studabear

can't believe all the arguing on this site

Ad4m RST

Focus RS? sorted Mk1 & 2 Escort & Fiesta's?

But hear what you're saying...has got clicky

andy-rs

rs_daz

They are what they are.
Ive own a fair share of them over the years std and tuned.
But in the end got bored with the power and wanted something with a Turbo and over 300hp.
They are very reliable tho.

It's Czech Mate

Standard for standard if I spent a grand on a 2wd RS2000 and a grand on a FRST/ERST i'd have a much better track toy in the rs2000 FACT

dojj

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alas not

although, on a lighter note, i think the badge snobery is the same as spec snobbery, you will always get those who look down their noses at the base models in the line up and aspire to the ghia spec'd versions, right from the word dot

which is why i always buy the highest spec versions as my own transport and buy shiters for breaking

Minirotty

have you been yet?

Stu.H

Didnt a staff member of MSD Turbo one?

Sure I remember talking to him about it back in the day

Less.

Yes was grey MK5 one your right Stu

hitchwest

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no not yet mate spoke to the bloke yesterday and he is working away from home at the mo but defo going plus weather is not car viewing at the moment just waiting for the weather to improve made that mistake before viewing a car when its raining

Icurus

GGR did develop a low psi turbo kit for the RS2000 when it first came out, cost was around £2000ish! Fair to say that they didnt sell many!

Consisted of a new exhaust manifold, Turbo and chip for the ECU, I dont think it had an intercooler as it was only running around 5psi. I have an article on it somewhere.......

Paul_RS

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Having owned an RST/RS2000 and Cossie, I can honestly say the most fun one was the RS 2000. Standard - RS turbos handle crap and have crap brakes, RS 2000 standard is quite the opposite, fair enough its missing an LSD, but in all honesty you don't really need one.

Cause the 2000 could actually take most of the corners at speed

petey.

lol some hilarious egotistical and naive views in this thread.
its true what they say, 'passioncossie'.

to the OP - let us know what you think of it, might make a good daily. miss my mk6

cozzfather

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regards rs2000 turbos i owned the first, and the best and featured in loads of car magazine front covers bitd, it was done my the masters of going faster Brodie Brittain Racing who were legends with cosworths and all sorts of other cars,racing cars and even f1 cars and touring car cosworths, i bought it off dave brodie and yeah it was a good car. i still have the fast car magazine front cover feature and number plates off it for a memento,it was radient red like another car i'm aquainted with.

it was j69owl and i think its still out there somewhere.

jamieRST

HHHMMM if i spent a grand on a rs2k an a grand on rs turbo BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Well my RST only cost 950 with tax and mot and ok mods and i doubt u could buy a rs2k for that price that would piss mine but anyways....

ive never owned a rs2k or been in one but drove a few mk5 gtis,an they were pretty poor.
ive pondered the idea of getting a 4wd rs2k then turboing it, i dont see why u would put a 2.3l in one as i cant see there being much of a power difference,surely a rs turbo engine with 200bhp should see a better/more fun car?and shouldnt cost the earth.or a big power ZVH Turbo,focus RS block or YB.
ok the standard engine doesnt have cosworth stamped on it,but as its 2L DOHC 16V,if you turbod it,wouldnt it pretty much be a cosworth anyway?same displacement etc.

IMO you could make a 4x4 rstk turbo with the right engine you could get good power and save yourself loadsa money over the escos,ok it wouldnt be a real one,it would be an imitation but if you spent 6k doing it and DID IT RIGHT uve saved urself £6k+ and only a bit slower than a standard escos,spend a bit more and you could match it easily with a zvh,still cheaper than buying a escos,but youd have a 350-400bhp for your money.ok its not cosworthed design but the car would have all the same principles and be as quick for a lot less money.(if the running gear could take it)

so who are the mugs rs2k owners or escos owners that have forked out a fortune??who knows,each to there own

jamie
https://passionford.com/forum/restor...2-project.html

It's Czech Mate

Case closed then

jamieRST

that all you could come up with mondeo man? u own a mondeo,the most common ford around.just wondering if you have bumper disease to like 80% of the mondeos i see,with black tape covering holes in ur bumpers.
just cause ive never owned one or beein in one doesnt matter.ive not slagged the car of just said what i thought could be done with it

dojj

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the extra capacity and losing the bllancer shafts can see a good dose of power if propelry fueled and stuff
even with the 8V head, jim saw 170 brake on his 2.3 with some injectors, an ecu and an exhaust

so with the 16V head giving another 25 brake even as standard. it doesn't take a genious to figure out that you can get close to 200 n/a power out of it

