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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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hey guys would it be best to use a rs focus manifold on a 2.1 black top zetec or an rs cvh manifold cheers also what turbos do both use as standerd am i right in thinking the rs cvh use a t3 turbo
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hey guys would it be best to use a rs focus manifold on a 2.1 black top zetec or an rs cvh manifold cheers also what turbos do both use as standerd am i right in thinking the rs cvh use a t3 turbo
use a 200sx one
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use a 200sx one
?? do they fit??

ebay in the US have a lot og them. just look after ZX3 manifold
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?? do they fit??

ebay in the US have a lot og them. just look after ZX3 manifold
its not a direct fit but can be done and not all that hard to do.
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escort rs turbos run t3,focus rs run gt25
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escort rs turbos run t3,focus rs run gt25
cheers mate so if going for a standerd item best go for the escort one as can fit bigger turbo what size do the aftermakret focus ones take t3?
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
cheers mate so if going for a standerd item best go for the escort one as can fit bigger turbo what size do the aftermakret focus ones take t3?
the obx one is a t3 flange
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Originally Posted by crazycage
the obx one is a t3 flange
thats is the one from over the water aint it? also what kinda boost do the standerd escort rs take before a upgrade is needed
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click my sig, there are some pics of my 200sx manifold somewhere lol, they are not great pics tho

i basically cut off the 200sx flange, and modifed a zetec flange to fit, then had it welded on.

they are for a top mount turbo tho, and if its to go a fwd car, then you will either have to cut a bloody great hole in the bonnet, or might get away with turning it upide down
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seems a lot of work when could jus a rs and jsut reloacte battery any better gains?
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heres a pic of the one i made for mine and it works very well.


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the rs manifold will limit the power, but at what leve i dont know. i think they are good for something like 350bhp, although i may be completly wrong. but deffo best for a direct fit.
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Originally Posted by crazycage
heres a pic of the one i made for mine and it works very well.


nice what manifold was that to start with? escort?
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the rs manifold will limit the power, but at what leve i dont know. i think they are good for something like 350bhp, although i may be completly wrong. but deffo best for a direct fit.
cool cheers think ill go for a escort manifold then as they are the t3 and go for a focus rs gear box for the lsd in it
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
nice what manifold was that to start with? escort?
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Originally Posted by crazycage
200sx
cool think escort rs will be best for me as trying build it on a budget what inlet do u have on there looks diffrent what power u running
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
cool think escort rs will be best for me as trying build it on a budget what inlet do u have on there looks diffrent what power u running
i made it, power is over 300hp.
the escort manifold wont bolt onto the head you need to drill and tap it .
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Originally Posted by crazycage
i made it, power is over 300hp.
the escort manifold wont bolt onto the head you need to drill and tap it .
there is adaptor plates avabile for it to the black top head how much it cost for u make
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
there is adaptor plates avabile for it to the black top head how much it cost for u make
a good friend of mine bought one of them adaptors off e-bay and it was a sack of shit so be warned.
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Originally Posted by crazycage
a good friend of mine bought one of them adaptors off e-bay and it was a sack of shit so be warned.
hmmm mite get a proper one made up or change the end of it for a focus end so bolts up nice as got a mate who can weld
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
hmmm mite get a proper one made up or change the end of it for a focus end so bolts up nice as got a mate who can weld
the one on mine cost me £160 to make and the inlet only cost me £30 to build but im a welder.
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Originally Posted by crazycage
the one on mine cost me £160 to make and the inlet only cost me £30 to build but im a welder.
seems quite cheap is the manifold good as i dont really want to use a plastice one
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
seems quite cheap is the manifold good as i dont really want to use a plastice one
i think it works well on my car but im sure some on here will disagree,
its not holding my car back as yet, every time we add more boost it makes more power heres a better pic of it.
ps it started life as a rover inlet.


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are the standerd rover inlet a str8 fit seen them around
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
are the standerd rover inlet a str8 fit seen them around
no you need an adaptor to fit it to the head and you might need to re shape part of the inlet in the bay.
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dam lol this thing is going be expensive i only want around 200bhp to start with
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
dam lol this thing is going be expensive i only want around 200bhp to start with
get a de-comp plate some bigger injectors and t3 and escort manifold and a escort intercooler and some management and you will piss that power .
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Originally Posted by crazycage
get a de-comp plate some bigger injectors and t3 and escort manifold and a escort intercooler and some management and you will piss that power .

are the de-comp plates any good? i was thkning bout building it up with forge rods and pistons to be on safe side as at some point no dowt ill want more boost jow shitty is the adaptor plate for the rs manifold or would i be best getting mate change the lange or sorcing a rs focus one instead
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
are the de-comp plates any good? i was thkning bout building it up with forge rods and pistons to be on safe side as at some point no dowt ill want more boost jow shitty is the adaptor plate for the rs manifold or would i be best getting mate change the lange or sorcing a rs focus one instead
well defo get the rods and pistons mate its by far the best way to go, you will need some up-rated valve springs and a management system what sort of power are you after?? the standard head and cams will do over 350hp easy
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cams i dunno which to run yet? after market was thinking mega suirt or summit like that and as i said too to start with 200 max about 300 bhp out of it

