Any Sparkies near Ipswich?
15-08-2009, 06:09 PM
#81
just finding my feet
i agree it just a way of keeping tabs on the law abiding
it did come about cos his daughter got killed but the fact that the fixings for the knife rack went into a cable that wasnt installed in a prescribed manner meant it was live when if it had been done right she would still be here today and part p wouldnt n
it did come about cos his daughter got killed but the fact that the fixings for the knife rack went into a cable that wasnt installed in a prescribed manner meant it was live when if it had been done right she would still be here today and part p wouldnt n
reason i ask is ive followed where the original wiring went but its all now channeled in the wall and filled over rather than in the fucking conduit that i had with a passion ( the rest of my house is now covered with the fucking stuff)
just off topic but be interesting to know if ive done it right or if i should look at it again
15-08-2009, 06:13 PM
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You wouldn't need to run around, anywhere near your mouth would be ideal. There's that much hot air comes out of there.....
15-08-2009, 07:27 PM
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interesting,,,, whats the perscribed way to do the installation ???
reason i ask is ive followed where the original wiring went but its all now channeled in the wall and filled over rather than in the fucking conduit that i had with a passion ( the rest of my house is now covered with the fucking stuff)
just off topic but be interesting to know if ive done it right or if i should look at it again
reason i ask is ive followed where the original wiring went but its all now channeled in the wall and filled over rather than in the fucking conduit that i had with a passion ( the rest of my house is now covered with the fucking stuff)
just off topic but be interesting to know if ive done it right or if i should look at it again
to a depth oif 50mm or more or in earthed steel conduit or directly between accessories (switchs sockets etc)
These are the basic guidelines we stick to there are others but to best understand them I would recomend looking at them in the bs 7671 regs book on line as they are easier to see as a diagram rather than described
15-08-2009, 08:18 PM
#90
oh indeed you are right,i agree in principle that work should be tested and certified but its the notification of jobs that i disagree with
15-08-2009, 10:07 PM
#92
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15-08-2009, 10:09 PM
#93
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ps: all my wires are seperate rather twin, my shower wiring is black and red 12mm i think,,, its big fuck off stuff for big power showers i got and the most fucking expensive price compared to the next size down but i was recomended it,,,, should that have been blue and brown ?
15-08-2009, 10:34 PM
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I was under the impression that domestic wiring could be installed by anyone providing it was part p certified at the end. I think if you read the guidlines closely it just says that any electrical work should be part p signed off.
15-08-2009, 10:40 PM
#95
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yeah just needs to be approved,, you can still do your own work aslong as a you get a sparky to get a certify it,,,, at the end but when your selling it is the real time it needs to be done,,,, not like the old bill and gonna knock on the door and test the electrics,,,,,,,, besides they would be more interested in the weed plants under the huge lamps rather than the moody wiring to it or the coat hanger bridging the wires on the electric meter
15-08-2009, 10:53 PM
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lol.. The plants would be gone by the time I sell. 
I have just fullly wired my garage/workshop with the help of a friend who works with wiring but is not part P qualified as his job doesn't require it and I just need someone to test it.
If you actually look into it you need an outside light to be passed by the council or a socket in your shed. Come to think of it, anything electircal sould be notified/signed off. However the only time this will be picked up is if you sell and the buyers have a thorough solicitor.
I have just fullly wired my garage/workshop with the help of a friend who works with wiring but is not part P qualified as his job doesn't require it and I just need someone to test it.
If you actually look into it you need an outside light to be passed by the council or a socket in your shed. Come to think of it, anything electircal sould be notified/signed off. However the only time this will be picked up is if you sell and the buyers have a thorough solicitor.
16-08-2009, 06:52 AM
#97
ps: all my wires are seperate rather twin, my shower wiring is black and red 12mm i think,,, its big fuck off stuff for big power showers i got and the most fucking expensive price compared to the next size down but i was recomended it,,,, should that have been blue and brown ?
lol.. The plants would be gone by the time I sell.
I have just fullly wired my garage/workshop with the help of a friend who works with wiring but is not part P qualified as his job doesn't require it and I just need someone to test it.
If you actually look into it you need an outside light to be passed by the council or a socket in your shed. Come to think of it, anything electircal sould be notified/signed off. However the only time this will be picked up is if you sell and the buyers have a thorough solicitor.
I have just fullly wired my garage/workshop with the help of a friend who works with wiring but is not part P qualified as his job doesn't require it and I just need someone to test it.
