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Old 17-05-2009, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by escort4x4
The rs2000 4x4 is under rated, all you cosworth boys would have different views if it had a turbo strapped to it, due to the fact that it would give your car a run for its money, remove turbos from your cars and where would you lot be, it has a RS badge fitted to it so they are different from the rest of the standard ford breed, For all those that slate the rs2k can carry on, we use our cars daily without worrying of something going wrong, turbo failing etc we carry on all weather round. The 4x4 is a great handling car and isnt much slower then the 2wd version, as said before its not all about straight line speed, its all about going round the corners, and im sure that the rs2k 4x4 would beat a rwd saph round the bends at speed with out losing any traction
What a load of shite! the newer rs2k dont even deserve the RS badge its a SHIT car
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Originally Posted by xpack280capri
Guilty as charged! but at least its not pretending to be something it aint!!!!.....
So a escort cosworth is pretending to be something? were have these clowns popped up from?
Old 17-05-2009, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
What a load of shite! the newer rs2k dont even deserve the RS badge its a SHIT car

you are so clearly as much as a twat as Dojj

if you saw a MK1 Bubble arched rep looking mint but it was a 1.3 from the factory to start with Im sure you'd still wank over it, how much of a true RS enthusiast does that make you?

Your making statments imo just to antaganise fellow RS owners of any stage.

and to say a car does not deserve the RS badge is stupid to the highest degree.

Im off to lunch now, Im sure when I pop back later there will be more rants from the twat with as yellow mk2 in his sig and pritty sure Dojj will come back on and spout some more uneducated verbal diarrhoea over the key board.

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Old 17-05-2009, 12:28 PM
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What actually makes a shit car?

Poor performance?
Lack of reliability?
Styling?
Lack of tuning options?
FWD/RWD?

The RS2k has performance to match the ERST's and is better equipt'd
The RS2k is very reliable
Ok the rs2k does lack distinctive styling, but I think this was a sign of the times at its conception
The RS2k has Plenty of tuning options
I dont think which end the power goes too makes or breaks a car

Its the 2nd fastest escort that Ford produced, the Ecos being the quickest of course.

I really think people slate them because they look bland, which is a shame as they are over looking a cracking car.
Old 17-05-2009, 12:40 PM
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I had an RS2000 4x4 and thought it was a great car go for it if its a good price, also had 2 esc cos and a a rs500. depends what you want from a car. The ecs cos were unreliable money burners,the rs2k was nice to drive every day and you knew you could get from a to b with RA and C in the middle.

Retro AL i think your a bit narrow minded considering you have a sapp cos in your sig.
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so you lot are saying that the cossie fan switch fits the I4 lump?

without mods?

if this is true then fine, i will accept that i have been mistaken and i wil ltake a

but you same lot obviously didn't do that 13 years ago like i did, so fess up

i've had my lunch so i can sit here and wait for minirotty to coem back with some fabulous quip about how he's so great and we shoudl all bow down to him and his knowledge of doing stuff
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I once put an RS2000 engine into an XR4x4 and then turbocharged it - does that count?
Old 17-05-2009, 03:34 PM
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If I had owned my RS2k 13 years ago DOJJ then I would have heeded your advice

7001684 ish is the finnis code, well the 70016 bit is all I can rem ottomh

If you look closely i'm sure you can see it in this pic.......


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Originally Posted by dojj
so you lot are saying that the cossie fan switch fits the I4 lump?

without mods?

if this is true then fine, i will accept that i have been mistaken and i wil ltake a

but you same lot obviously didn't do that 13 years ago like i did, so fess up

i've had my lunch so i can sit here and wait for minirotty to coem back with some fabulous quip about how he's so great and we shoudl all bow down to him and his knowledge of doing stuff


If thats how you perceive me to be then so be it, I perceive you as a twat so I hope you extend to me the same courtesy and except it
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Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
So a escort cosworth is pretending to be something? were have these clowns popped up from?
So what parts on a standard mk5 Escort fits an escort cosworth?!?

i can only think of a couple of things, the escort badge on the boot (even the boot is different on the cosworth), the doors and mirrors belong to the escort, and the roof skin and part of the dash, the rest of the car is from the sierra, so i would say its more sierra than escort!

now where did i put my big shoes, red nose and squirty flower?
Old 17-05-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Munch


Can't believe you arse lickers, slagging off Cossie's & shit, remember the only reason you drive one an RS2000 (mk5/6) as you can't afford a fucking real RS like a cossie LOL
My dream car is an Escort Cosworth (the body shell is perfect in everyway) inside is a different story though! as they look cheap and nasty.
I went to buy an Escos, and after driving it im so glad that i didnt splash out and WASTE the 18k on it as it was over rated and handled like a P100 pickup (sierra based again if im not mistaken!) That sierra floor pan sure does get around!
So i stuck the money into building my (ESCORT) RS2000 4x4 into a 2.3Turbo as i felt my standard RS 2000 4x4 out performed the Escos in handling but was lacking the power that the cosworth has.
If ford had stuck a turbo on the RS2000 4x4 from factory im sure you cosworth boys would be singing a different tune! but i guess your like the turbo's your cars run.....
full of hot air!

