General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Off topic help required - petrochemical industry specialists

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-12-2004, 03:51 PM
  #1  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Off topic help required - petrochemical industry specialists

Has anyone got any contacts in this field, as I am trying to source some LF60 steel plate, for a job we are pricing for. I can't find anyone anywhere that can help - I've tried google etc and all the usual steel companies in this country, but to no avail.

Anyone in this industry (like the offshore bods, perhaps engineering peeps contacts?) know where I can find some pretty please!?
Old 01-12-2004, 04:32 PM
  #2  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Someone must know someone who knows someone who knows where I can get some from .
Old 01-12-2004, 04:41 PM
  #3  
M7 COS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
M7 COS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Essex
Posts: 5,840
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Have you tried BSI, they might be able to help you. They have an oil and petro chemical department.
Old 01-12-2004, 04:42 PM
  #4  
M7 COS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
M7 COS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Essex
Posts: 5,840
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

http://www.bsi-global.com/Inspectora...s/index.xalter
Old 01-12-2004, 04:46 PM
  #5  
M7 COS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
M7 COS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Essex
Posts: 5,840
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

They probably won't be able to help you directly, but may know someone who can.

Hope this helps.
Old 01-12-2004, 04:48 PM
  #6  
Phil
Jeebus
iTrader: (1)
 
Phil's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Staffordshire, UK
Posts: 8,663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I should be able to get you some details tomorrow Mike. Will fire off an email now!
Old 01-12-2004, 04:49 PM
  #7  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Yep, they were one of the first I tried . Beginning to realise why it is usually made in Holland, no-one does this heat-treated 35mm thick plate in the UK, and I can't find a global supplier on google either .

Trending Topics

Old 01-12-2004, 04:50 PM
  #8  
justin.e
Advanced PassionFord User
 
justin.e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,612
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mike,
try Rob they store lots of IPA and other dangerous crap where he works the funny thing is he's on the safety team
Old 01-12-2004, 04:58 PM
  #9  
Disabled Account
Banned
 
Disabled Account's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,078
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by justin.e
Mike,
try Rob they store lots of IPA and other dangerous crap where he works the funny thing is he's on the safety team
Justin, I would think that the only thing dangerous about LF60 steel plate 35mm thick is if a sheet of the damn stuff fell on you
Old 01-12-2004, 04:59 PM
  #10  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Cheers Phil .
Old 01-12-2004, 05:03 PM
  #11  
justin.e
Advanced PassionFord User
 
justin.e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,612
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Doug,
you dont keep 100's of 1000's of litres of Toluene and Isopropanol in buckets
Old 01-12-2004, 05:05 PM
  #12  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Justin, I thought they had moved from plastic to metal buckets in Ireland?
Old 01-12-2004, 05:16 PM
  #13  
justin.e
Advanced PassionFord User
 
justin.e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,612
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hell no...we found that the metal one's made too much noise when wore on our feet
Old 01-12-2004, 06:15 PM
  #14  
Lee @ Fusion
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Lee @ Fusion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Workin on the car , or workin the missus
Posts: 2,442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

go on then Mike , what is LF60 ???

I presume that its a steel exceptionally resistant to corrosives ???

try UKF stainless , bassed in brum , may have no isea what u want bit i find that they have all the odd , wiered and wonderfull stuff thet i need for jobs

01527 578687 speek to Simon or dave smith
Old 01-12-2004, 06:32 PM
  #15  
Paul Eggleton
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Paul Eggleton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Saving the planet
Posts: 5,749
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Might be able to dig some contacts out from our peeps tomorrow Mike if yoiu're still stuck
Old 02-12-2004, 08:56 AM
  #16  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Still can't find any plate, but managed to find a 20" sch 120 (39mm wall thickness) piece of LF60 tube (there is only one 6.9m length in the whole of the country and it is a mere Ł1,650 + VAT per metre ), but as this is going to be a saddle it is the wrong radius . Back to searching for some plate (to be pressed - as it is too thick to roll) . LF60 is actually a heat treat flange material (quenched and tempered), but as this is going to the petrochem industry in Nigeria, the saddle has to be made of a similar spec material.
Old 02-12-2004, 09:38 AM
  #17  
churchy
Advanced PassionFord User
 
churchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Out Shooting Burgelers, cause thats what Norfolk people do!!!
Posts: 2,454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mike, try Anglia Alloys on 01493 651028, and Middleton Heat Treatments on 01502 561721. Could you get some standard plate heat treated to the same spec?
Old 02-12-2004, 09:44 AM
  #18  
TILLIO
Advanced PassionFord User
 
TILLIO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: IPSWICH
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Crikey mike, what ya buildin??

