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Old 08-12-2004, 09:00 AM
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Default Ebay Poll - Shall I leave negative feedback or not?

I received an item that I won on ebay yesterday.

I paid £2.50 for the postage, but it was only posted 1st Class costing 28p.

I think this is taking the piss a bit, so should I leave the guy negative feedback.

The item is exactly as I expected, it's just the postage cost that's annoyed me!

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Old 08-12-2004, 09:01 AM
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If he stated the item was going to cost that much before you bid then NO !!

Its your fault for bidding IMHO
Old 08-12-2004, 09:04 AM
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i think to be honest most people over charge on the postage, it's up to the bidder really to check the cost of postage and if you don't like it then don't bid. if the item is as you expected then you should leave positive feedback.
Old 08-12-2004, 09:06 AM
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everyone overcharges on the postage!

still annoying tho

ebay tried to clamp down on it by making you list HOW its gonna be posted (ie by courier, which courier, which method etc. etc. so buyers can check up on if sellers are rippin em off...
Old 08-12-2004, 09:14 AM
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i put £5 on all my items unless they were big i never increaed it.

it takes MY time to send it so they should pay, whether it cost 50p or £5
Old 08-12-2004, 09:19 AM
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i voted no. you can see how much it will cost to post, so you take account of that with how much you bid.

if somethings worth a tenner to you, and the postage is gonna be a fiver, don't bid more than a fiver. simple.

and as spiky says, it's not just about the postage cost, it also takes time.
Old 08-12-2004, 09:21 AM
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I think you'd be out of order leaving negative feedback.

You knew it was £2.50 postage.

Don't forget he's got to buy the box for it to go in, the bubble wrap, the selotape. The petrol to go to the post office......

That why it's Postage and Packing.
Old 08-12-2004, 09:46 AM
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i always charge high postage but if your not happy with it dont bid on it imo bubble wrap boxes tape all costs ebay would of shown you how much postage before you bid if you wasnt happy paying that amount why bid
Old 08-12-2004, 10:38 AM
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I charged someone £5 on an item a while ago.......... item sold for £1 and cost me £6.09 postage...... work that out.......lol

+ feedback all the way, if I fell the postage is too high I won't bid unless its a 1 off thing I really want
Old 08-12-2004, 10:53 AM
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thats the joys of ebay m8
Old 08-12-2004, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
I think you'd be out of order leaving negative feedback.

You knew it was £2.50 postage.

Don't forget he's got to buy the box for it to go in, the bubble wrap, the selotape. The petrol to go to the post office......

That why it's Postage and Packing.
EXACTLY

Dont forget EBAY charge you for listing the item and then if using paypal they charge you too ! so whatever an item gets sold for isnt what the seller ends up with its actually less
Old 08-12-2004, 11:33 AM
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i voted no aswell and agree with the above.

when i first started on ebay i only charged the exact amount but like said above you can end up being out of pocket sometimes.

if your really bothered leave a neutral or email the guy with your concern
Old 08-12-2004, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
I think you'd be out of order leaving negative feedback.

You knew it was £2.50 postage.

Don't forget he's got to buy the box for it to go in, the bubble wrap, the selotape. The petrol to go to the post office......

That why it's Postage and Packing.
totally agree!!

and which tight arse's voted YES ?
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Jesus christ guys calm down it's only ebay!

I'm too scared to leave any negative feedback now in case any of you come after me!

I bet nobody dares leave you guys bad feedback!

I can see your point/s but he spent 30p max on an envelope, 28p on postage and a few seconds chucking the items in the envelope. Yes it took a bit of time to go and post the item, but I still think it's wrong.

When I sell stuff the postage I put is basically the postage it costs.

I was prepared to pay £2.50 for postage, but I expected at least recorded delivery for that.

I know you have to pay to advertise on ebay and to use PayPal but that's his decision not mine, why should I subsidise his PayPal fees? He's the seller I'm the buyer, you guys seem to be seeing it from a sellers point of view.

And the guy hasn't even left me any feedback and I paid up within minutes of the auction ending!
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I never leave feedback as a seller until the buyer has left feedback about me

On the same note, I always makes sure I leave feedback once item has been received
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Originally Posted by gurnE
I never leave feedback as a seller until the buyer has left feedback about me

On the same note, I always makes sure I leave feedback once item has been received
That's not fair!

I as the buyer have fulfilled my obligation by purchasing the item, the feedback I receive as a buyer should have nothing to do with the feedback I leave. That's just out of order.

