mini bore out to a 1480 or change the block for a metro turo
23-02-2014, 07:22 PM
#41
So once you say 180bhp, then you say 320bhp....without NOS, and you also say Mini gearboxes are fine...which they are not.
You say the 3 bolt casing is stronger...which it is compared to the 4 bolt. But with any decent amount of power/torque this casing will still split at the centre web unless some form of strengthening is undertaken.
Then those fine mini gearboxes that can last 84k ( driving Miss Daisy perhaps )....which you dont actually use as you say yours has 6 gears.
Then you post videos and details of someone elses mini, almost as if it were your own ?
Now why do you think some people might disbelieve you ? How do you think you're coming across in this thread ?
You say the 3 bolt casing is stronger...which it is compared to the 4 bolt. But with any decent amount of power/torque this casing will still split at the centre web unless some form of strengthening is undertaken.
Then those fine mini gearboxes that can last 84k ( driving Miss Daisy perhaps )....which you dont actually use as you say yours has 6 gears.
Then you post videos and details of someone elses mini, almost as if it were your own ?
Now why do you think some people might disbelieve you ? How do you think you're coming across in this thread ?
23-02-2014, 07:39 PM
#42
so why would you want to do that !!!
that is simply stupid and a remark I'd expect from somebody who knows bugger all about cars !
If you buy a shit escort you will get the same results chap
If you know anything about cars you will also know that it doesn't matter what car it is, who made it or even what colour it is..... with the right work and amount of expense you will get a good car... this even works on Escorts
that is simply stupid and a remark I'd expect from somebody who knows bugger all about cars !
If you buy a shit escort you will get the same results chap
If you know anything about cars you will also know that it doesn't matter what car it is, who made it or even what colour it is..... with the right work and amount of expense you will get a good car... this even works on Escorts
Even new the minis were a poor car in every sense, and no matter what i have seen people do to them they never really improve.
23-02-2014, 07:41 PM
#43
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Ditch The a series and put a vauxhall c20let (subframe conversion is about 800 quid)
That or an type r engine conversion.
I have had 9 minis including a mini maxi (1900 Austin maxi engine and drums all round)
That or an type r engine conversion.
I have had 9 minis including a mini maxi (1900 Austin maxi engine and drums all round)
24-02-2014, 02:27 AM
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So once you say 180bhp, then you say 320bhp....without NOS, and you also say Mini gearboxes are fine...which they are not.
You say the 3 bolt casing is stronger...which it is compared to the 4 bolt. But with any decent amount of power/torque this casing will still split at the centre web unless some form of strengthening is undertaken.
Then those fine mini gearboxes that can last 84k ( driving Miss Daisy perhaps )....which you dont actually use as you say yours has 6 gears.
Then you post videos and details of someone elses mini, almost as if it were your own ?
Now why do you think some people might disbelieve you ? How do you think you're coming across in this thread ?
You say the 3 bolt casing is stronger...which it is compared to the 4 bolt. But with any decent amount of power/torque this casing will still split at the centre web unless some form of strengthening is undertaken.
Then those fine mini gearboxes that can last 84k ( driving Miss Daisy perhaps )....which you dont actually use as you say yours has 6 gears.
Then you post videos and details of someone elses mini, almost as if it were your own ?
Now why do you think some people might disbelieve you ? How do you think you're coming across in this thread ?
So you think that in 30+ years I have only had one Mini ? you muppit LOL
The casing will split if you don't stress relieve it, remachine for larger bearings and larger layshafts etc...
As you so obviously know bugger all, I'll tell you, the 6 speed is a modified casting, designed by JKD and cast for Rover to machine on the standard production line, the material is a higher grade, although not as good as the earlier Cooper S magnesium casings it is a lot stronger than standard, the last 1000 production Mini's had these cases, easily noticeable by the JKD cast in the front.
On this forum there are those who know that certain things have to be done to any car to raise its reliability, in the main those same people also respect that not everything is FORD
Like I said above, I couldn't gaff if you believe me or not the proof is there for anyone to find
And with over 30 years of listening to bigots I have learned to ignore them.
I was asked for proof of the 320bhp A series I added the information I found easily, now maybe you should read the whole post properely.