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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
cams i dunno which to run yet? after market was thinking mega suirt or summit like that and as i said too to start with max about 300
this is how i would spec 300hp zetec
bottom end rebuild with steel rods forged pistons
standard head and cams
up-rated valve springs
t34 on a budget / my choice gt2860
good front mount cooler
475cc injectors
tubular manifold
rover inlet
2.5" system
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Originally Posted by crazycage
this is how i would spec 300hp zetec
bottom end rebuild with steel rods forged pistons
standard head and cams
up-rated valve springs
t34 on a budget / my choice gt2860
good front mount cooler
475cc injectors
tubular manifold
rover inlet
2.5" system
thats not a bad list at all i got a 1.8 black top iin there atm i dunno if to turbo that or find a cheap 2.0 head to fit onto it
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
thats not a bad list at all i got a 1.8 black top iin there atm i dunno if to turbo that or find a cheap 2.0 head to fit onto it
build a 2.0l mate , but it wont be cheap to do it right i would bugdet about £5000
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Originally Posted by crazycage
build a 2.0l mate , but it wont be cheap to do it right i would bugdet about £5000
ouch cud u do us a breack down on that please mate and will teh 2.0 head bolt straight on top bottom end
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
ouch cud u do us a breack down on that please mate and will teh 2.0 head bolt straight on top bottom end
donner engine £150
rods and pistons £800
new oil pump £80
crank re grind £50
re-bore £70
new bearings £120
st170 head gasket £30
bottom end gasket set £50
new cam belt £40
new cam belt tensioner £40
valve springs £300
so theres aprox £1800 just in parts to build the bare engine then you have
a good intercooler £350/400
injectors £100/300
inlet, depends what you want ?
exhaust manifold "" ?
turbo"" ?
exhaust system £300
loads of samco for your boost pipes ect
cossie fuel pressure reg £75
management £500/£1200 depends on what you want
and the mapping thats about £100 per hr
it all add up fast i should mate and there will be lods of little things that i have missed

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hi mate there are lots of options of different turbo manifolds for zetecs and lots of prices as well , lets start with the cheapest first

first is cvh erst but you will have to drill and tap the head as they have different bolt patterns £40 for manifold and £50 for drilling and tapping

focus rs manifold but you would need to use a gt28 turbo , £100

then its the obx pretty cheap but have heard that they crack and on more than one
i think they are about £250 on ebay



then theres the hansen turbo manifold that jamsport uses , very well made and built
again i think about £650





then theres area six manifolds which place the turbo over the gearbox , there are 3 stages of build .


cone design good for 500+bhp £550





the new merge collector will out flow the cone design (600+bhp) £650

with merge collector fitted with 2 v band clamps , 1 at the end of the merge collector and 1 at the turbo flange allowing the turbo to be fine adjusted to every cars engine bay (600+bhp) £850

all area six style manifolds can come with external wastegate options

then theres primary designs manifold , very similar to the obx manifold but alot more costly at £1000



or you may be able to get a wrc manifold which cost anything between £700 to £1500 if you can find one and would most probably need cutting and fabricating to fit your engine bay



hope this helps

cheers paul
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Originally Posted by crazycage
donner enging £150
rods and pistons £800
new oil pump £80
crank re grind £50
re-bore £70
new bearings £120
st170 head gasket £30
bottom end gasket set £50
new cam belt £40
new cam belt tensioner £40
valve springs £300
so theres aprox £1800 just in parts to build the bare engine then you have
a good intercooler £350/400
injectors £100/300
inlet, depends what you want ?
exhaust manifold "" ?
turbo"" ?
exhaust system £300
loads of samco for your boost pipes ect
cossie fuel pressure reg £75
management £500/£1200 depends on what you want
and the mapping thats about £100 per hr
it all add up fast i should mate and there will be lods of little things that i have missed
cheers mate thanks for that already got a system on it which i think is 2.5
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Originally Posted by zetaboostboy522bhp
hi mate there are lots of options of different turbo manifolds for zetecs and lots of prices as well , lets start with the cheapest first

first is cvh erst but you will have to drill and tap the head as they have different bolt patterns £40 for manifold and £50 for drilling and tapping

focus rs manifold but you would need to use a gt28 turbo , £100

then its the obx pretty cheap but have heard that they crack and on more than one
i think they are about £250 on ebay



then theres the hansen turbo manifold that jamsport uses , very well made and built
again i think about £650





then theres area six manifolds which place the turbo over the gearbox , there are 3 stages of build .


cone design good for 500+bhp £550





the new merge collector will out flow the cone design (600+bhp) £650

with merge collector fitted with 2 v band clamps , 1 at the end of the merge collector and 1 at the turbo flange allowing the turbo to be fine adjusted to every cars engine bay (600+bhp) £850

all area six style manifolds can come with external wastegate options

then theres primary designs manifold , very similar to the obx manifold but alot more costly at £1000



or you may be able to get a wrc manifold which cost anything between £700 to £1500 if you can find one and would most probably need cutting and fabricating to fit your engine bay



hope this helps

cheers paul
cheers mate very usefull indeed what manifold r u running the one are the car looks sweet is that the obx one? aso i only plan on max 300 bhp so what manifold would u say would be best for that
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Originally Posted by leigh-k18
cheers mate thanks for that already got a system on it which i think is 2.5
it will be 2" if its a focus n/a system
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Originally Posted by crazycage
it will be 2" if its a focus n/a system
ill check tomoz it wa a custom jobby tho guy b4 had it dun
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