possibly the worst rs500
02-03-2009, 09:04 PM
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i used to work for a rs breakers and we went to look at one in glouster in black it had been in the blokes garden 4 years and never moved some of u may have seen it on here bout 2 years ago parked next to a wall and covered in tree sap only had one owner
i had to walk away cos i felt like slappin the bloke some people just dont no perfection when thay see it
i had to walk away cos i felt like slappin the bloke some people just dont no perfection when thay see it
02-03-2009, 09:11 PM
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found this in a garage near to me. its a local car & has been sitting in someones garden for over ten years. the owner has now decided he wants it rebuilt & restored, so he has taken the car to people who dont know anything about cosworths let alone rs500's
the pictures dont really do it justice, it really is much worse in real life. every panel is either rotten, dented or both. there's not much floor left. rear chassis rails are just crumbling away in your hands & floor to sill both sides are non existant. dont know haw someone let a car of this value get this bad. people have been knocking on his door for years trying to buy it off him but he just wont sell it. i rember him taking his daughter to school in it when i was at school (13 years ago) & it was always caked in shit & neglected then. good luck to them rebuilding it, there gonna need it
the pictures dont really do it justice, it really is much worse in real life. every panel is either rotten, dented or both. there's not much floor left. rear chassis rails are just crumbling away in your hands & floor to sill both sides are non existant. dont know haw someone let a car of this value get this bad. people have been knocking on his door for years trying to buy it off him but he just wont sell it. i rember him taking his daughter to school in it when i was at school (13 years ago) & it was always caked in shit & neglected then. good luck to them rebuilding it, there gonna need it
people have been knocking on his door for years trying to buy it off him but he just wont sell it.
i had it once with a bloke with two mk2 escort harriers, one fooked and one not too bad, i offered him £800 (6 years ago) for the good shell and the running gear to build one up. they'd been on his drive since roughly 1990 cos i remember them from primary school and he basically laughed at me. less than 6 months later they were scrapped.
02-03-2009, 09:30 PM
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So what do you think a car like that would be worth Paul ?
Also do you know of many 500's for sale?
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02-03-2009, 09:52 PM
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You can find new shells for 2 / 3 k mate
and with regards reshelled cars , i would rather have a reshelled 500 than a welded floors etc car, and to be honest what is the difference between a car thats stripped to a bare shell and restored then rebuilt , to one that is stripped to a bare shell then rebuilt into a brand new shell ?
Both cars have been totaly stripped and rebuilt , just one into a welded restored shell the other into a brand new shell
Its a no brainer IMO ,
and with regards reshelled cars , i would rather have a reshelled 500 than a welded floors etc car, and to be honest what is the difference between a car thats stripped to a bare shell and restored then rebuilt , to one that is stripped to a bare shell then rebuilt into a brand new shell ?
Both cars have been totaly stripped and rebuilt , just one into a welded restored shell the other into a brand new shell
Its a no brainer IMO ,
Your correct what you are saying as alot of famous historic rally cars mk1s an 2s have been reshelled 3/4 times and still sell for 100k plus just because who drove the car,with that number plate and id on it that people regognise,although they didnt actually drive the one that gets sold as it probably rebuilt so many times
02-03-2009, 10:42 PM
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02-03-2009, 11:21 PM
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that owner needs the v5 ripping out of his hands. the guy i bought my car from, his next door neighbor has a white 3dr and it is green at the mo. it has not been washed for years and will end up like this one if its owner is not carful. i will quietly try and get some photo's on here as i am visiting my cars old owner some time this week. oh yeah and the guy wont sell it either.
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03-03-2009, 01:01 AM
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As sad as it seems,if the majority of RS500's were used daily from day one by any member of joe public,they would be in pretty much the same state(OK maybe not as bad,but pretty ropey!) today...as sad as is it seems!
I know all us RS enthusiasts think as these cars as some of the better models to grace the RS world,but fact is there were plenty of non RS fans that brought RS's back in the day. My neightbour had a new S1,3 door,RS500 and saphire..and they didn't know didley sqwat about its worth or shall we say importance back then!
These posts bring back the reality of the RS brand to me,fast cars which joe public can afford to buy and out perform many a dearer sports car at the same time!!
Still a shame though...and i'm sure its the same for it's owner...but hindsight and all that!!
I know all us RS enthusiasts think as these cars as some of the better models to grace the RS world,but fact is there were plenty of non RS fans that brought RS's back in the day. My neightbour had a new S1,3 door,RS500 and saphire..and they didn't know didley sqwat about its worth or shall we say importance back then!
These posts bring back the reality of the RS brand to me,fast cars which joe public can afford to buy and out perform many a dearer sports car at the same time!!