Icurus

The extra power from the 2.3 is nice, but the large torque increase is even better

Now c'mon everybody......Group HUG

Minirotty

ya been yet?

hitchwest

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no i have nt want my arsekicking dont i the car isnt advertised for sale so i got a bit of time before i decide what im doing tempted to give it a miss and spend the 1000 notes on the saff instead with a couple of jobs that i want sorting on it

Ardern0

well mr smart arse i drive an escort cosworth in the summer and an Rs 2 4x4 in the winter so i guess that blows your half baked theory right out the window

i havnt got a bad word to say about either car , id take my rs 4x4 over any cossie except the escort . and it would be a tough choice between the 2 escorts believe me

street-boy

i have 1.. and now its a 2.3 Turbo car.. 370BHP... thats nice.. but gearbox/transfer box is not so good

GAZ W

there is only one proper Escort RS2000 ...see below

The rest are wannabe RS's ...proper dog turd

Minirotty

Couldnt agree with you more, the voice of truth, you are the orical

whach this vid, theyre shit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m9nJ2kFihc



















twat

GAZ W

Amen to that ....sense at last

Minirotty

Mark_

so by that statment would you say there is only 1 cosworth aswell?
the rest are wanabe's?
or is that different?


also you forget that the mk1 rs2000 came way before your 'real escort rs2000' lol

guess they were wanabe's too

Ebonycossie4x4

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Ive driven many rs2000s and its quite simple they are slow.

the 2wd ones feel slow enough the 4x4 ones are even worse, without turboing modification is difficult to get any sort of big power and then its rebuilt time...

i dont think they look too bad i like the ones in aubergine.

I thought they handled ok but I dont think they handle anywhere near any of the proper 4x4 cars.

they are a cheap car though now, however i cant really see any point in having it over a saff or possibly over an rs turbo other than creature comforts like power steering or A/C.

this is not passioncossie its passionford, that does not mean we all have to like all fords, especially the rs2000 which most people admit was not worthy to wear the RS badge.

sorry guys my opinion.

Mark_

your welcome to your oppinion and your reply was very well written,
much more polite than others who have bothered to reply

Ebonycossie4x4

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After reading the second page also i would like to add that i agree with some others that say they would rather have an rs2000 with a grand spent on the track than an RST on the track after a grand.

As a track car the rs2000 after a grand would be quicker (round the bends) with much better handling and much better brakes, yes it would be upto 40hp behind it but RSTs handle shit IMO, as soon as its even slightly damp they get to a bend and just go straight.

and the breaks are absoloubt shit, and obviosly get worse the more power you add.

But thats a track, I would much prefer to own the Rs Turbo.

GAZ W

no there are lots of good cosworths , but any escort rs2000 after the mk2 were cars not worthy of the RS badge..that bonnet bulge model was mildly ok but the rest ..ford should have just stuck to the gti badge

dean richardson

i would have 1 went in my mates and it was a good car . like other people have said dont listen to people slating them go and have a drive in it and make your own mind up bud best advice really

steelcabby

i find this site very disturbing. the language and attitude is unbelievable. this is no longer a friendly site where all fords can mix and people can give respectful opinions. seems to be one for the rich boys.

anyway mate. have you been yet???????? lol. hurry up.

i think you will like the 4x4. great cars. IMO the mk5 is better. i have owned 2 mk5 rs2000's and i honestly think they are the best all round escorts out there.

handling
comfort
everyday use

mine puts a big smile on me face everyday i drive it. i've had tons of RST's and other fords etc. and have never had the same feeling. sure the RST felt great in a straight line. and when tuned up. but i was always fixing the thing, it didn't stop very well and never went round corners. same with me ZVH's. they ain't very strong. and for all the money you would have to spend on building a strong ZVH. would be stupid money.