I've acted 100% correctly as a buyer, there's nothing more for me to do so he should leave me positive feedback as soon as I've paid.

Your way leaves you with all the cards.
Old 08-12-2004, 01:02 PM
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I do my best to only ever charge the cost of P&P. The worst lot are the computer parts people - £10 to post a motherboard is a f***in joke!

Can't leave neg feedback but neutral is entirely justified imvho, unless the auction details explain why he's charged so much.

Also worth checking that it was advertised as first class postage - if it was advertised as, say, recorded, etc, then negative feedback all the way as it's not properly described.

eBay should force you to enter the package weight and postage type and calculate postage costs plus a %age or fixed amount per weight band instead of allowing sellers to say how much postage is.

/shedmunki
Old 08-12-2004, 01:11 PM
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I've just checked and it actually states 1st Class Standard, but the charge was stated as £2.95 and not £2.50 as I originally thought it was.

I think ebay should make it a rule that sellers should leave feedback first, there should be no option to leave the seller feedback until the buyer has received theirs!
Old 08-12-2004, 01:17 PM
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For me to post something:

50p to Park in Saunsbury's Car park (cheapest)
£2 min. in petrol to drive to town and back
£1.00 for a box from the post office.
£1.00 for some bubble wrap
£0.75p for a roll of sellotape
£0.28p for the stamp

Now thats more than 2.95 postage and packing!

Thats nothing to do with ebay fees.
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Originally Posted by gurnE
I never leave feedback as a seller until the buyer has left feedback about me

On the same note, I always makes sure I leave feedback once item has been received
im the same ebays a game you just gotta no how to play it if not you get played
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and being a powerseller with 100% positive and a rating of 178 think im a player
Old 08-12-2004, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
For me to post something:

50p to Park in Saunsbury's Car park (cheapest)
£2 min. in petrol to drive to town and back
£1.00 for a box from the post office.
£1.00 for some bubble wrap
£0.75p for a roll of sellotape
£0.28p for the stamp

Now thats more than 2.95 postage and packing!

Thats nothing to do with ebay fees.
Is it the buyers fault you live so far from the Post Office? No
Is it the buyers fault you buy expensive boxes? No
Is it the buyers fault you have to pay to park in Sainsbury's? No
Do you use a roll of sellotape per parcel? No
Do you use all your bubble wrap per parcel? No

Maybe you should wait until you have more than one item to post and then you can split the cost of petrol, parking etc over all the parcels!

My parcel arrived in a padded envelope with a 28p stamp on it. No sellotape, no bubble wrap, no box!

I hope he had to drive 500 miles to the nearest post office in a big old van (Uses lots of petrol) and that he got a parking ticket whilst he was there!

I'm not bitter!
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Originally Posted by cossiecrew
and being a powerseller with 100% negative and a rating of 178 think im a player
100% negative? Good going mate!
Old 08-12-2004, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by M7 COS
Originally Posted by gurnE
I never leave feedback as a seller until the buyer has left feedback about me

On the same note, I always makes sure I leave feedback once item has been received
That's not fair!

I as the buyer have fulfilled my obligation by purchasing the item, the feedback I receive as a buyer should have nothing to do with the feedback I leave. That's just out of order.

I've acted 100% correctly as a buyer, there's nothing more for me to do so he should leave me positive feedback as soon as I've paid.

Your way leaves you with all the cards.
How is it unfair?

As a buyer I leave feedback as soon as the item is received as described.

As a seller I expect other buyers to leave me feedback as soon as they have received my item and are happy with it.

Feedback is more important to sellers in my opinion so you don't get any from me as a seller until I've received some from you.

If I took the same stance when I buy things then that would be unfair but as soon as I receive the item I leave feedback.
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Yes it is your fault. He quoted the cost it will cost him to post. you agreed. End of story.

So what if you could post it cheaper?

Originally Posted by M7 COS
Originally Posted by Jon ERST S2
For me to post something:

50p to Park in Saunsbury's Car park (cheapest)
£2 min. in petrol to drive to town and back
£1.00 for a box from the post office.
£1.00 for some bubble wrap
£0.75p for a roll of sellotape
£0.28p for the stamp

Now thats more than 2.95 postage and packing!

Thats nothing to do with ebay fees.
Is it the buyers fault you live so far from the Post Office? No
Is it the buyers fault you buy expensive boxes? No
Is it the buyers fault you have to pay to park in Sainsbury's? No
Do you use a roll of sellotape per parcel? No
Do you use all your bubble wrap per parcel? No

Maybe you should wait until you have more than one item to post and then you can split the cost of petrol, parking etc over all the parcels!