Now i will stick my money where my mouth is and would gladly do a Grudge match which a certain mag does, and would race an escort cosworth round the track of the same Spec 300 - 350bhp and then let the results speak for themselves.
Old 17-05-2009, 06:22 PM
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Parts that fit

rear lights
Front lights
Dash
all the glass
parcel shelf
most of the bulbs
battery

not that many bits really


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Old 17-05-2009, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xpack280capri
Guilty as charged! but at least its not pretending to be something it aint!!!!.....
why whats pretending to be something it aint???????????????????
Old 17-05-2009, 08:14 PM
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only 3 cossies worth owning rs500/3 door rs200 and the escort cosworth
saphire will never be a special cosworth in my eyes as the whale tail is what makes the cosworth what it is today!!! and the rs200 because of the pure fact that it looks evil, goes like stink and is very rare!!!!
Old 17-05-2009, 08:16 PM
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The RS200 is not badged a Cosworth as far as I know? Use's a BDT that may have been developed by Cosworth?
Old 17-05-2009, 08:18 PM
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it may not be badged as a cosworth but its running a cosworth engine
so in my eyes its a cosworth
Old 17-05-2009, 09:05 PM
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So how about the 2.3 I4 engine that was developed by Cosworth, would that make any car running it a Cosworth or still a Cosworth if it where in a 3 Door RS?
Old 17-05-2009, 09:26 PM
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That i cant comment on due to the fact i dont know, im only going by what you can see in the engine bay. That the rs200 has a cosworth 1804cc engine fitted.
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Originally Posted by 3drpete
why whats pretending to be something it aint???????????????????
My opinion is the Escort Cosworth is more Sierra than Escort as it has the Sierra floor pan
so its not a true escort where the escort rs 2000 4x4 is.
Old 18-05-2009, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
What a load of shite! the newer rs2k dont even deserve the RS badge its a SHIT car
does shite stand for Stylish High performance Idealic Transport End..... of!

The newer RS2k most definatly deserves its RS badge! Just dont go applying for your girl guides badge as you need a fanny, not just act like one!

so Retro AnaL dont be an ass all your life!

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Old 18-05-2009, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Icurus
So how about the 2.3 I4 engine that was developed by Cosworth, would that make any car running it a Cosworth or still a Cosworth if it where in a 3 Door RS?
If that was the case every 2.0 16v vauxhall is also a cosworth so no a bit of design work on the cylinder head dosen't count.
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Originally Posted by Icurus
If I had owned my RS2k 13 years ago DOJJ then I would have heeded your advice

7001684 ish is the finnis code, well the 70016 bit is all I can rem ottomh

If you look closely i'm sure you can see it in this pic.......

can't see it in the pic mate, but i was refering to the I4 engine as found in the sierra which has the 100/110 fan switch (grey) which you can change with the diesel switch 100/105 (green) or the mondeo switch 95/100 (red)

the numbers may be a little off but it's been several years since i had one in front of me to check

although i'm not sure there is enough space to mount that set up on the rs2k as it looks like it's going to foul the inner wing if it's the same position as the sierra

in saying that, there was a switch for sale here which doesn't look to be the same
Old 18-05-2009, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by xpack280capri
does shite stand for Stylish High performance Idealic Transport End..... of!

The newer RS2k most definatly deserves its RS badge! Just dont go applying for your girl guides badge as you need a fanny, not just act like one!

so Retro AnaL dont be an ass all your life!
The car is shit thats IMO,i wouldnt drive one, its a spotty kids car,i stand by what i said,ford should never have brought that crap out, its nothing like the original mk2 rs2000
Again this is my opinion,everybody is differant and like differant cars if you like them thats all what matters
Old 18-05-2009, 08:41 AM
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i have had 2x4x4 and 2 x front wheel drive rs2k and i think they are great car s very good for the money ,at least you can get the power down in them unlike my s1 and the fiesta turbo i have now,and defo the most reliable .
some of us are not that lucky to own the big rs brand names ie cossy focus ...so to slate them or compare them to each other is just stupid .
Old 18-05-2009, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by escort4x4
it may not be badged as a cosworth but its running a cosworth engine
so in my eyes its a cosworth
You need to clear the shit from your eyes then.

The Rs200 engine is indeed a cosworth design, but it was developed elsewhere for the RS200

Ps. The Fiesta ST's engine has had plenty of imput from Cosworth...is that a Cosworth too then?
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the FWD version is the best variant of the Mk5 RS2000, cheap swift motoring, good base for a cheap track car.

Plenty of idiots on this thread.
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Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
The car is shit thats IMO,i wouldnt drive one, its a spotty kids car,i stand by what i said,ford should never have brought that crap out, its nothing like the original mk2 rs2000

It really annoys me when imbecile's (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/imbecile) slate the mk5/6 RS2000. Fact: In standard form the mk5/6 will out perform a standard mk2 on track! IMO RS2k deserves repect.

