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Old 14-04-2009, 06:09 PM
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this started out as an intemitent problem, but now as soon as it starts to come on boost, it cuts the boost and back fires, anyone any suggestions?
Old 14-04-2009, 06:13 PM
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mine was doing exactly this after i went through a large puddle perhaps something has gotten wet?
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Originally Posted by lozi
mine was doing exactly this after i went through a large puddle perhaps something has gotten wet?
that could make sense, I had my car broken into and whilst trying to steal bits out of the engine bay the contents of the water system was emptied everywere,

did you manage to track down with item was causing it?
Old 14-04-2009, 06:21 PM
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sure i read it on here recently dude to check how tight the fuel rail is as it works loose and as the injectors squirt more on boost it moves it, allowing air in and it obv won't combust properly.

If its not that I haven't a clue other than its a shitty old cossie
Old 14-04-2009, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
that could make sense, I had my car broken into and whilst trying to steal bits out of the engine bay the contents of the water system was emptied everywere,

did you manage to track down with item was causing it?

i never founf out exactly what got wet as after a couple days it dryed out and cleared up, but when i say a large puddle it was more like a lake the water came up over the bonnet lol woops
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
this started out as an intemitent problem, but now as soon as it starts to come on boost, it cuts the boost and back fires, anyone any suggestions?
Crank sensor or sensor gap.
Old 14-04-2009, 06:34 PM
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Could be overboosting down to the actuator
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Originally Posted by Rs1
Crank sensor or sensor gap.
my crank sensor ballsed up after it had rained heavy.
Old 14-04-2009, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs1
Crank sensor or sensor gap.

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Old 14-04-2009, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs1
Crank sensor or sensor gap.
all looks in good condition, what do you mean by gap?
Old 14-04-2009, 08:07 PM
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Check fuel pressure as well

cheeRS stu
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is it boosting right? as said above, mine did this when it overboosted?
Old 14-04-2009, 08:17 PM
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i reacon you have fuel surge how old is the fuel pump? whats the fuel filter like? have you jacked the car up and crushed a fuel line?
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
this started out as an intemitent problem, but now as soon as it starts to come on boost, it cuts the boost and back fires, anyone any suggestions?

Does your tacho needle jump all over the place when it mis-fires? If so it's your phase sensor.
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Originally Posted by MAD Ade
Does your tacho needle jump all over the place when it mis-fires? If so it's your phase sensor.
havnt noticed what it does at the time of the back fire, but it does idle a little higher for a while after
Old 14-04-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
havnt noticed what it does at the time of the back fire, but it does idle a little higher for a while after

What coil set up are you running?
Old 14-04-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MAD Ade
What coil set up are you running?

Group A
Old 14-04-2009, 08:29 PM
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fuel pressure reg?
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sounds like crank sensor
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the gfs car was running like shit and doing similar, xr3i so not turbo but still, put ur foot down and intermittently backfired, ran like shit and jolted like a bitch!!! Changed the fuel filter and jobs a goodun!!! she ran it dry a while back so think a bit of shit might have clogged the filter or something.

Only other poss is the inlet plenum gaskets do go as my old cossie one went and had a similar intermittent fault!! althou it did it off boost aswell as on!
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
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Hmmm, that rules out the coil lead to the dizzy. How old is the wiring loom to the engine (cps, iscv, tps, injectors etc. etc. etc.)
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Originally Posted by MAD Ade
Hmmm, that rules out the coil lead to the dizzy. How old is the wiring loom to the engine (cps, iscv, tps, injectors etc. etc. etc.)
Engine loom I believe is still the original, but looks in good condition, CPS is 6 months old, Iscv is about 2 years old, tps unsure exactly, about 5 years, injectors 3 years, fuel filter 2 years ago.

I have never changed the phase sensor, so for the sake of 20 quid, i will give that a whirl
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Sounds like MAP-SENSOR to me
Been there, done that tho
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
Engine loom I believe is still the original, but looks in good condition, CPS is 6 months old, Iscv is about 2 years old, tps unsure exactly, about 5 years, injectors 3 years, fuel filter 2 years ago.

I have never changed the phase sensor, so for the sake of 20 quid, i will give that a whirl

I had a problem with the phase sensor a few years back, was popping and farting, the tacho needle was jumping around like mad, check this mate. If it's not this I would get your tuner to check it out.
The engine loom can look like new but they do break down due to vibration. The stranding of the cable in the loom is not that fine so the strands can fracture over a long period of time.

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I can't believe nobody has said plugs! If they're 071s, check the little lead gaps, they rattle loose, if not, then check the gaps
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Originally Posted by cossiemanden
Sounds like MAP-SENSOR to me
Been there, done that tho
not long had a new one, is there anyway of checking them?
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They can be one day old, if you buy un-original ones and hit some water they will break down.(original ones, are more precise and more resistant against water)
There is a reason they are out where they are, and upside down.
Real time checking does recuire a laptop, but the upper symptoms sounds like it.
Also check plugs, could also be them
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