RS2000's are already a strong engine. abit flat. a chip and decat would sort that abit. but at least i can just leave it outside in all weathers. then go out every morning and turn the key knowing its ready for another journey

i'll be restoring mine this year and maybe converting it to run 4x4. i want it to be concourse. and TBH, i'm very pleased that so many hate it. cos they are getting wrecked and broken. which means its only a matter of time before these cars become rare and desirable. not forgetting value.....lol yayy!

let us all know what you thought chap. or if you bothered even?

Ebonycossie4x4

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I disagree with the fact that that will become more desirable, rare and valuable the rs2000 will be as diserable as the xr3i if that in my opinion.

you dont have to be rich to own a saff either or an escos for that matter which im afraid is the best all round escort out there.

I have tried to give a respectful opinion but when i put my foot down in a RST even though im nearly 27 and had cars a hell of a lot faster and more powerfull they make me smile.

Unfortunately an rs2000 just does not do that. As i said on a track i would imagine its different but ive never driven either on track.

Icurus

The Series 1 RS Turbo is only fractionally faster then the RS2000, except in top speed, and in no way leaves it for dead, not that you have in any way implied that

Not sure about the Series 2.

In regards to the mk5/6 RS2000's not being worthy of the badge, well at least this model won an FIA world championship, which is more then can be said for some other RS models.

It actually sold in quite large numbers, and was not considered a sale's failure by Ford. But the pretty bland styling and cross model resemblance did not help keep the RS unique

steelcabby

if your referring to the mk5 XR3I. Then i know what your saying. only real diffrence with the rs2000 and xr3i. is the engine, the 20bhp more. the interior and the bonnet. but the RS badge will always separate it from the XR3I. even if its basically the same car.

in respect to the rich comment. i was basically saying that this site has become a place for the rich ford owners that pump thousands into there cossies for track and concourse events. for people who spend thousands on there mk1 and 2. xr2's and more. and don't seem to give others a chance or the time with there slightly lower classed items. also i was referring to the negative attitude people seem to have on this site.

by saying it was the best alround escort, i mean't that in reliability, handling, comfort, power is good for a non-turbo'd car and price is just more than satisfiying

fast cars make me smile. unreliable. bad handling cars just piss me off and seem like money pits.

everyone wants a rare car. and these are fast becoming rare. especially the mk5's. and especially in my condition.

RWD_cossie_wil

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I have had RS turbo's , Rs2000's and Cosworths , 2wd , 4x4 and Escort.

I Currently own a 500Bhp saff and 440+ Escort Cossie.

Comparing an Rs2000 to any cossie is madness, totally different league. Cosworth is (and should be) streets ahead in every department.

BUT, for what it was designed for, ie a quick, fun good handling hot hatch, the Rs2000 is a fucking great car. Handling is spot on, very tight and precise for a FWD car, and a good spec with heated front screen, nice Recaro interior etc etc.... For the price of them now they are a great buy, and I would happily (and if anyone has one for sale at around 1k pm me!) buy one and run as a daily driver. I loved mine, and would quite happily have another.

Rs turbos are ok, I have driven lots of series 1&2 cars, and I had a very very tidy series one, as a car to use every day it was streets behind the Rs2000 in every way, great fun to drive and easily tunable, but the 1.6cvh is basically shit (IMHO), and they feel very very old now, and no RS turbo owner can say they are "nice" to drive...

Each car has it's merrits, personally for less than £2000 a clean tidy Rs2000 is a fantastic car. It is not the fastest thing in the world, just a good example of a simple fun 90's hot hatch.

Mark V8

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Wrong

The original and best




Mark

steelcabby

that is very nice indeed. if only my bank balance would rise alot more...lol