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Old 25-02-2009, 07:50 PM
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Default Focus RS vs BMW 135i vs EVO FQ300

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Old 25-02-2009, 08:05 PM
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awesome
Old 25-02-2009, 08:06 PM
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Another glowing review of the new RS.
they are all saying exactly what RS enthusiasts want to hear

agressive. fast, good noise. lol

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Old 25-02-2009, 08:14 PM
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I want one!
Old 25-02-2009, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pee vee
Another glowing review of the new RS.
they are all saying exactly what RS enthusiasts want to hear

agressive. fast, good noise. lol
then jeremy clarksons gonna say what they dont, cheap chavvy and crap! haha.
im impressed with it tbh, the evo looks crap next to it
Old 25-02-2009, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by petey.
then jeremy clarksons gonna say what they dont, cheap chavvy and crap! haha.
im impressed with it tbh, the evo looks crap next to it

Generally Clarkson likes Ford products, Small feisty hatches, VW Golfs and supercars/super saloons

He didn't slag the ST off a few years back either.

ETA: From that video I'd have the 135 but make it a bit more edgy. LSD, Stiffen it up. But the FRS would be a close 2nd. Mitsi/Impreza's just bore me now.

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Clarkson will love it im sure!
he loved the ST. as long as they give him a nice sensible blue or white one, he cant say too much LOL

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Old 25-02-2009, 08:32 PM
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Superb the more i see it the more i want it
Old 25-02-2009, 08:46 PM
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i've read Clarksons review and he loves it,although he does mention the chav thing
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
Generally Clarkson likes Ford products, Small feisty hatches, VW Golfs and supercars/super saloons

He didn't slag the ST off a few years back either.

ETA: From that video I'd have the 135 but make it a bit more edgy. LSD, Stiffen it up. But the FRS would be a close 2nd. Mitsi/Impreza's just bore me now.

i must say that BMW sounded amazing compared to the other two....but BMW do know how to make a good engine!,,,saying that,i'd have the RS before the other 2...its the RS thing is in my blood!

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the 3.0 twin turbo BMW lump does sound the bollox.
Old 25-02-2009, 09:12 PM
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cant wait to see this focus when it hits the roads
Old 25-02-2009, 09:26 PM
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carnt believe how good the rs sounds,, wonder wat tuning packages will be out 4 them, have they forged that engine then?
Old 25-02-2009, 09:41 PM
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Nice little road test

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Cool vid

Clarkson will love it im sure..

I want one!!!!!

Old 25-02-2009, 10:14 PM
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good video, the rs looks great.
that beemer jounalist's shirt and cardigan!!
Old 25-02-2009, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by alanfordtw-15
good video, the rs looks great.
that beemer jounalist's shirt and cardigan!!
Owen Ready...had to look twice as I thought it said 'Oven Ready'
Old 25-02-2009, 10:35 PM
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what sort of power do them 335 beemers knock out? surely with a remap and a few decent choice mods you'd be on par with an m3 of quicker?
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Performance Max speed 155 miles/h (250 km/h) 0-100 km/h 5.3 seconds 0-160 km/h 11.7 seconds 0-200 km/h 18.8 seconds 0-300 km/h - Quarter mile 13.3s 105.6mph seconds 0-100-0 mph - Engine Power 225 kw (302hp / 306 ps) Torque 407 Nm (300 Lb-Ft) Displacement 3.0 liters Engine type Inline 6, Twin Turbo, 24v Engine location front
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what do people think would happen then, FRS vs an FQ300 on the ring??
Old 25-02-2009, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
Performance Max speed 155 miles/h (250 km/h) 0-100 km/h 5.3 seconds 0-160 km/h 11.7 seconds 0-200 km/h 18.8 seconds 0-300 km/h - Quarter mile 13.3s 105.6mph seconds 0-100-0 mph - Engine Power 225 kw (302hp / 306 ps) Torque 407 Nm (300 Lb-Ft) Displacement 3.0 liters Engine type Inline 6, Twin Turbo, 24v Engine location front
Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't the new RS roughly 300bhp and 310ft.lbs torque which is more than the BMW?!?! I suppose the BMW will probably have this over the majority of the rev range.
Old 25-02-2009, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pani_k
Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't the new RS roughly 300bhp and 310ft.lbs torque which is more than the BMW?!?! I suppose the BMW will probably have this over the majority of the rev range.

from the figures above i would have thought the bmw had more bhp by 2 but whats your point as im lost lolol
Old 25-02-2009, 10:54 PM
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good road test!!!when will it be on top gear then,does anyone know??
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the bimmer has 400 ft.lbs the RS is 300 so i gues teh bim would have the edge
Old 25-02-2009, 10:57 PM
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From above the torque and power don't differ much. My point being the BMW having the bigger engine and double the turbos to produce the same power output.
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100ft.lb is quite a lot isnt?i guess is would loose more thru the box and diff then a FWD car?just a guess mind,sounded nice tho
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kool car, good review
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Originally Posted by orion_crazy_carl
the bimmer has 400 ft.lbs the RS is 300 so i gues teh bim would have the edge

thought they both had around the same?
Old 25-02-2009, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
thought they both had around the same?
I thought that too when I looked at your figures.
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The engine in the 335i and 135i is a belter... IIRC there are tuning packages which unlock 400bhp without too much hassle, cooler change, full exhaust, filter and a custom remap.

Plus, the 135i comes with some tasty looking brakes (6-pots?) as standard and I'm sure I read somewhere that its got a more lively diff in it over the 3-series which allows a bit more sideways action than other new Bimmas.


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beemer looks mental but RS does it for me,cant wait to see them on the road
Old 26-02-2009, 07:09 AM
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Expect Clarkson to to have 1 smokin

Love the sound of the RS tho, Beemer is nice but looks to bland.
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I wouldnt say no to either 3 but the new focus rs does look gd
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isnt the 135i a lot more expensive though?
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Standard I would take the RS, and probably the same if just talking mild tuning, but if modifying it properly then I would take the 135i, as the chassis can cope with double the power and I dont reckon the Focus will, due to being fairly heavy and FWD, too much intertia for the amount of grip available IMHO
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I want to know why i'm sitting here thinking how i can afford a Focus RS


Wonder what deprection will be like in the first year.....

Though i have said im going to get 335 in a years time
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
The engine in the 335i and 135i is a belter... IIRC there are tuning packages which unlock 400bhp without too much hassle, cooler change, full exhaust, filter and a custom remap.

Plus, the 135i comes with some tasty looking brakes (6-pots?) as standard and I'm sure I read somewhere that its got a more lively diff in it over the 3-series which allows a bit more sideways action than other new Bimmas.


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You can get 400bhp out of a 335i with just a plug in tuning module.

My friends with that and exhaust made 424bhp.
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Focus is a mint car and they've done well considering its 2wd, but prices will drop just like the current FRS. Shame really


True RS is followed by the name ''COSWORTH''
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Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
You can get 400bhp out of a 335i with just a plug in tuning module.

My friends with that and exhaust made 424bhp and I still whooped him down the quarter mile in my diesel auto.
coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Originally Posted by bigpower
Focus is a mint car and they've done well considering its 2wd, but prices will drop just like the current FRS. Shame really


True RS is followed by the name ''COSWORTH''
So you dont like the
RS1800i
RS200

Or any of that other stuff then?

Crikey, tough crowd!


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