Nuclear Bunker?

or a chastity belt to keep you safe from Dom?
Old 02-12-2004, 09:48 AM
  #19  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Churchy, no it has to be of this exact spec material, hence the problems . The lengths I go to to keep Dom at bay .
Old 02-12-2004, 10:04 AM
  #20  
dangerous - reyland
Advanced PassionFord User
 
dangerous - reyland's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mike
Called my pal in the steel industry who supplies to petrol sites etc

He suggested ASD Randall Steels on 0121 520 1231

Worth a try i guess
Old 02-12-2004, 10:06 AM
  #21  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Thanks .
Old 02-12-2004, 10:09 AM
  #22  
Porkie
20K+ Super Poster.
iTrader: (1)
 
Porkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Essex... and Birmingham!
Posts: 21,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I bet Martin could get you that Mike. He was telling me about some bloke he knows the other day...
Old 02-12-2004, 10:16 AM
  #23  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

You mean the one that does his special thing on your special thing on your special car that comes from a country far, far away?

If yes, you have to realise that the two pieces of flat that I want will weigh half a ton EACH - can you imagine the carriage from there? .
Old 02-12-2004, 10:30 AM
  #24  
churchy
Advanced PassionFord User
 
churchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Out Shooting Burgelers, cause thats what Norfolk people do!!!
Posts: 2,454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mike I went out and spoke to a supplier of the offshore ind. They stock LT60, but aren't too sure of LF60 , do ya mean LF60.
Old 02-12-2004, 10:43 AM
  #25  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Mike,
Yes I definitely need it to be LF60 (which is the material type the flanges are made out of - 10" 1500lb RTJ/long weld neck sch 140 - mat LF60 (quenched and tempered)). I think you will find that LT60 will be a different grade, as we have already been offered some LX60, which isn't the correct spec either.
Old 02-12-2004, 10:48 AM
  #26  
churchy
Advanced PassionFord User
 
churchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Out Shooting Burgelers, cause thats what Norfolk people do!!!
Posts: 2,454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Old 02-12-2004, 10:51 AM
  #27  
Fozy
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Fozy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Tearing up the tarmac.....somewhere!
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

PM what your making and i'll have a word with my material supplier to see if there is any other material you could use as they make everything you could ask for out of metal.
Old 02-12-2004, 11:02 AM
  #28  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Fozy,
We are quoting to make a saddle for a pipe to enable the a tee to be cut into it without cutting the pipe apart. I just need to source some 35mm thick LT60 (or equivalent, as this is a flange material spec). It isn't subject to particularly high pressures (only 190 bar max, but has to be tested to 285 bar), but due to it's application (oil & gas industry), it must be of this type material.
Old 02-12-2004, 11:04 AM
  #29  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

If I can't find an equivalent spec to LF60, I "may" be able to use P 355 NL1 EN10028-2 as per DIN 17102 with EN 10204-3.1.B certificate (material equivalent to ASTM A 537 class 1) or equivalent.
Old 02-12-2004, 11:31 AM
  #30  
keithG666
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
keithG666's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: beds
Posts: 4,105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

whats a saddle?
Old 02-12-2004, 11:33 AM
  #31  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Goes on a horse .
Old 02-12-2004, 11:40 AM
  #32  
TILLIO
Advanced PassionFord User
 
TILLIO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: IPSWICH
Posts: 2,399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

whats a saddle?
Que keith thinkn of puttin it on his house mates for "a proper ride around the house"

Old 02-12-2004, 12:20 PM
  #33  
Phil
Jeebus
iTrader: (1)
 
Phil's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Staffordshire, UK
Posts: 8,663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mike, try these. Not 100% sure that they have it but they are worth a try.

Steel Express Ltd
Unit 1
Berkshire Crescent
The Woods Estate
Wednesbury
WS10 0SS
Tel 0121 502 6366

If not look in Kellys and get ringing!
Old 02-12-2004, 12:39 PM
  #34  
Fozy
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Fozy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Tearing up the tarmac.....somewhere!
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

mail sent mate which i included you on. I also sent a txt.

Will let you know th out come mate.

Cheers
Old 02-12-2004, 12:48 PM
  #35  
Mike Rainbird
Caraholic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Mike Rainbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Norwich
Posts: 26,403
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Many thanks - it also looks as though will have to go down the "alternative" route .
Old 02-12-2004, 02:51 PM
  #36  
keithG666
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
keithG666's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: beds
Posts: 4,105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TILLIO
whats a saddle?
Que keith thinkn of puttin it on his house mates for "a proper ride around the house"

Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wowk
General Car Related Discussion.
4
30-03-2021 07:49 PM
20/20 vision
Cars & Parts Wanted.
1
29-09-2015 09:25 PM
PRO-LINE MOTORSPORT
General Car Related Discussion.
5
28-09-2015 09:54 PM



Quick Reply: Off topic help required - petrochemical industry specialists



All times are GMT. The time now is 02:58 AM.