24-02-2014, 02:35 AM
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How many times did ford win the Monte Carlo ?? Mini won it 3 times and the 4th was lost on a headlamp technicality
In 68 to combat the RS3.1 4x4 Capri, Leyland released a 4x4 8 port 124BHP Mini, compared to the Capri's 130 or so... The Mini won the Scottish rallye out right, Mind you Capri's where not best suited to slippery conditions, looked great on the circuit though.
24-02-2014, 08:00 AM
#46
When exactly di dI say I had 320 bhp ? I said the highest output I know about is 320 from an A series Mini engine !!!
So you think that in 30+ years I have only had one Mini ? you muppit LOL
The casing will split if you don't stress relieve it, remachine for larger bearings and larger layshafts etc...
As you so obviously know bugger all, I'll tell you, the 6 speed is a modified casting, designed by JKD and cast for Rover to machine on the standard production line, the material is a higher grade, although not as good as the earlier Cooper S magnesium casings it is a lot stronger than standard, the last 1000 production Mini's had these cases, easily noticeable by the JKD cast in the front.
On this forum there are those who know that certain things have to be done to any car to raise its reliability, in the main those same people also respect that not everything is FORD
Like I said above, I couldn't gaff if you believe me or not the proof is there for anyone to find
And with over 30 years of listening to bigots I have learned to ignore them.
I was asked for proof of the 320bhp A series I added the information I found easily, now maybe you should read the whole post properely.
So you think that in 30+ years I have only had one Mini ? you muppit LOL
The casing will split if you don't stress relieve it, remachine for larger bearings and larger layshafts etc...
As you so obviously know bugger all, I'll tell you, the 6 speed is a modified casting, designed by JKD and cast for Rover to machine on the standard production line, the material is a higher grade, although not as good as the earlier Cooper S magnesium casings it is a lot stronger than standard, the last 1000 production Mini's had these cases, easily noticeable by the JKD cast in the front.
On this forum there are those who know that certain things have to be done to any car to raise its reliability, in the main those same people also respect that not everything is FORD
Like I said above, I couldn't gaff if you believe me or not the proof is there for anyone to find
And with over 30 years of listening to bigots I have learned to ignore them.
I was asked for proof of the 320bhp A series I added the information I found easily, now maybe you should read the whole post properely.
And I'll repeat again....you posted as if it was yours, and as if the 320bhp was yours. And posting a magazine type article or video is not truth. It is a magazine article and almost all are full of shit often stating potential HP, rather than real HP. Matt's car is a super little car, Ive met Matt on a few occasions, and certainly you are not him, he doesnt have such a terrible attitude. He's a good guy.
Why not read back through and see how it came across ?
You really do come across as a ballbag though regardless if there is any substance behind it, and your attitude makes it even harder to believe anything you say
And as said, the standard casings are shit and will break with any decent amount of power, yet you alluded that yours used a standard casing and is fine for 84k. As I say, fine if you're driving Miss Daisy or else your power claims are make believe.
Now you're saying the 6 speed uses a totally different casing...guess that factory casing isnt so good after all then ?
You are talking a lot of drivel even if there is some truth behind what you say. And having built and tuned turbocharged Mini's some 20 years ago and much faster than anything in the UK at that time...I think I know a little more than you suspect.
I was probably ripping the teeth of straight cut gears and splitting gear cases before you even knew where a turbocharger could go on a Mini. And they certainly didnt last 84k....or 20k at a time.
But of course, some peoples HP claims or dreams are vastly different to reality.
24-02-2014, 08:29 AM
#47
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
When exactly di dI say I had 320 bhp ? I said the highest output I know about is 320 from an A series Mini engine !!!
So you think that in 30+ years I have only had one Mini ? you muppit LOL
The casing will split if you don't stress relieve it, remachine for larger bearings and larger layshafts etc...
As you so obviously know bugger all, I'll tell you, the 6 speed is a modified casting, designed by JKD and cast for Rover to machine on the standard production line, the material is a higher grade, although not as good as the earlier Cooper S magnesium casings it is a lot stronger than standard, the last 1000 production Mini's had these cases, easily noticeable by the JKD cast in the front.