My parcel arrived in a padded envelope with a 28p stamp on it. No sellotape, no bubble wrap, no box!

I hope he had to drive 500 miles to the nearest post office in a big old van (Uses lots of petrol) and that he got a parking ticket whilst he was there!

I'm not bitter!
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I didn't say it wasn't my fault.

I just think it takes the piss.

And now this hold feedback issue thing has annoyed me too.

I'm just in a mood because I'm having a shit week!!!!
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Originally Posted by M7 COS
Originally Posted by gurnE
I never leave feedback as a seller until the buyer has left feedback about me

On the same note, I always makes sure I leave feedback once item has been received
That's not fair!

I as the buyer have fulfilled my obligation by purchasing the item, the feedback I receive as a buyer should have nothing to do with the feedback I leave. That's just out of order.

I've acted 100% correctly as a buyer, there's nothing more for me to do so he should leave me positive feedback as soon as I've paid.

Your way leaves you with all the cards.
How is it unfair?

As a buyer I leave feedback as soon as the item is received as described.

As a seller I expect other buyers to leave me feedback as soon as they have received my item and are happy with it.

Feedback is more important to sellers in my opinion so you don't get any from me as a seller until I've received some from you.

If I took the same stance when I buy things then that would be unfair but as soon as I receive the item I leave feedback.
How is it unfair? I'll tell you how!

Because the BUYER has already fulfilled their obligation to you. They have kept their end of the bargain and you should give them appropriate feedback.

The buyer cannot not give the seller feed back until they have received the item and are happy with it.

The seller can give feedback as soon as payment is received/cleared. Which is what you should do, not wait until you've been given positive feedback. Then it's like "Tit for Tat" or "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours"!!!
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Jon, if it costs you that much to post something then fine, as long as your advert explains that - buyers are perfectly entitled to feel unfairly treated if they can't see the reasons behind costs being so high.

I know sellers aren't obliged to explain their cost breakdowns, but sometimes (e.g. when selling on ebay) it's good customer service to go the extra mile to explain these things.

/al
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do explain how it's taking the piss? He charged you what it cost him (or less!) to post and pack it. Where is the problem??

There are enough bad ebayers out there without people getting negative feedback for no reason! Save your negative feedback for when you buy something and nothing turns up!!!
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How can you be annoyed about them holding feedback?

I won't post positive feedback until I hear what a buyer has to say!

I got a positive feedback but with a quote in it saying that he was annoyed at being over charged for the p&p (because I charged £5 postage and it cost me £3 to send the package - not including the cost of packaging and my time to post the damn thing in a post office!) - I felt like tearing the scrote's eyeballs out and feeding them to my cat to be honest but I let it slide!

I think you should lighten up mate - if you were to give him a negative feedback (which I think is unfair as it's the unwritten rule on eBay that the postage overprice is to cover the fees of setting up the auction) then I think you've completely missed the point of eBay.

And on a side note - how fucking anal are you!?!?!?

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And it's only Wednesday
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Originally Posted by andyhardy
And on a side note - how fucking anal are you!?!?!?

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guys guys guys its only £2.50 go take up knitting or something if youve got nothing better to do with your time then moan about £2.50
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Get your haircut Andy you twat!!!
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IMO NO. The charges were set out in front of you.

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I'm more annoyed about this feedback issue now!!

As I said, bad week, everything and anything is pissing me off!!!
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Originally Posted by M7 COS
Get your haircut Andy you twat!!!
Too late - did that on Monday

Haven't you better go and scrape up £2.22 from your pocket?
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Originally Posted by andyhardy
Originally Posted by M7 COS
Get your haircut Andy you twat!!!
Too late - did that on Monday

Haven't you better go and scrape up £2.22 from your pocket?
Apolgies for the earlier comment, the "twat" bit was out of order. You did need a haircut though.

Actually it's £2.67 I need to find as the postage was £2.95 not £2.50 as I thought!!!

Oh by the way I am very anal (No gay remarks please!!)
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I see haircuts as a bi-annual kinda thing!

No offense taken - I get called far worse every day by my brother!
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Originally Posted by M7 COS
Originally Posted by cossiecrew
and being a powerseller with 100% negative and a rating of 178 think im a player
100% negative? Good going mate!
lmfao may make a bit of money through ebay but im still a thick coont


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