Still a shame though...and i'm sure its the same for it's owner...but hindsight and all that!!
Very few people will buy a car new, join the owners club with a few days, lock it away over winter etc etc.
03-03-2009, 07:31 AM
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The value depends on a lot of things mate
The shell is probs the most un"important as this can either be restored or replaced with new
The important thing is if it still has all the "correct" 500 parts still either fitted or in the boot
Its the parts and the ID and history that matters if im honest as most people either repaint or restore these cars anyway and to be honest the worse they are the more people want them as they see it as a sort of challange to bring cars like this back to life , plus its great to see these cars photo albums when the car is complete , what a great talking point this makes when you see them under the cars bonnet and you look through and are quite amazed at what they have done
You need to see this sort of car to put a price on it
03-03-2009, 07:49 AM
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i was after a blue on 2 years ago but couldnt finance it due to starting my own business but i think next year ill be finding the now owner and pleading me case lol
its a restored one to but dont bother me at all it was 480 bhp and sat on rl7s whitch id change but other than that it was perfect
its a restored one to but dont bother me at all it was 480 bhp and sat on rl7s whitch id change but other than that it was perfect
03-03-2009, 11:25 PM
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heres the picture of the cossie. sorry not a rs500 but on the same subject.
the rain tonight washed off most of the tree sap and shite that was on it but still!!
the rain tonight washed off most of the tree sap and shite that was on it but still!!
19-06-2009, 04:02 PM
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well the engine parts are still at the garage where the engine was taken out but the guy doesnt want to spend the money thats required to get it rebuilt. also i heard that he is no going to try to do the work himself. another one bites the dust i guess
clutch looks ok though 
27-06-2009, 06:25 PM
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That sort of thing I love and I think good on em. One of my customers runs a business restoring rare cars just like this just for fun, he doesn't make any profit out of the resto, but does make a profit on when they come back to have it serviced and looked after. He can also store them too and charges the rent for it, keeps em in showroom nick too.
I thinks its a great project, and ultimately, a labour of love rather than anything to make money out of. At least the owner wants to give it a go to sort it.
I thinks its a great project, and ultimately, a labour of love rather than anything to make money out of. At least the owner wants to give it a go to sort it.
23-11-2009, 08:53 PM
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I do own a reshelled 500 as it happens , and also one that hasnt , and i honestly dont care either way as there both great cars
I would however tell anyone should i sell my white 500 that it has been reshelled early in its life .
The reshelled car is HPI clear and was reshelled by a big name in the cosworth game ( infact probs one of the top 3 names from the good old days of the race years of the 500 ) and the quality is superb that i would bet 99% of people looking wouldnt know and to be honest probs wouldnt care
but i would still let any buyer know and they then could decide based on how they feel
Having said that it isnt for sale anyway
I would however tell anyone should i sell my white 500 that it has been reshelled early in its life .
The reshelled car is HPI clear and was reshelled by a big name in the cosworth game ( infact probs one of the top 3 names from the good old days of the race years of the 500 ) and the quality is superb that i would bet 99% of people looking wouldnt know and to be honest probs wouldnt care
but i would still let any buyer know and they then could decide based on how they feel Having said that it isnt for sale anyway
23-11-2009, 09:03 PM
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23-11-2009, 10:09 PM
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I'm a competent welder and right out of school I worked in a body shop. I know how to bring these back from the dead. I bought a saff (see LHD resto thread) and the amount of rot on my Saff now that I've hit it with a hammer and REALLy gotten under it troubles me. I'm committed, I'd started on it and BOUGHT it so I'm into it. If I had known the extent of the rot I'd have saved my cash.
Call this owner a tosser or what have you but he might just be a bloke who had it, hit hard times and vowed to NEVEr let it go and did his best to keep it (bad storage choices sadly).
Looking at this car, the experience I've had with my saff resto i can see that this car is indeed worth saving if the person whodoes it does it properly and writes a cheque with the intent of keeping it forever. Or if the person can do most of the ugly stuff themselves. Cars that are welded on are fine. Every car has welding and every car has filler on it. If done right a welded car will outlast one with no welding and be stronger.
At the end of the day it's an RS500. Should be treated as such.
Call this owner a tosser or what have you but he might just be a bloke who had it, hit hard times and vowed to NEVEr let it go and did his best to keep it (bad storage choices sadly).
Looking at this car, the experience I've had with my saff resto i can see that this car is indeed worth saving if the person whodoes it does it properly and writes a cheque with the intent of keeping it forever. Or if the person can do most of the ugly stuff themselves. Cars that are welded on are fine. Every car has welding and every car has filler on it. If done right a welded car will outlast one with no welding and be stronger.
At the end of the day it's an RS500. Should be treated as such.
