miles on? it will probs comp test 90 per piston

I hope one day i sell you an engine... i can charge a fortune and tell you its low comp, when really its an old taxi engine, with 500k on the clock!!!

have a look at this topic mate, https://passionford.com/forum/genera...ession+measure
fair enough you have a point, if the engine is tired it wont make a blind bit of difference and i dont know the condition of this engine at all, i'm perfectly aware of how to test the volume and i'm also aware of what a compression test is for, i'm saying that a lower comp engine will have a lower cylinder pressure, i'm not actually too arsed if it isn't lower compression that a 205 but it would be nice to know if what people are saying about the transit pinto is true or just bollocks
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end of the day you got a 202 blocked engine for £85.
class, i would personally strip it and see whats in there and freshen up.
Good luck...
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Originally Posted by cossiegreg1
end of the day you got a 202 blocked engine for £85.
class, i would personally strip it and see whats in there and freshen up.
Good luck...
yeah, its worth grinding the valves in and putting some stem seals in it just for the sake of it, i'm going to have a good go at building a sealed box around the carb and using one of them fuel regs that rise with boost, if it works then great, if not i'll have to find some efi bits or adapt a different manifold or something
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