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Old 01-06-2009, 06:09 PM
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Default Rivals to the E46 M3?

Just a general Question, talking to my mate today and we was trying to name some, but didn't get very far


Anyone care to name some?, ie: Mercs, Audi's or anything else, similar power, drive, class etc...
Old 01-06-2009, 06:11 PM
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Audi RS6
Merc AMG's
Mazda did something........i remember seeing it on Top Gear
Lexus.....Same again, seen it compaired on Top Gear
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audi rs4,

holden, or vauxhall monaro vxr as their called here, i keep thinking about one!
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bmw 330 cheaper and just as fast
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Originally Posted by gingerman
bmw 330 cheaper and just as fast

Thats not what we was talking about though
Old 01-06-2009, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Thats not what we was talking about though
lol ok
auid a3 quatro i think thats spelt wrong sorry
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330 is not just as fast fact have driven tons of them both although 330 drives better
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What Mercs are there, we couldnt think of any, are they the C class? Don't know what numbers though lol
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CLK AMG63 481bhp 630nm

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Originally Posted by gingerman
bmw 330 cheaper and just as fast
no its not mate, i had a good race with a 330 over the weekend (private road) and nailed it.
pulled loads on it it all the way to 120
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I would say the rs4 is more aimed at the m3 rather than the rs6, 350z also a good comparison, the rx8 also got put in road tests with them but the rx8 is a fair bit slower but also a lot cheaper, and you cant help but look at evo's and impreza's if your thinking about the e46 m3 price range
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lot of people naming cars aimed to beat the M5 not the M3
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IMO the RS4 was competition for the M5, the S4 was an M3 equivalent.
The C class AMGs were also M3 equivalent.
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Originally Posted by gingerman
bmw 330 cheaper and just as fast
No there not, mate had a 56 plate 330d remapped and my 46 M3 Convert was quicker.So much torque from the M car
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audi RS6,S4,S3,S2,COUPE QUATTRO.
should imagine any of these are bmw killers and the old ones are dirt cheap in comparison,if you spent the remainder of the funds against a e46 m3 on a S2 quattro you would have a 500-600bhp 4WD porsche eating monster,for less money and including your insurance premium up front.
IMO new new cars are poorly made,based on the emphasism of cost cutting and fuel efficiency,and they look cheap and tacky on the inside,you can have far more of a car for a lot less money if youre willing to comprimise and not have to drive on the new 09 plate to compete with the joneses,boss or whoever.
just my opinion
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The Merc C32/C55AMG and Audi S4 have been tested against the E46 M3.

IIRC the Audi S4 was quicker around the Top Gear track than the M3 and the Mercs quicker in a straight line.
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Originally Posted by carlo
330 is not just as fast fact have driven tons of them both although 330 drives better
Absolutly agree
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Originally Posted by northerner
The Merc C32/C55AMG and Audi S4 have been tested against the E46 M3.

IIRC the Audi S4 was quicker around the Top Gear track than the M3 and the Mercs quicker in a straight line.
Yep the old C32 AMG was a stormer in a straight line around the turn of this century. I think the engine was finished off by hand assembly - nobody really looks twice at them - they've got an autobox and hook up really well - 0-60 in 4.6 in the timed Autocar test - not too bad for a rwd saloon car that doesn't stand out too much
As fast to 100 as the fastest time I've seen for a Lotus Carlton ( I seem to remember that someone (maybe JJdeCox75 ) bought one )
The C63 AMG has taken over the baton now, also got the old v8 RS4 ( no longer made ) and the Lexus IS-F

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i stand corrected
all my facts come from a stretch of road private of course lol
where my mates 330 could reach the same speed as his m3 dont get me wrong the m3 on open road pissed all over the 330
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Originally Posted by jamieRST
audi RS6,S4,S3,S2,COUPE QUATTRO.
should imagine any of these are bmw killers and the old ones are dirt cheap in comparison,if you spent the remainder of the funds against a e46 m3 on a S2 quattro you would have a 500-600bhp 4WD porsche eating monster,for less money and including your insurance premium up front.
IMO new new cars are poorly made,based on the emphasism of cost cutting and fuel efficiency,and they look cheap and tacky on the inside,you can have far more of a car for a lot less money if youre willing to comprimise and not have to drive on the new 09 plate to compete with the joneses,boss or whoever.
just my opinion
Jamie
Can't fault my S2, 455hp on stock internals isn't shabby
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