B13 JUS

iTrader: (24)

a friend of mine is putting a gsxr1000 engine into the back of a mini. just woundering if anyone has been in a car with a bike engine...
what would a 370-380bhp cossy do with it.

wirralphil

years back in Class 7 Auto grass some fella had a space framed mk3 fiesta with a GSXR1000 engine in the back kept up well with the 280bhp rear engined Mk3 my mates dad had.

Graceland

Bike engines, as good and powerful as they are suffer from the lack of torque - they need to be worked hard in a small car to get the most out of them.

But on the flip side, they are a scream, I've driven a Bike Engined Kit Car and it was immence, had a 1300 hyabusa engine in and went like absolute stink BUT the downside was the sheer noise of the engine screaming its bollocks off all the time but it did beg to be screwed hard all the time

wirralphil

Or do a car with a bike engine and a turbo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvm5HbjfSYw

B13 JUS

iTrader: (24)

my mate seens to think i have no chance with my cossy against this mini.

Graceland

Or do a gokart with a GSXR engine

luke_rsfesta

ive been in a hyabusa turbo mini,it was the most awesome thing ive ever been in,unreal power.anything it came up against it killed,it was doing 12sec 1/4miles, scoobys evos m3s cossies it was doin em all. cnt beat anything like that

Garage19

Or even better, a spacee frame chevette with a turbocharged bike engine!

Something i've been working on with a friend.

http://forums.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=131775

john

You probably wont IMO if the mini is stripped out etc.

I've been in a R1 powered bondug and that was quick, also been in a turbo'd hyasbussa bondug and thast thing was just mental, had to lean forward to stop the front wheel coming up.

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

There is a "mini r1" kicking about aberdeen just now. looks great and sounds the bollocks!!!

graham c

iTrader: (5)

their woz a few at the rs day at corft the other year, they were doing out round the twisty,s but on the straight,s they were getting passed as they have no torque, and their woz a 4x4 wesfield cossie powerd one their 2 !

CraigJ

All depends on the weight of the car, Needs to be as light as possible for a good result. Im building a kitcar that has a zx10 motor, should be good for 140bhp when done but will weight less than 400kgs.


Currently in bits again at the moment as im redoing all the engine mounts and building a new chain diff (lsd).

foreigneRS

that looks very interesting doug

bike engined kit cars that i was looking at a while ago

http://www.sdrsportscars.co.uk/home.html

2224v

Í've been involved with a Smart roadster fitted with a GSXR1000 engine and although I have no idea on performance figures but it was a scream to drive!
Quick enough and with a soundtrack to die for.
Pulling away swiftly is no bother but you need proper clutchcontrol.

foreigneRS

can't understand about people saying that bike engines have no torque. look at a car engine of a similar size, e.g. vauxhall agila 1000c - maximum torque 66 lb.ft, max power 64 bhp. they're not exactly fast, but a standard 1000cc bike engine is going to be a hell of a lot quicker than that with similar torque but double the power

hicost

Couple of vids I did earlier

http://www.guildofmotorendurance.co.uk/video/jon.wmv

http://www.guildofmotorendurance.co.uk/video/carver.wmv

alistairolsen

look at a 150bhp car engine and itll have about 150ftlbs and do 6800

150bhp bike endine will have 70-80ftlbs and do 14k

The lack of torque is overplayed by a lot of folk, if you gearthem both correctly then its not too much of an issue.

Bike engine tend to be fairly peaky tho, so they willalways feel more like driving a tuned crossflow than a pinto or whatever example you want to pick.

Bottom line is he will have about 150bhp in a 500kg mini so 300 per tonne and you will have 380bhp in a 1300kg car. Wont be far away

jameswrx

Surely a mini is a bit heavy for a 1000cc bike engine?

I've ridden a few modern 1000cc sports bikes and they are missiles but put someone on the back and it takes the edge off the performance.. it's gotta be a bit of a slug in a mini surely?

Granted a turbo'd hayabusa would be a different story but I can't imagine a gsxr 1k engine in a mini is going to set the world on fire!

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

Ive seen a mini pick up with the engine in the back.It was at fins and chrome show in stockton/north east last year.

g1234

my mates doing a chink with a blackbird in front and cossie rear axel so rear wheel drive looks mint and currently looking for a supercharger for it he in class 7 autograss and his car has a shevvy v8 in

Garage19

Thanks Nick.

For people that are worried about torque... the 30 year old 1256cc engine we pulled out was gutless. I doubt it made 50 bhp and naff all torque to match. New turbo R1 will have 140f/lb torque.