Diamonds.

iTrader: (2)

yes i know can of worms when it comes to this one but found this CCTV footage on youtube.

now it says you cant see the plane cause obviously its from the other side etc etc. BUT at about 46 secs if you watch it and play it again is that or is that not the top of a aeroplanes tail going across before the explosion? have to watch it a few times to see what i mean. see what you think i know Graham will have his view.
i used to think it was all a conspiracy thing but too many thing have a simple answer that what is hard to believe sometimes and the dude from loose change when got told this reason came out with a stutter and got annoyed which a lot of his "evidence" becomes crap.
though i must admit US government do no favours by with holding information/footage.

see what you think on this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWiZ...eature=related

Twellsie

iTrader: (1)

no idea what you are seeing dude

pacwest

400 mph vs 4 frames per second. Math aint that hard.

4 planes crashed. Not too much you can say about that. I've been to 2 of the impact sites. Shit happened. Next.

Pardeep

Yeah it was bullshit that a plane hit it. The gap between the walls was 16ft and we all know a plane is wider than 16ft. There is a documentary of this 9/11 stuff where some kids did a project based on facts. With all their findings, its obvious the American Government Screwed the Americans.

I'll dig it out for you over the weekend.

Diamonds.

iTrader: (2)

if you look at the bit highlighted of the building and see the explosion then look to the left (still in the highlighted bit) and you can see a streak go across before he explosion. i think its a plane tail more than anything else.

e30cossie

Did not see f~:@ all in that video. Good luck with your research.

Diamonds.

iTrader: (2)

ill look again when im sober too cry:

Benni

I've watched them all and as much as I like to say it's all a load of bollocks, some does make you wonder.

RichieST

iTrader: (2)

I await Graham S1's reply

It's Czech Mate

It was Elvis streaking across the screen eating a really hot burger

DanW@FastFord

iTrader: (1)

'Loose Change' was utter bullshit! A great piece of film making but virtually all his source material was flawed in some way or other.

As if the Pentagon would 'pretend' a plane crashed into the building!!!!

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

Its hard to belive a plane hit it cause where was all the remains of the plane and surely the hole would of been bigger too.Alot of people dont belive it all was set up by the goverment but there is alot of facts out there to say it was.It makes me laugh when they say they found the passport of one of the highjackers that hit the twin towers on the floor.How can a passport survive a plane crash burning fuel and servive not getting crushed in all the rubble.I look at this with an open mind.Alot of people belive it was a set up and alot dont.

danneth

so where is the footage of the plane hitting, wake up im sure mr blunkett would have seen a fooking plane flying into the pentagon not really something you would need to be squinting to try and see,

dont care what other people think IMO it was down to the goverment

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

same way my ebgames card survived my buring car for 20 odd mins

Fiddy

A pilot with limited expierance of flying, flying a jumbo 8 ft off the floor at 400mph, makes you think doesnt it

timrud

What gets me is there are loads of videos taken by random people in the street who just happened to have cameras with them of the WTC hits.

Yet there are none of the pentagon, which is in a populated area. Odd

Deffo an inside job.

Rich_w

He only had to hit the building, not do a textbook landing

In a world where the President getting a blowjob from an Intern is spread around every country before Dinner. You really think a conspiracy of this magnitude could be covered up for 7 years?


Muppets

danneth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9Bo...75FF17&index=6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xca6o38ZNY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jithu...75FF17&index=8


deary me,

danneth

president getting a blowjob was not getting all his top dogs, different jobs and money though was it and i could be wrong but wasn't it a different president

fuzzy

why would the american government set it up in the first place? theres surely easier ways to achieve whatever they might have been trying to cover up that blowing up their own HQ?

Fiddy

Must be easy flying at 400mph at 8ft off the ground then is it ? silly me

TurboShed

It's a matter of national security, of course they don't give out all their CCTV from the Pentagon.

Rich_w

You're an Idiot!

The Pilot was "lucky" Pentagon is a big sodding building. I bet the aim was to get right in the middle, but he screwed it up. If he'd been a few feet lower he would have hit the ground first. Higher and he may have missed it. At the WTC, 2nd plane came in at a near 45 degree angle, hardly "textbook"

It's not like he flew for 20 mins at 8 foot off the deck is it. Fuck me, I bet very few pilots could manage that. Consistently. And of course, all those witnesses on the freeway next to the Pentagon "imagined" a plane coming in very low, hitting lamp posts. (or maybe they were Agents)

No wonder you believe all the conspiracy bollocks. You have the Iq of a tortoise

Fiddy

Im an idiot ?, for finding it hard to believe that a very average pilot, who has never flown a plane that size, has the ability to control the plane at 400mph, at 8ft from the ground, and do exactly what he intended. if he has plane control like that, first time at the controls, he should have took a career as an airline pilot, because he's naturally gifted. an airline pilot who has flown said plane, for over 20 years, and has logged hundreds of hours flight time in one, said he couldnt even do it, but maybe he's an idiot aswell

fuzzy

im no pilot but as the plane was up and going when they took over all they needed to do was carry on and steer it in the required direction toward the target? the training on simulators would have taught them that much id guess?
pilots cant be that smart...look at those 2 that crashed together the other week with nothing else in the sky for miles around....

Fiddy

That could be TCAS though fella, there has been a few mid air collisions over the years because the pilot has trusted TCAS over his own judgment.

danneth

by the sounds of it there was a few benefits to different people, but i must say the guy who decided to change the insurance policy looks like he came off best put 15m in and got 7bn back

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

with the pentagon one , i remember seeing a pic of just a hole in the side of the building

no wing holes just a circle like a missle hit it

if the plane had crashed there why wasnt there any plane engines or plane debris round on the grass etc

fuzzy

ive not really looked into in but im gussing that if they were setting it up theyed at least make the damage consistent with a plane actually hitting?

fuzzy

7bn? it was a 3 or 4 storey building iirc not as high as the moon

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

I agree with you mate.Since the twin towers was full of asbestos.It would of cost a fortune to remove it all.He got a massive pay out.

fuzzy

your talking about the twin towers? i thought you meant the pentagon.
your saying that they set up 2 jets to crash into the twin towers ,killing thousands , because there was asbestos in the building?

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

Everyone is entitled to there opinion mate just cause we belive in some things doesnt mean to say we are nutters.

fuzzy

no arguement about having differing opinions but seriously believing that was a set up to get asbestos removed from a building is plain silly imo.

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

Im only going on what clips ive seen in you tube mate.

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

I bet Viper could!



"Gentlemen, the hard deck for this hop is 8ft. The hard deck is there for YOUR safety - do NOT break it"

danneth

no not just cause of that mate, thats one of many reasons why would someone buy a lease to a building for 15m when he knows it needs at least 1bn spending on it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFqYf...5FF17&index=17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5JVY...5FF17&index=13

fuzzy

1 billion to remove asbestos? you could demolish and rebuild for less than that.and when you lease a building isnt the landlord/owner usually responsible for maintainance?

Dre.1983

It actually cost him money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXND...e=channel_page

burnzy

lol you honestly think it would cost less than 1bn to demolish the twin towers and rebuild them, a billion is swallowed up so easily nowadays, think how big they are and having to move the asbestos with all the US health and saftey honestly your billion wouldn't go no where and it would takea good few years to finnish it off

but as far as it being set up well it does sound far fetched but then again 7 billion could make you do silly things aswell