wot's the best way to make a 24v cosworth faster
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wot's the best way to make a 24v cosworth faster
hi i'v got a ford p100 powered by a 24v cosworth lump. but would like to make it faster without spending s*it loads of money. wot do you think would be the best way to do this??????
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i would reccomend you dont spend money on tuning it actually. you get very little gains for a lot of investment.
the for thst of getting 10bhp out of it you could replace it with a YB and gain 100
ive been there, done that, learnt my lesson
i'd go for: exhaust, filter, chip
then leave it. itll make a nice car to drive thats pretty quick and makes a nice noise
the for thst of getting 10bhp out of it you could replace it with a YB and gain 100
ive been there, done that, learnt my lesson
i'd go for: exhaust, filter, chip
then leave it. itll make a nice car to drive thats pretty quick and makes a nice noise
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hmmm there is other ways.
make a single turbo manifould get a cheap T4 replica from easter europe ad some poxal injectors add more pressure on the rail. make sure the boost pressure is no hirgher than 8psi.
300 bhp and 300 torque.
look it will have loads of over fueling before boost and getting very lean on boost.
I have driven a home made one and it was great fun.
would not use it every day though lol
make a single turbo manifould get a cheap T4 replica from easter europe ad some poxal injectors add more pressure on the rail. make sure the boost pressure is no hirgher than 8psi.
300 bhp and 300 torque.
look it will have loads of over fueling before boost and getting very lean on boost.
I have driven a home made one and it was great fun.
would not use it every day though lol
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i would reccomend you dont spend money on tuning it actually. you get very little gains for a lot of investment.
the for thst of getting 10bhp out of it you could replace it with a YB and gain 100
ive been there, done that, learnt my lesson
i'd go for: exhaust, filter, chip
then leave it. itll make a nice car to drive thats pretty quick and makes a nice noise
the for thst of getting 10bhp out of it you could replace it with a YB and gain 100
ive been there, done that, learnt my lesson
i'd go for: exhaust, filter, chip
then leave it. itll make a nice car to drive thats pretty quick and makes a nice noise
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do you have to change the plug's or anythink or are they just a straight swop???
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Yes mate V6 ones, theres a step by step guide on the website in my sig, you may need to join to view the right section thou... its pretty straight forward
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i would advise against globally changing the fueling of the car by changing the fuel system.
infact it's just a bad idea full stop and i have no idea why people are advising it.
the standard fuel system can cope with the requirements of the engine even in modified form. a remap (ie chip as you wont need anything custom/live on a standardish engine) will release the potental you already have
infact it's just a bad idea full stop and i have no idea why people are advising it.
the standard fuel system can cope with the requirements of the engine even in modified form. a remap (ie chip as you wont need anything custom/live on a standardish engine) will release the potental you already have
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jim, a 24v is a throw away engine, mostly used for cheap track cars and missing about.
they don't a poo if its fueled correctly all I know they produce more power with more fuel globaly, yes it does not make it drive better, but we are not driving Mis daisy.
they don't a poo if its fueled correctly all I know they produce more power with more fuel globaly, yes it does not make it drive better, but we are not driving Mis daisy.
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johnny, explain to me then how and why and i will concede.
i am confident your advise is bad, so please explain it to this guy why youre telling him to do it
i am confident your advise is bad, so please explain it to this guy why youre telling him to do it
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I cannot tell you why, I have seen a power run with poxal injectors and a power run with out.
the poxal injectors produced 11 bhp more. edit I must admit it was cooler later on that afternoon.
secondly my car when we had a rolling road session my car made 8 bhp more than the others and I had a uprated fuel reg.
I would like to just add to this, yes a remap will produce more power and drive better, but second hand poxal injectors work out much cheaper.
the poxal injectors produced 11 bhp more. edit I must admit it was cooler later on that afternoon.
secondly my car when we had a rolling road session my car made 8 bhp more than the others and I had a uprated fuel reg.
I would like to just add to this, yes a remap will produce more power and drive better, but second hand poxal injectors work out much cheaper.
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the management wont give you power tho. my 24v made 205 on emerald and 205 on an MSD chip
the only reason to move to aftermarket management is when you have modded the engine in such a way the standard managemtn cannot cope.
the only reason to move to aftermarket management is when you have modded the engine in such a way the standard managemtn cannot cope.
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I know of at least 4 cars with 24v BOA that have had vectra injectors and BOB cams fitted, all are serviced reguarly and all are running fine to this day. Neither will harm your engine if its in good shape to start with. Both are popular mods on this engine...
