tsutton

From BBC News - There will be a £2,000 discount from next month on cars bought where the owner scraps another car more than 10 years old. (until March 2010)

Thoughts?

tsutton

50% tax rate for people who earns more than £150k in 2010/2011

OUCH!!!

BM08

Posted about this last week

tsutton

Beer up 2p by midnight
Cigs up 2p by 6pm today

Off to the pub before the price rise. :P

dojj

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another predicatable budget them, with the government justifying all the bills by saying they are skint

i wish i could go to my boss and say "seeing as i need to buy a flash motor and a flash house, i'll need to get paid lots and lots more so you'll have to stump u the cash"

Ebonycossie4x4

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dont we all doj.

tsutton

ISA savings increased to £10,200 - which is a big jump from £3,600 !

Chip

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They say the car 2K cashback is for environmental reasons, and yet I cant get the 2K if I scrap one of my cars and buy a pushbike.

Strange....

Matt Evans

Thats a positive step. Is that with immediate effect?

alistairolsen

the environmental reasons is the whole "lets convince stupid people were doing ti for the right reasons by quoting fuel consumption and carbon emmissions while quietly ignoring the cost of scrapping and making cars."

Its just a ruse to try and prevent the car manufacturers failing as everyone has a finger in each others pies.

Good old labour! My dad once said to me "when you get the the bottom of a hole, stop digging and think"

5t1g

Link

James

it really makes my blood boil that that smug twat Mr Brown sat through Mr Camerons speech shaking his head and laughing! Does this bloke have no idea at all the state of this country?!!!!!!

dojj

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he earns shitloads and has a cast iron garantee'd pension worth lots as well

why should he give a shit about the guy who has to live of £20 a week dole money when he can worry about how many houses he can buy?

eerily like tony b liar, setting himself up before the fall, he's a bit like the naughty schoolboy who's taken charge of the school while the headmaster is away with a forged letter who thinks, just because he's got the position, he's earnt the right to tell us what to do

if there isn't a way to change the law so that this can't happen again, there bloody well should be, if an elected official leaves they always have an ellection to see who peole want to replace them

anyway, what did dr eyebrows have to say about other stuff then?

The Youth.

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I think I will scrap my esc cos get the 2k trade in and buy a big gas guzzling 4x4...

steve

Ed1

some bed time reading for you all

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not sure if it works tho!

It's Czech Mate

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Although It says ISA, I dont think it's referring to Cash ISA's tho.

So I dont think you'll be able to pay £10k a year into a cash ISA

Ford RS Enthusiast

its a fucking joke, its the car factorys that produce the most polution and to many trees being cut down and burnt that filter the air

i can see it now the public saying its a good idea its going to save the environment ffs do some research

cpaul4

5100 in cash isa's up from 3600, the total up to 10k is in other investments.

Chris

Garage19

Double the allowance + half the interest = fuck all real benefit.

alistairolsen

I swore Id never buy a new car due to depreciation

I swore Id never take a loan for a car due to the interest.

Ive been offered an extension on my mortgage, car manufacturers are selling cars for fuck all and the goverment is offering 2k on a trade in....

Makes sense tbh :P

Char1ie

iTrader: (6)

I'm sure it takes more energy to create a new car than it does to keep an old one running. Ford USA had this scheme a while ago and it was massively criticised.

I have a major problem with electric cars too. We burn coal to make electricity then transport the electricity to a house where it is transferred to your car battery. Surely it is more efficient to just run a petrol car? Or get a fucking bike! An electric car is a shit car. It'll run out away from your house and people will park outside your house so you can't reach your charging station etc etc.

Charlie

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Agreed, keeping an older car running is more environemntally friending than keep making new ones every few years!

Toe Knee

iTrader: (2)

Didnt it work out to a new car having to do something like 100k miles before it becomes more enviromentally friendly to run than an older one?!

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Transporting electricity to a house is no less efficient than transporting petrol to a petrol station I would wager.


The key thing is though, not to use coal in the first place, use a green energy source, or better still nuclear and just manage the waste properly.

Chip

iTrader: (3)

The exact numbers involved depend on the car, I suspect with modern cars that 100K is in fact a far higher number!

foreigneRS

exactly. why can't i use it to get cashback against a motorbike? total bullshit in terms of environment, but will hopeful kick start car sales again for the sake of all those employed in the industry in this country which may have a knock on effect in other areas of the economy if those people see a secure future

exactly again. little point in saving when the rates are shite

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

ASS!!! I'd leave this country as the income tax is horrific...

however I just love paying for mansions and schooling and healthcare and plasma Tvs for jobless immigrants with 9 kids...

It makes me feel all warm inside

I also love paying for politicians to have 2 houses and their husbands porn...

foreigneRS

on the scrappage thing though, i have a more than 10 year old car that is worth basically nothing to sell - is that likely to change if it could be bought and used for trade in?

Char1ie

iTrader: (6)

Agreed. Nuclear power is fantastic.

And fair point about transporting the petrol.

Charlie

alistairolsen

yes it does, old cars are more friendly in terms of lifetime cost from this moment. Unfortunately the governement are trying to sell cars, not save the environment.

Burning coal is far from ideal, but MUCH more efficient than burning petrol in a car.

Transporting electricity involves less losses than putting petrol in trucks

electric cars are fine, but current technology only allows them to be second cars or shopping cars for city running, not much good for a 400 mile trip when they need charged in the middle.

IMO it will onyl work when they standardise the batteries and make them easy to change so you pull into motorway services and just change battery as opposed to charging :P

It's Czech Mate

The only way to make your savings work for you at the moment IMO is to offset your mortgage against them so you pay less interest on your mortgage......

Chip

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Depends on your mortage deal, I get more interest on my savings than I pay on my mortgage.

If was allowed to I would borrow 10 million tomorrow at the rate im paying

lead_foot

iTrader: (1)

Good way to make people in well paid jobs fuck off to another country.

ben_frst

the best idea to date as soon as ive got enough spondoolys to set myself up abroad im off

i suggest everyone does the same theres no Great Britain any more let just leave it for the dogs

Chip

iTrader: (3)

You never will have if the government get their way with taxing you into poverty

Rich_bloor

is a prius 10 years old yet ???

i'd love to chop one in and get 2 grand off the new 5.0L V8 Range Rover or Jaguar !!!

foreigneRS

transporting electricity will be reduced in the future when fuel cells are used in the home to generate it at the point of use

alistairolsen

whoopy do, then we have to transport it as liquid hydrogen which is back to tanker again, what a fucking brilliant idea

Fil

is there any rules set out yet for the car scrapage 2k off a new one?

as my 1100 mk3 fiesta, is / was worth about £100 could you scrap it and get 2k of a 100k + ferrari?

or is it like for like.



Tho im after a diesel pickup truck, may go brand new if i can get a good deal and 2k from the government!

foreigneRS

not at all. there are fuel cells that can take fuels other than pure hydrogen with a distribution network already in place