If you actually look into it you need an outside light to be passed by the council or a socket in your shed. Come to think of it, anything electircal sould be notified/signed off. However the only time this will be picked up is if you sell and the buyers have a thorough solicitor.
thats ifsolicitor is doing his job properly as all they are bothered about is the the HIPS packs,not if the house is safe or not
16-08-2009, 09:00 AM
#99
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if its single insulated it should be in a suitable sized conduit (sounds like it is 10mm` you got it take you have a 10.8kw shower or smaller with quite a long cable run) red n black should be ok end of the the day its the same copper in it,just say it was done before harmonisation but you will have had Borat & Bruski to test & certify anyway!
the switch though can get fucking hot ive noticed which scares me a bit so im looking to get another switch
16-08-2009, 09:19 AM
#100
the shower is actually 8.5kw at the min but i got the larger size to future proof it, theres about 10 meters of cable in total so not sure if thats classed as a long run or not
the switch though can get fucking hot ive noticed which scares me a bit so im looking to get another switch
the switch though can get fucking hot ive noticed which scares me a bit so im looking to get another switch
did best tho,you cant beat a bit of extra girth
check how tight the connections are,if the cable has started to discolour it needs terminating further back,and maybe change the switch (may now be knackered) as it sounds like its arcing 8.5kw should`nt cause that unless a loose connection or faulty switch
16-08-2009, 10:00 AM
#102
just finding my feet
the switch is a single gang size one i was told would be fine,,, it was a bit tight tbh getting the thick cable into the box so im gonna get a larger one when i fit the new shower ( the old shower packed up, thermal cut out tripped in and wont intrip now :Wall:
can you recomend a decent shower switch, wanna do it for the last time now, no more fucking about
can you recomend a decent shower switch, wanna do it for the last time now, no more fucking about
16-08-2009, 10:05 AM
#103
the switch is a single gang size one i was told would be fine,,, it was a bit tight tbh getting the thick cable into the box so im gonna get a larger one when i fit the new shower ( the old shower packed up, thermal cut out tripped in and wont intrip now :Wall:
can you recomend a decent shower switch, wanna do it for the last time now, no more fucking about
can you recomend a decent shower switch, wanna do it for the last time now, no more fucking about
i tend to use GET for anything like a 8.5kw shower
what size back bock have you got? will have really struggled fitting the switch back on anything less than a 47mm
am very surprised you were advised to use a single box with that size cable
how old the shower? spares are available
16-08-2009, 10:09 AM
#104
just finding my feet
i wanted a single block so it would be discrete in the hall way,,,, though it was also just a test to see if i could run a shower off the mains aswell
the shower is a wanky gainsborugh one, no spares available but it was a cheep shitty one anyway,, just bought a mira azora for when i finish the bathroom and gonna change the switch for a proper one to match as ive just ripped apart the bathroom and refitting a new one totally
the shower is a wanky gainsborugh one, no spares available but it was a cheep shitty one anyway,, just bought a mira azora for when i finish the bathroom and gonna change the switch for a proper one to match as ive just ripped apart the bathroom and refitting a new one totally
16-08-2009, 10:25 AM
#105
i wanted a single block so it would be discrete in the hall way,,,, though it was also just a test to see if i could run a shower off the mains aswell
the shower is a wanky gainsborugh one, no spares available but it was a cheep shitty one anyway,, just bought a mira azora for when i finish the bathroom and gonna change the switch for a proper one to match as ive just ripped apart the bathroom and refitting a new one totally
the shower is a wanky gainsborugh one, no spares available but it was a cheep shitty one anyway,, just bought a mira azora for when i finish the bathroom and gonna change the switch for a proper one to match as ive just ripped apart the bathroom and refitting a new one totally
16-08-2009, 10:41 AM
#106
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was as in the depth of the back plate,,, i aint worried about that as the wall is a false wall im locating it on so its made of plaster board and its hollow
16-08-2009, 10:48 AM
#107
no probs then,get a 47mm deep box from newey & eyre they do the best box for you (they have yellow lugs) CEF will be even more awkward when it comes to pushing switch back as you will catch the lugs every time-guaranteed!!!
just reading back thru post do you already have a 47mm box in? cant quite tell
16-08-2009, 10:59 AM
#108
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16-08-2009, 11:06 AM
#109
just finding my feet
no probs then,get a 47mm deep box from newey & eyre they do the best box for you (they have yellow lugs) CEF will be even more awkward when it comes to pushing switch back as you will catch the lugs every time-guaranteed!!!
just reading back thru post do you already have a 47mm box in? cant quite tell
just reading back thru post do you already have a 47mm box in? cant quite tell
its gonna come out now anyway so aint fussed if it aint tbh but theres a good chance it is a 47mm box
16-08-2009, 11:08 AM
#110
just finding my feet
it runs off mains presure so aint sure how that would affect the shower,,, as said it was a cheepo thing to test if the water presure would work and iron out any issues,,,, the thermal cut out is a comon problem though and i can get it changed under warranty just i cant be arsed as i dont want another one
16-08-2009, 01:33 PM
#112
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The Gainsborough was the shower equvalent of a mong, just dribbled.
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