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Simple enough m8 JohnnyB/2saffs, go talk to the 24V'ers on Poweredbyford or Fordpower then you wont get others telling you others are talking rubbish.
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taps, hold on so as long as people give out bad advise that isnt corrected its safe to go with?
if i went to www.crazymtherfuckers.com and asked if it's ok to shoot people and they said ok then that means i should?
if i went to www.crazymtherfuckers.com and asked if it's ok to shoot people and they said ok then that means i should?
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taps, hold on so as long as people give out bad advise that isnt corrected its safe to go with?
if i went to www.crazymtherfuckers.com and asked if it's ok to shoot people and they said ok then that means i should?
if i went to www.crazymtherfuckers.com and asked if it's ok to shoot people and they said ok then that means i should?
If you want advise on 24V's you go to the 24V people, who have been there, done it, made mistakes, learnt by them, over come them and will give you the FACTS on what will and what wont make them better then standard, same as anyone with a YB would come here for the exact same reasons.
What his asked for is advise not to get into a my cocks bigger then your cock back and forth conversation.
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ok then my cocks smaller than your cock
but changing the injectors for different sized ones and/or modifying the fuel pressure without making any other alterations to the engine is a bad idea. FACT.
find me one person who genuinely understands the subject matter 100% who says otherwise and i'll eat my own turd...
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but changing the injectors for different sized ones and/or modifying the fuel pressure without making any other alterations to the engine is a bad idea. FACT.
find me one person who genuinely understands the subject matter 100% who says otherwise and i'll eat my own turd...
happy?
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ok then my cocks smaller than your cock
but changing the injectors for different sized ones and/or modifying the fuel pressure without making any other alterations to the engine is a bad idea. FACT.
find me one person who genuinely understands the subject matter 100% who says otherwise and i'll eat my own turd...
happy?
but changing the injectors for different sized ones and/or modifying the fuel pressure without making any other alterations to the engine is a bad idea. FACT.
find me one person who genuinely understands the subject matter 100% who says otherwise and i'll eat my own turd...
happy?
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i'm with jim on this one, he knows his stuff when it comes to this sort of thing and has been there and done it and learnt from it it's not rocket science to know that a remap is a far better solution to add fuel only where needed rather than everywhere
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ok then my cocks smaller than your cock
but changing the injectors for different sized ones and/or modifying the fuel pressure without making any other alterations to the engine is a bad idea. FACT.
find me one person who genuinely understands the subject matter 100% who says otherwise and i'll eat my own turd...
happy?
but changing the injectors for different sized ones and/or modifying the fuel pressure without making any other alterations to the engine is a bad idea. FACT.
find me one person who genuinely understands the subject matter 100% who says otherwise and i'll eat my own turd...
happy?
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Ok, a remap would be a good thing to do, but did this guy not ask for cheap easy mods to gain some power, so up the fuelling a little with injectors that can be fitted himself, total cost about 40 quid, or a remap at ....... well im not actually sure lol but i bet its more than 40 quid!
Like I said ive seen a few of them done and they run just fine
Like I said ive seen a few of them done and they run just fine
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ok thanks for all the advice ppl. i'm going on a rolling road over the weekend to see wot the truck's runnning at. then i'll be fitting a set of injectors which i'v already brought. and cams when i find a set. and be putting it back on rolling road to see wot improvment it's made. does any1 know where i can find a set of bob cams?? looked on ebay but no luck.
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ok thanks for all the advice ppl. i'm going on a rolling road over the weekend to see wot the truck's runnning at. then i'll be fitting a set of injectors which i'v already brought. and cams when i find a set. and be putting it back on rolling road to see wot improvment it's made. does any1 know where i can find a set of bob cams?? looked on ebay but no luck.
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taps, please explain in technical detail what it is about then. i know a fair ammount about injectors and i'm pretty sure you just made that up
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I'm with Jim on this one, it sounds like a stupid idea. You lot have already said it will over fuel so it can't work properly.
Just because you all say it does doesn't mean that it's right. No one has actually given proof to show why/how it works.
Surely an extra injector controlled by a pressure switch would solve that?
Anyway, fuck this, i'm off to fit a set off greys to my 1.1 Saxo
Just because you all say it does doesn't mean that it's right. No one has actually given proof to show why/how it works.
Surely an extra injector controlled by a pressure switch would solve that?
Anyway, fuck this, i'm off to fit a set off greys to my 1.1 Saxo