cossie*mad!

I've got the chance to buy a 455bhp engine...
accralite pistons
h section rods
coopers ring head gasket
t4 turbo
greys
swedish plenum
200 block
etc etc

how much would this cost to build to this spec?....

Chip

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5-10K, depending on who built it and all the things you havent mentioned.

pete mcrash

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(not sounding like a cock).....really dont think u'd get a real 450 out of greys.....so it might not have the power anyway, and what work has it had done on the head

RWD_cossie_wil

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sounds like a mishmash of a spec to be honest, greys, T4 and a sweeeeeeedish plenum?

cossie*mad!

The actual spec is:
200 long studded block
low comp 7.5:1 accralite pistons
lightened and balanced crank and flywheel
steel conrods
high pressure oil pump
cooper ring head gasket
ported and polished head
double valve springs
bd14 exhaust cam
bd16 inlet cam
swedish inlet plenum
modified throttle body
1000cc injectors
level 8 ecu with pectal baby board
group a induction kit
vernier pulleys
t4 turbo-360 degree thrust bearing with cut back blades
38mm external wastegate with screamer pipe
rs500 intercooler
double capacity radiator
group a fuel pump
modified fuel lines

magazine featured engine proven 455bhp plus gear box

how much would this cost to build?
cheers

Rs1

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8-9k for a fresh one i reckon, budget 10k just to be sure and if you dont spend it all you can by yourself a 50p mixup as a reward.

JonnyBravo

How much power did CossieRich's Saph make on that GT30, was around 450hp wasn't it ?

KSA-Cossie

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Rich's is an ideal spec to use.

JonnyBravo

Nigh on standard iirc ? Grp A gasket, 4x4 inlet, GT3071, I swear it was around those figures.

The key is reliability but I am sure Mark wouldn't push stock parts beyond ( what he considers) their limits.

KSA-Cossie

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You're spot on m8,ported head too.

cossie*mad!

Would you pay Ł3500 for it?

dave cos4x4

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Ł3500, yes.

greys max out at about 430-450,be using them on their limit.

KSA-Cossie

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Better off with siemens blacks.

andrewg

blacks not same cc as greys?

LHD220Turbo

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blacks come in 55's, 72's, and 83,s and are al the same price

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/

LHD220Turbo

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if the engine is good, then that is a very good price IMO - go for it

buffyturbo

hi ya my saffy cost Ł8,500 to build me engine
runing 460 bhp Bench sounds did it
well worth every penny
buff x

pete mcrash

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......cos fookin' divies call them "blacks" other people get confussed.......55's......72's.....83's........:cr y:

Oppliger Motorsport

3500Ł is good,new engine building with that spec is about 8000Ł

fezzajsy

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good price that

scoooby slayer

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isnt cosseriches head standard port ? i thought it was ?

Mark Shead

Yes his head is stock.

Mark

RS1984

Kitchen Devil's Saff is on greys and T38 and was dyno'd at 450BHP!!! why do people think you can'nt make 450 on greys!!??

J1mbo

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greys will do a tad over 450 on their limit

RS1984

Exactly mate!!! Glad someone is talking sence!!!

J1mbo

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lol, ive seen 455 on the dyno on greys, t38 turbo

so can deffo be done

Jay,

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at what afr's tho jim ? bet that was ringing the life out of the injectors

RS1984

I think its a good setup personally...38 is a tad laggy though.

J1mbo

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yes as said mate, on the limit ! a/f was obviously still safe but i cant remember tbh

38 is a cracking turbo, been out in a car tonight with one on and its deffinately something id be having on my saff in a few years

RS1984

yeah I agree...38 is an awsome turbo as are grey injectors, just makes me laugh when people say they are not good for 450!! On the limit or not they make it!! My mates saff doesnt miss a beat!!

Russ_Cossy

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Nigh on standard iirc ? Grp A gasket, 4x4 inlet, GT3071, I swear it was around those figures.

does a 4x4 saph inlet flow better than a 2wd just out of interest? i know everyone reccomends the small turbo escos inlets?

J1mbo

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4x4 is better than the 2wd yes

R5FORD

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Mine cost me over 10k but thats built to handle more than 450bhp.

RS1984

10K is some serious wonker to spend on an engine!! Having said that I would'nt think twice on spending it on mine if I had it!!! Good work!!!!

scoooby slayer

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i should hope so for 10k id want nigh on 600 hp ready. my car was only 8k with fresh built 470 hp lump.

let someone else take the loss and buy one done, the only way imo. just loose a fortune otherwise.

J1mbo

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600hp for 10k imoisnt going to happen ! , especially if your having it built for you !!

you can do things on the cheap, but in the end its going to end up costing more when things break !

500hp can be done cheapish, but when your knocking at 600 things change, drastically !

Gazzonator

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When my saph was dynoed at 450, the AFR was 11.5 at 28psi on grey injectors.

RS1984

^^^^^
and is an animal!!!

scoooby slayer

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i understand that mate, my point is its not worth it. euans car was only 10k and that must of been nigh on 600 bhp on an engine dyno.
that was an awesome car, if it hadnt been rotten id of bought it.

J1mbo

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cheap car that mate

why didnt you buy it, put the good bits in yours and sell yours for the same price again