Im sure if you contact the following they will be more than happy to take YOUR VIEWS into consideration the next time they design a SHITE car. (http://www.ford.co.uk/Footer/ContactUs) Now excuse me as it appears i have to pop to the chemist.........any requests for clearasil or anulsol! I would think suppositories would be better as it clogs the hole that crap?? comes from!
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i can't be arsed to read negativity,this is my opinion of the one i had.....

very good when you throw it around down country roads and roundabouts,the only standard 1982 onwards escort barring the escort cosworth you can slide around with the arse end out with the power on. they have just enough power to be lively but a turbo would of made them feel better.
i wouldn't mind a ride in a 4x4 rs2 with a n/a 2.3 donkey to see what mine would of felt like.
Old 18-05-2009, 04:15 PM
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DOJJ, I was teasing you, as you cannot see it in that pic, just wanted to show my engine bay off, sorry

But its actually located at the gearbox end of the head and the one I have from a Cosworth is Orangey/brown, just like the one in that thread
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Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
The car is shit thats IMO,i wouldnt drive one, its a spotty kids car,i stand by what i said,ford should never have brought that crap out, its nothing like the original mk2 rs2000
Again this is my opinion,everybody is differant and like differant cars if you like them thats all what matters
spot the fuck up lol
its nothing like the original mk2 rs2000:cry : i thought the mk1 was out before the mk2
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AKA shrek
ps i own a mk5 rs2k im 40 years old so no spots on my boat race lol and i have also owned a rs turbo with 200 bhp and a saff cossie with 300 bhp so have one of these
Old 18-05-2009, 07:18 PM
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right well thanks for the interesting reading haha lol
going to view it anyway 1 night this week any 1 any idea weather it will be a mk5 or 6 cos the owner told the mrs that it was grey

decided if its tidy will have cos it seems pretty cheap and plus got to be better than my escort 1.6 zetec finnesse plus i only do about 4000 miles a year cos only use it to get to work a back
Old 18-05-2009, 07:39 PM
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mk6 mate as they dont do 4x4s on a mk5!

from a proud rs2k owner!could buy a cossie tomorrow but i dont want one!
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could be a mk5b as they did them in the 4x4, the mk5b is alot rarer then the mk6.
Buy it mate and enjoy it like any other rs, being a 4x4 its very rare so worth good money in the future if you clean it up a bit
Old 18-05-2009, 07:47 PM
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that 2.3 engine is found in the petrol transits too
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if you take it for a test drive make sure you drive it properly, the rs2k's dont really wake up until your above 3.5krpm. very nice above that though
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pretty much the same as the zetec they need a little push to wake them up
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Originally Posted by Icurus
What actually makes a shit car?

Poor performance?
Lack of reliability?
Styling?
Lack of tuning options?
FWD/RWD?

The RS2k has performance to match the ERST's and is better equipped (Nearly 10 years of engineering advance and it had 18 more hp, 200+ more kg and looked zzzzz)

The RS2k is very reliable
Ok the rs2k does lack distinctive styling, but I think this was a sign of the times at its conception
The RS2k has Plenty of tuning options
I dont think which end the power goes too makes or breaks a car

Its the 2nd fastest escort that Ford produced, the Ecos being the quickest of course. Such a wide comparison there, if Ford had the technology to produce EFI, 4x4 Escorts economically before the RS2K there'd be no argument here.

I really think people slate them because they look bland, which is a shame as they are over looking a cracking car.
When has the RS scene as a whole ever been judged on standard merit...RST's will always piss the RS2000's pound for pound unless BIG money is spent on 2.3 turbo's etc.. I know where a grand of my tuning £££ would go, not on fixing transfer boxes there's a clue.

In their own right they're pretty good cars, but as part of the brand they're crap...IMO.
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Originally Posted by Icurus
DOJJ, I was teasing you, as you cannot see it in that pic, just wanted to show my engine bay off, sorry

But its actually located at the gearbox end of the head and the one I have from a Cosworth is Orangey/brown, just like the one in that thread
some light hearted jappery then

if there was a thread pitch etc you could list then i could compare hem to the seirra fitment, i found a pic of one from eyars ago

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Originally Posted by Ad4m RST
When has the RS scene as a whole ever been judged on standard merit...RST's will always piss the RS2000's pound for pound unless BIG money is spent on 2.3 turbo's etc.. I know where a grand of my tuning £££ would go, not on fixing transfer boxes there's a clue.

In their own right they're pretty good cars, but as part of the brand they're crap...IMO.

no mate all it comes down to is!

if you dont own a m5 or cossie or rs turbo, anything else is shit on here!
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Originally Posted by dojj
some light hearted jappery then

if there was a thread pitch etc you could list then i could compare hem to the seirra fitment, i found a pic of one from eyars ago


i thought that bit in your sig about being dyslexic was a joke! obviously not!


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