On this forum there are those who know that certain things have to be done to any car to raise its reliability, in the main those same people also respect that not everything is FORD
Like I said above, I couldn't gaff if you believe me or not the proof is there for anyone to find
And with over 30 years of listening to bigots I have learned to ignore them.
I was asked for proof of the 320bhp A series I added the information I found easily, now maybe you should read the whole post properely.
So you think that in 30+ years I have only had one Mini ? you muppit LOL
The casing will split if you don't stress relieve it, remachine for larger bearings and larger layshafts etc...
As you so obviously know bugger all, I'll tell you, the 6 speed is a modified casting, designed by JKD and cast for Rover to machine on the standard production line, the material is a higher grade, although not as good as the earlier Cooper S magnesium casings it is a lot stronger than standard, the last 1000 production Mini's had these cases, easily noticeable by the JKD cast in the front.
On this forum there are those who know that certain things have to be done to any car to raise its reliability, in the main those same people also respect that not everything is FORD
Like I said above, I couldn't gaff if you believe me or not the proof is there for anyone to find
And with over 30 years of listening to bigots I have learned to ignore them.
I was asked for proof of the 320bhp A series I added the information I found easily, now maybe you should read the whole post properely.
TBH I think your trolling on here.
You Join a ford forum, to ask about austin minis, then rubbish everyones advice.
If you know the answers and have 30+ years experience, why are you asking us?
a big case of if your dogs black my dogs blacker I think?
24-02-2014, 08:40 AM
#48
He isnt asking advice, he is trying to give it, albeit very badly.
But it does sound like he is plucking a lot of info from the internet as opposed to having that actual knowledge and experience himself.
He may have some knowledge, he may have some experience, but he isnt showing it particularly well.
But it does sound like he is plucking a lot of info from the internet as opposed to having that actual knowledge and experience himself.
He may have some knowledge, he may have some experience, but he isnt showing it particularly well.
24-02-2014, 09:20 AM
#49
Happily retired
If you polish a turd all you have is shiny shit, minis have to be the worst car I have ever owned or modified or driven.
I would never own one again ever. They couldn't handle the standard power never mind ploughing loads of money into one to make it handle even worse (if that is possible).
Each to their own I suppose.
I would never own one again ever. They couldn't handle the standard power never mind ploughing loads of money into one to make it handle even worse (if that is possible).
Each to their own I suppose.
I always thought i would return to Mini's when i started to mod cars again but time had seen them surpassed by other cars. Still love them though & would still own one if I was not quite so past it
. Its comfort of the Merc these days against teeth chattering mayhem of a modded Mini. Nice memories though.
24-02-2014, 09:28 AM
#50
That's the thing that kills Minis. I think they're great too, I still have mine...even if it is largely a pile of rust now.
But we move onto comfier and faster cars !
I'll maybe build another some day, hopefully a van. But that's a long way off happening.
But I'm sure I'd build another Mini before I'd build another Ford lol.
But we move onto comfier and faster cars !
I'll maybe build another some day, hopefully a van. But that's a long way off happening.
But I'm sure I'd build another Mini before I'd build another Ford lol.
24-02-2014, 04:06 PM
#52
Ok, so this is n old post...... however anyone searching for this information really needs to know the facts........
Firstly a 1275 Mini engine can be bored to 1425 with a standard stroke using 74.7mm pistons from the TRIUMPH ENGINE RANGE
Secondly although a 1275 Mini engine cannot be overbored to 1480 they can be "stroked" to 1596cc .... 74.7mm pistons with a Farndon or similar 91mm crank.
Turbo Mini engines are now able to put out in excess of 200BHP
Gearboxes for Classic Mini can be modified to accept 200BHP with pretty good reliability, ie 10,000 miles is reasonable mileage.
Fitting Honda or Vauxhall engines in to Mini's often result in less acceleration as 1st gear is far too low, the gear ratio's are more suited to a full race engine but on the road
In 1968 the British Vita Min (yes it was a pun) run a 1293 turbo with 180BHP, in the mid 80's the turbo challenge ran 240bhp as a norm, since then better machining practices on better materials have resulted in some astounding leaps forward, 16v turbo 1380 .... reputedly putting out 275BHP
My own six speed Aseries dog box has bearings and shafts that can take more than twice the old unit......
it's back to weight transfer now as some of the quicker Mini's are getting in the 11 sec's 1/4 mile at over 125mph.
