turbo wont boost?
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turbo wont boost?
chip came around tonight to take the car out for mapping, he got it up and running which was a task as new injectors were way out lol. The problem we had was when it came to adding boost the turbo didnt want to do anything, it wouldnt come on boost, boost gauge wouldn't gp upto zero. im guessing something in the turbo is fooked as cant hear it try and spin up? the shaft looked very good condition when fitted too
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Probably something Chip has checked but the internal wastegate is sealing properly isn't it?
i.e - the actuator is preloaded and pulling the penny valve shut?
i.e - the actuator is preloaded and pulling the penny valve shut?
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actautor is preloaded, actuator is at a slight angle so may check that after the weekend so i dont change anything so i keep the map safe lol
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does it shut up when you dip the clutch ? ( the bearing that is,,,,, not chip)
you should know i never sell stuff,,, never know if i may need it
as said its here anyway ontop of me wardrobe and its got a almost new -34 and i know it works fine aswell
you should know i never sell stuff,,, never know if i may need it
as said its here anyway ontop of me wardrobe and its got a almost new -34 and i know it works fine aswell
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if when you dip the clutch it shuts up then it aint the release but the layshaft bearing in most cases as when you dip the clutch the box stops spining..... whem released again it does and so you get the whine
BUT your box is also straight cut remember so that might also be a reason too
BUT your box is also straight cut remember so that might also be a reason too
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By the time we knew it wasnt boosting at all, we were miles away from home (took me quite a while to get it running as there were a couple of things that needed fixing first) as I did all the low end mapping first of all so that we could get out to some bigger roads to open her up, as it was starting from scratch with the map, so when we did try and open it up and no boost appeared, I wasnt in a position to look into why , and I didnt have time to look when we got back, so for now I just mapped it N/A for Paul so that he can drive it to central day ok as he is determined to take it there (against my advice, lol)
I have told him NOT to try and fix the boost before then, as the map has NO boost mapping done, so please can everyone save the advice till next week in case he gets tempted to try and run some boost when its NOT mapped for it!
Drives fucking mint as it is though, and I bet at 8:1 or whatever it is, it would literally last forever as N/A
Dead at the top end of course, but goes quite well in the midrange, I bet he could beat an XR3i in a race without him needing to go over 4500rpm, lol
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sorry to sould thick but what is afm?
dont worry chip i wont be driving it stupid or racing anything as i really want the engine to last, just stroll at 70 or so which is no prob if it does 110 off boost @ around 4k lol, thanks again
dont worry chip i wont be driving it stupid or racing anything as i really want the engine to last, just stroll at 70 or so which is no prob if it does 110 off boost @ around 4k lol, thanks again
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AFM = Air Flow Meter - lets the ECU work out how much air's entering the inlet.
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No AFM on Paul's setup, as the emerald setup he has is based around a RPM vs TPS setup with MAP as a modifier.
Im of the opinion its a mechanical fault not anything ECU related, as the turbo isnt even making actuator pressure levels of boost.
So like Will said, a jammed wastegate, or something along those lines, may be the cause.
Im of the opinion its a mechanical fault not anything ECU related, as the turbo isnt even making actuator pressure levels of boost.
So like Will said, a jammed wastegate, or something along those lines, may be the cause.
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well i shall get the weekend out the way then start looking at the problem (dont worry chip i wont drive it lol) fingers crossed its something silly and wont hurt my wallet more lol
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i soooo wanted to take chips offer on mapping tonight, but for once i turned it down in order to overhaul box 1st, make better brake set up as are crap atm and pulls to rught when breaking hard which means caliper buggered?
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i personally wouldnt use the car at all till you find out why you have no boost,if you couldnt find out why you had no boost with in half an hour(ie is turbo spinning,air leak etc),then you have some issues,these zetec conversions arent rocket science,try getting someone who knows what there doing to look at it,
ps got loads of area6 zetec turbo parts if anyone needs anything,manifolds,gearbox,intercooler etc
ps got loads of area6 zetec turbo parts if anyone needs anything,manifolds,gearbox,intercooler etc
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it was more of a case i hadnt looked at it yet, was no boost leaks and we then realised what it was but had run out of time for mapping and i wasnt planning on touching a hot turbo tbh (then to top it off bonnet cvable snapped so couldnt pop bonnet that day night lol
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i personally wouldnt use the car at all till you find out why you have no boost,if you couldnt find out why you had no boost with in half an hour(ie is turbo spinning,air leak etc),then you have some issues,these zetec conversions arent rocket science,try getting someone who knows what there doing to look at it,
ps got loads of area6 zetec turbo parts if anyone needs anything,manifolds,gearbox,intercooler etc
ps got loads of area6 zetec turbo parts if anyone needs anything,manifolds,gearbox,intercooler etc
Paul, fair play on sorting everything else out properly first then mapping it with boost, the old you would have done it the other way around, lol
Let me know when you want it mapping and we'll sort something out.
PROPERLY run in now at least, so its ready for some decent boost im sure
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Is it sad that im actually genuinely looking forward to mapping it?
Its only a pony little spec motor really, and is on management I dont even like much, but its just been SO long coming now (cause of all the drama with it having to be broken and rebuilt to fund Jim's M3 payback) that I really am really intrigued as to what it will finally go like!
On the old manifold etc, on the part boost map we did, it did drive well, so I reckon there could be a fair bit of potential in it once fully mapped this time
Not long now im sure!
Its only a pony little spec motor really, and is on management I dont even like much, but its just been SO long coming now (cause of all the drama with it having to be broken and rebuilt to fund Jim's M3 payback) that I really am really intrigued as to what it will finally go like!
On the old manifold etc, on the part boost map we did, it did drive well, so I reckon there could be a fair bit of potential in it once fully mapped this time
Not long now im sure!
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