Firstly a 1275 Mini engine can be bored to 1425 with a standard stroke using 74.7mm pistons from the TRIUMPH ENGINE RANGE
Secondly although a 1275 Mini engine cannot be overbored to 1480 they can be "stroked" to 1596cc .... 74.7mm pistons with a Farndon or similar 91mm crank.
Turbo Mini engines are now able to put out in excess of 200BHP
Gearboxes for Classic Mini can be modified to accept 200BHP with pretty good reliability, ie 10,000 miles is reasonable mileage.
Fitting Honda or Vauxhall engines in to Mini's often result in less acceleration as 1st gear is far too low, the gear ratio's are more suited to a full race engine but on the road
In 1968 the British Vita Min (yes it was a pun) run a 1293 turbo with 180BHP, in the mid 80's the turbo challenge ran 240bhp as a norm, since then better machining practices on better materials have resulted in some astounding leaps forward, 16v turbo 1380 .... reputedly putting out 275BHP
My own six speed Aseries dog box has bearings and shafts that can take more than twice the old unit......
it's back to weight transfer now as some of the quicker Mini's are getting in the 11 sec's 1/4 mile at over 125mph.
Oh please I wish you armchair types would do your home work.....
1480cc Mini engine is a combination of 74mm bore x 86mm stroke, any maths types can easily prove this !
The crank is NOT a standard item, it has to be a bespoke crank or made from a brand new forging (rare to say the least).
The pistons are NOT NOTtriumph but well respected OMEGA's or similar, can be Simca if you can get them.
1635cc is the biggest possible A series that I have built !!! yes built not talked about people.
This is 74.7 (triumph pistons) by 93mm stroke, not overly reliable but s*** loads of torque.
anything over 84mm stroke will need an older A series block
and to stroke a standard crank you will again need an A series as the A+ has rolled fillets and is not any use for offset grinding
1480cc Mini engine is a combination of 74mm bore x 86mm stroke, any maths types can easily prove this !
The crank is NOT a standard item, it has to be a bespoke crank or made from a brand new forging (rare to say the least).
The pistons are NOT NOTtriumph but well respected OMEGA's or similar, can be Simca if you can get them.
1635cc is the biggest possible A series that I have built !!! yes built not talked about people.
This is 74.7 (triumph pistons) by 93mm stroke, not overly reliable but s*** loads of torque.
anything over 84mm stroke will need an older A series block
and to stroke a standard crank you will again need an A series as the A+ has rolled fillets and is not any use for offset grinding
Was that stuff that you typed you are not only confusing us it also seems your self .
I am sure as there is more but tbh I cant be arsed with your stinky attitude any more
.There are far more helpful,knowledgeable,friendly people on here to chat with.For me you can go and boil your head
24-02-2014, 05:00 PM
#53
Matts been raising the bar with his mini for 15+ years now that I have known of him.
Cool stuff. But he has spent phone numbers and it's not the way to spec a daily car on a budget. Lol.
So talk of 320bhp is very out of context.
Cool stuff. But he has spent phone numbers and it's not the way to spec a daily car on a budget. Lol.
So talk of 320bhp is very out of context.
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24-02-2014, 06:27 PM
#54
Happily retired
Thats true 
.
Its hard to imagine that our criteria for a fast car back then was 0-60 sub 10 & 100mph without splitting a gut. My Mini was sub 8.5 so felt like a Veyron compared to the cars we met on the road.
Different times & so much fun. Biggest difference was we were really into our cars & didnt spend multiple hours on the internet telling people how fast our cars might be Im as much to blame as anyone its just that Modern Petrolheads are so different.
.Its hard to imagine that our criteria for a fast car back then was 0-60 sub 10 & 100mph without splitting a gut. My Mini was sub 8.5 so felt like a Veyron compared to the cars we met on the road.
Different times & so much fun. Biggest difference was we were really into our cars & didnt spend multiple hours on the internet telling people how fast our cars might be
Im as much to blame as anyone its just that Modern Petrolheads are so different.
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